Can Postdoc here apply for CES

[boven2012]

What is written in your job offer? In mine, it is written that I am offered PDF position. So I thought that if I apply under different NOC, they might think that I have switched to different job duties, not the ones which are described under 4011. Since I've seen people on this forum applying under different NOC, this also seems acceptable.

No I don’t have any NOC written on my job offer. I have a post graduate open work permit. And offer letter says that the position is a "postdoctoral fellow" position.

 

[boven2012]

I think it may depend on the type of funding. For example, if the project is industrial-based, you may receive T4, if it is funded NSERC, you may receive T4A. But this is just mine speculation.

yes, you're write NSERC issues T4As

I just checked with an Canada Visa. Com people and they said as long as its not a self-employment T4A is fine to get PR under CEC. Lets hope for the best

 

[saruyashi]

yes, you're write NSERC issues T4As

I just checked with an Canada Visa. Com people and they said as long as its not a self-employment T4A is fine to get PR under CEC. Lets hope for the best

Hi,
My Job offer letter and work permit clearly says I am "Postdocroral Fellow" and i am getting T4A. I choose NOC 4011. I don't know how people choose different NOC's. Although everyone have different majors and different duties (its depends on the University), our job tittle is Postdoctoral fellow, which is clearly mentioned in NOC 4011.

 

[saruyashi]

What is written in your job offer? In mine, it is written that I am offered PDF position. So I thought that if I apply under different NOC, they might think that I have switched to different job duties, not the ones which are described under 4011. Since I've seen people on this forum applying under different NOC, this also seems acceptable.

Hi Tulip,
In which NOC you applied CEC and when you applied?

 

[boven2012]

Hi Tulip,
In which NOC you applied CEC and when you applied?

he used 4011

 

[saruyashi]

he used 4011

Hope for the best for everyone.
I don't want to think about it any more. Just wait, to see what's going to happen.

 

[Cos]

Hi Guys,

We had this discussion 1 year ago and many conflicting suggestions as well, see link: (http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t92945.0.html).

To answer the question simply - YES, a postdoc is qualified to apply under CEC with T4As. I did receive T4As and have successfully become a PR.

Regarding NOC, CIC suggests that postdocs chose an NOC representative of their educational qualification (of course that works if your research is in sync with your degrees). You can of course use any NOC that best describes the work experience you are claiming.

I hope this puts daylight to the questions and confusing comments regarding postdocs and T4As. Universities define their use of T4 or T4A for postdocs, depending on the source of funding and as most postdocs have already noted, you also pay the full tax regardless of T4 or T4As.

This must not be confused with self-employment T4A

 

[saruyashi]

Hi Guys,

We had this discussion 1 year ago and many conflicting suggestions as well, see link: (http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t92945.0.html).

To answer the question simply - YES, a postdoc is qualified to apply under CEC with T4As. I did receive T4As and have successfully become a PR.

Regarding NOC, CIC suggests that postdocs chose an NOC representative of their educational qualification (of course that works if your research is in sync with your degrees). You can of course use any NOC that best describes the work experience you are claiming.

I hope this puts daylight to the questions and confusing comments regarding postdocs and T4As. Universities define their use of T4 or T4A for postdocs, depending on the source of funding and as most postdocs have already noted, you also pay the full tax regardless of T4 or T4As.

This must not be confused with self-employment T4A

I totally agreed. Especially "Our T4A must not be confused with self-employment T4A".

 

[boven2012]

Cos,
Thanks for sharing your experience in this regard.
lets hope for the best

 

[saruyashi]

Cos,
Thanks for sharing your experience in this regard.
lets hope for the best

See the below earlier post

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Re: T4 and T4A for postdocs
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2013, 02:48:29 am »
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Thanks Cos, I also called the CIC call services. They confirmed that:

-Postdoctoral fellowships count as employment
-T4 and T4A tax slips are both fine. It doesn't make a difference for the CEC application.

However, I advise you contact the call services yourself.
""""""""""""""

So we should be okay.

 

[tulip_001]

Thank you guys for clarifying this issue.

 

[jes_ON]

This must not be confused with self-employment T4A

It's not just a self-employment issue. Universities also issue T4As to students who receive scholarships/grants to support their studies (with no employment requirement). In those cases, students are not deemed "employees" of the university, even if they (for example) work in their supervisor's lab (it would be considered part of their study, rather than employment). This was a source of confusion in the past, before CIC changed the rules and eliminated the question.

I think in the case of a post-doc, the T4A should be accepted IF the university considers you an employee (not all do) and this is clearly indicated in your letter of employment. (You could also include a copy of your contract (if you have one) or post-doc appointment letter).

 

[saruyashi]

It's not just a self-employment issue. Universities also issue T4As to students who receive scholarships/grants to support their studies (with no employment requirement). In those cases, students are not deemed "employees" of the university, even if they (for example) work in their supervisor's lab (it would be considered part of their study, rather than employment). This was a source of confusion in the past, before CIC changed the rules and eliminated the question.

I think in the case of a post-doc, the T4A should be accepted IF the university considers you an employee (not all do) and this is clearly indicated in your letter of employment. (You could also include a copy of your contract (if you have one) or post-doc appointment letter).

If someone get T4A with study permit or course registered with University will be considered as Student. But all the post-docs are working under Work permit (I am sure, no one will be post-doc with study permit) and offer letter clearly contain those information. Also, students are not paying tax for their income mentioned in T4A, but post-docs do.
If all these informations will be understood by Visa officer, we are in safe side. But, if they didn't understand, Its really a trouble. Lets hope for the best.

 

[xihy06]

yes, you're write NSERC issues T4As

I just checked with an Canada Visa. Com people and they said as long as its not a self-employment T4A is fine to get PR under CEC. Lets hope for the best

Hey does anyone here receives T4As issued by NSERC?

I am a visiting fellow under NSERC and now working under a canadian governmental lab. As my offer was issued by NSERC and I work at a research institution, will there be any conflict between the offer and the reference letter from my supervisor? Definitely my supervisor can only use the institute's affiliation such as the letterhead and address. But my offer letter was written with an NSERC letterhead.

Can anyone throw some light on this? Thx a lot

 

[boven2012]

Hey does anyone here receives T4As issued by NSERC?

I am a visiting fellow under NSERC and now working under a canadian governmental lab. As my offer was issued by NSERC and I work at a research institution, will there be any conflict between the offer and the reference letter from my supervisor? Definitely my supervisor can only use the institute's affiliation such as the letterhead and address. But my offer letter was written with an NSERC letterhead.

Can anyone throw some light on this? Thx a lot

That depends on the source of your funding etc. I also receive T4A form NSERC and applied under CEC.

I don’t think there will be any conflict between NSERC offer letter and your boss Ref letter on a letterhead.

With regards to Ref letter from your boss can give it on his/her letterhead, it’s perfectly alright. Just make sure your boss puts in as many duties as you carry out routinely on your Ref letter, also number of hours (full time =40 hours) and annual salary.