jes_ON said:
Okay so in this scenario, most white collar entry level jobs (programmers, QAs, Web Designers, Accountants, Financial Analysts, Systems Analysts) have to have LMIA before they hire a student on PGWP?
Oh dear, NO! First - if you have a PGWP, you are no longer a student. Smiley
Second:
- if you have a PGWP, employers are not required to obtain an LMIA.
- Under EE, you are NOT required to have an LMIA.
- Under EE, you DO need an LMIA if you want points for "arranged employment."
So that means its difficult for students with PGWP to get a job after studying in Canada because employers have to go through LMIA.
No. Again, no LMIA is required to hire someone with a PGWP. However, if a PGWP-holder wants the extra points for having "arranged employment," then the employer does have to apply for an LMIA.
So in short if EE doesn't make provision for PGWP students then the whole Canadian Education System takes a hit.
Or, perhaps when international students come over to study engineering, they won't take jobs as cooks just to get PR.
EE doesn't eliminate opportunity for students. It does reduce the loophole, by discouraging people from taking the cheapest 2 year course imaginable just to get a PGWP as a simple path to PR. I imagine that colleges will eventually feel the pinch. I expect it might encourage students who want to study in high-demand skilled occupations, as they will continue to do well.
Exactly Jes_ON .... just what I've been trying to say.
It's ridiculous how easy it was for someone to immigrate to Canada even just a few short years ago. A cook could qualify as a skilled worker, as if cooking is a lost art among Canadian citizens and PRs.
Not is a cook not a skilled worker in the true sense of the word, but under the old system a cook could actually qualify to apply on his own under the Federal Skilled Worker Program, simply from his own work experience. No job offer, no employer sponorship, no LMIA needed.
Strange how a country with almost the same quality of life as the US had such an absurd immigration policy where pretty much anybody could get in. I'm glad that is finally changing.
I don't care what post-graduate permit holders think they're entitled to just by paying taxes here. In practice they're foreign nationals who want jobs and a life in Canada, same as anybody else. Hence they same process should apply. Say what you want about the US immigration system but at least they've got this right! You want permanent residence through employment? Same process for everyone, foreign student or not!
And I don't care how skilled post-grad permit holders think they are in their own head. Whatever your degree is in, I've got news for you: there are plenty of people with the same degree as you. Nothing special there!
I can tell you how it works in the US if you want to immigrate without LMIA as a skilled worker: the law only considers you skilled enough if you have achieved
documented international recognition for your work (you actually have to three prizes, such as Nobel Prize). Just having an engineering degree? Please .... don't make me laugh.
This puts the final end to the abuse of foreign students by universities, who just want one thing and one thing only: power over young people. Universities should not be given the power to act as gatekeepers of immigration. That's not a power that's suited to them. I don't want recruiters going to China and saying "Pay us tuition, and you can qualify for PR at the end of your course." That's just plain messed up and I'm glad it's about to end.
