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Caipsnotes received NEED to understand (Anti Fraud Unit)

thorncliffe

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Dec 2, 2008
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Hi all.


I had received a letter in sep-2010 about one of the degree CHC has said it is a conterfeit document
based on the quality of printing


After that letter we ask the university and they gave us the verification letter which i send to CHC in sealed envolpe more than 6 months when i did not get the response i asked for the caipsnotes and find the following notes

In Response to the P.F letter, Have recvd verification from the University of XXX stating that the documents in question are verified to be genuine.

immigration section
================================03-AUG-2010=======================
FCR: PLS PREPARE MIS-REP P.F
================================08-SEP-2010=======================
A-40 PROCEDURAL FAIRNESS LTR SENT TO FN BY REGMAIL. 45 DAYS TO COMPY.
================================27-SEP-2010=======================
RESPONSE TO ABOVE PF LETTER RECVD. WILL FRWD TO FH TO REVIEW.
================================28-SEP-2010=======================
ABOVE ACTION DONE
================================25-NOV-2010=======================
IN REPONSE TO THE P.F LETTER, HAVE RECVD VERIFICATION FROM THE UNIVERISTY OF
XXXX STATING THAT THE DOUCMENTS IN QUESTION ARE VERIFIED TO BE GENUINE.

================================20-DEC-2010=======================
FILE TO BA AS PER REQUEST
================================17-JAN-2011=======================
FILE WAS ON LIST OF FILES ASSIGNED TO BA. FILE IS NOT READY FOR SELDEC AND SHOULD
BE RETURNED TO AF UNIT.......FILE TO FH FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS BEFORE FOWARDING TO
CBO.




Please can someone tell me notes looks everything is ok with the documents now

Thanks
 

CharlieD10

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Re: Caipsnotes received NEED to understand

From the notes, it is not clear that they have accepted the verification from the university that the documents are genuine. The file appears to have been returned to "FH", probably the officer who originated the procedural fairness letter in response to which you sent the letter from the university. That person's review may not yet be complete.

Also, it says the file is not ready for the selection decision (approval) so further review is necessary.

You have some more waiting to do for the officer's analysis of the letter from the university, would be my guess.
 

RobsLuv

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Re: Caipsnotes received NEED to understand

I disagree - it does seem clear to me that they received the letter from the university verifying that the document was genuine on 25Nov2010. For whatever reason, though, it appears that the file was then sent to "BA" for SELDEC on 20DEC2010, but was determined not to be ready for SELDEC and sent back to AF Unit for further analysis on 17JAN2011.

Not sure what the AF Unit is, or what they look after but it's been there for a long time. I think I'd get your MP's office involved to try to get some answers for you, especially if your case has exceeded the "normal" processing timeline for your embassy.
 

CharlieD10

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Re: Caipsnotes received NEED to understand

I agree that they received the letter from the university, what I am positing is that they have not made a decision on whether they are accepting the verification.

The file has been referred back to "FH" (received the verification letter) after being assigned to "BA" on his/her request (to make the selection decision?). FH is expected to perform further reviews before passing the file on to the Canadian-Based Officer (CBO).

In accounting/auditing (what I do), AF Unit typically refers to "Anti-Fraud Unit"...what it means in Canadian Immigration parlance, I am not certain, and could not find anything on it on CIC's website.
 

thorncliffe

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Re: Caipsnotes received NEED to understand

Thanks for reply i did the MP inquiry 6 months ago on 28-Jan-2011 and had received the following info. Time line of our case as follows

Sponsored in MAY 2005
Approved in AUG 2007
Submitted Doc in CHC Islamabad JAN-2008


G'morning,
This is to advise that we hope to finalise this case within the next 6 weeks.
Have a great weekend,
Best regards,

Immigration Section
Canadian High Commission
PO Box 1024, Islamabad, Pakistan

THEN i sent the inquiry again to MP 45 days ago and they replied

Dear XXX,

I spoke with Ministerial Services at CIC regarding your mother's application. Apparently, there was an email to Mr. Oliphant's office that said “we hope” to have the case finalised within 6 weeks but this has not happened.


Currently, the office in Islamabad is aware of the file and is following it closely. Background checks and verifications still have to be performed. CIC suggested that we enquire again at the end of August to see if the background checks have been started.



If you have not heard anything from CIC by the end of August then please contact our office.



Sorry, there is not better news concerning your mother's application.



Sincerely,



Office of John Carmichael MP

Don Valley West
 

mirjahan

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Maybe AF= Air France, Air Force
I am not sure maybe Application File no.
 

Kedeisha

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mirjahan said:
Maybe AF= Air France, Air Force
I am not sure maybe Application File no.
lmao AF means anti fraud but those airlines names a funny makes light of the situation
 

canadianwoman

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Since your letter says the file was returned to the AF Unit, I would also think it must means "Anti-Fraud", since that is where it had been before. And the first line presumably means "please prepare misrepresentation pro forma". It looks like they are still investigating your degree.
 

thorncliffe

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Dec 2, 2008
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i also notice these line on the last pages i did not post on my question.


=============================20-DEC-2010==================
FILE TO BA AS PER REQUEST
=============================17-JAN-2010==================
FILE WAS ON LIST OF FILES ASSIGNED TO BA. FILE IS NOT READY FOR SELDEC AND SHOULD BE RETURNED TO AF UNIT.
FILE TO FH FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS BEFORE FORWARDING TO CBO.
=============================FH 28-JAN-2011==================
REQUESTED REG TO LOCATE THE FILE
=============================08-FEB-2011==================
FILE RECEIVED FROM FCU


PAPER FILE SENT TO: VER BF FILE TO : VER ON 11-08-2011
 

MandyUK

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24th Jan 2012. (Canada Place)
thorncliffe said:
What is the CBO and what are CBO is responsible for
I think it stands for Canada Based officer.
 

MandyUK

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24th Jan 2012. (Canada Place)
thorncliffe said:
Yes i know it is stand for Canadian Based officer but what they actually responsible for.
That was a bit rude IMO but ok, seen as you didnt state you knew what it stood for.