Below 67 Points!

[CV User]

Anyone had any success with getting the PR card without the 67 points? Maybe 66?

 

[Leon]

If they wanted 66 points, they would ask for 66. Try to increase your points by improving your English or French.

 

[Furqan]

I also agreed, below 67 points, no chance.

 

[qbanky]

no

 

[migwelder]

I think not at all, if you get 66 and below here's the explanation on the cic website:

Did you pass?

If your mark from this test is the same or higher than the current pass mark, you may qualify to immigrate as a skilled worker.

If your mark is lower than the pass mark, you might not qualify to immigrate as a skilled worker at this time.

However, if you believe there are other factors that would help you to become economically established in Canada, you may still apply.

Send a detailed letter with your application explaining what these factors are and why they may help you successfully establish yourself in Canada.

Include any documents that support your claim.

 

[CV User]

Any chance the law will be more lenient in the future?

I mean if you have a Bachelor's degree, I don't see the point of ILETS. That is just my opinion,.

 

[CV User]

I know lots of people here in the US who have bachelors degree and are quite bad in English. They are then forced to only socialize within their ethnic group and I can imagine, they wouldn't interview well for a job either.

It is possible to go through a bachelors degree even in the US without being able to speak well. So I can see why they want to make sure the applicant can communicate in one of Canada's language.
Thats just my opinion.

Well the test is not that easy to pass. I think the Time given is the main factor. You also can't get a degree in Bachelor's if your English is not great. Also the folks who do not communicate well in English are high earners in the USA based on what they do at their work which does not really require the English language.

 

[CV User]

Sure you can get a bachelors degree without being good in English. Have you been to China, Japan, Iran, Germany, etc. In all those countries, one doesn't have to know English to get bachelors. I am sure a lot of their graduates do know english but english is not a requirement.

I actually know students who are terrible in their english who will get their degree in US and at one of the top universities in the US too. The folks who do not communicate well in english....some of them are high earners because they are mostly in information analysis jobs, say like IT, etc. In other words, they have other attributes about them that make them successful economically. They are not generally in communication intensive jobs. In fact, Canada is saying its okay to be not so good in English if the applicant has other great attributes and these other attributes are demonstrated by having high points in other categories.

Canada is not differentiating the need for english ability based on the type of job (i.e. communication intensive vs not).

There are also lots of people who are bad in English who are not high earners in the US.

I agree the test is not easy to do great especially given the time limit.

I needed a 7 but got a 6.5. I think its pretty tough to get a 7 or above on the IELTS General.
Are the ILETS test more lenient in other countries in terms of grading?

 

[john5655]

I have to agree with Hari

I employ countless fresh graduates and am often shocked at their English standards

however, you don't have to be a great English speaker to become economically established in Canada, may Chines working in Vancouver can't speak a word of English!!! and FSW applicants can amass many points in the other five categories such that they may only need a few marks from IELTS to reach 67

everyone's different

 

[CV User]

I have to agree with Hari

I employ countless fresh graduates and am often shocked at their English standards

however, you don't have to be a great English speaker to become economically established in Canada, may Chines working in Vancouver can't speak a word of English!!! and FSW applicants can amass many points in the other five categories such that they may only need a few marks from IELTS to reach 67

everyone's different

Yea but you have to have special skills to get a good salary job too. Canada's cost of living is high.

 

[migwelder]

Not at all, in Alberta the tax is small, Saskatchewan I think the cost of living is not that high too.

 

[Albertagoverner]

If they wanted 66 points, they would ask for 66. Try to increase your points by improving your English or French.

FOLLOW THESE STEPS​

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First of all, Remember: Everything is possible, You Just need to have a plan and Process!!​

Buy a elementry level french course book and learn elementry level french which is very easy. and learn some basic sentence like, Good morning!, Hello, Hi, Thanks, My name is XYZ. It dramatically increase your chance. Tell your family member in home country to prepare a experience letter as Plumber, Generator Mechanic, Brick layer worker, construction mason type role only those special occupation which are needed by Canada but In home country to do those things you don't have to be certified or License holder. Everything will be fine. You send application with showing some french language knowledge and start learning a little bit of french.I have seen people who followed this way and got PR Visa. Visa interview consists of certain stereotype questions just like, How old are you?, Do you own a house or rent? Just learn 30-40 those questions in french try to remember those words. Also involve a good CIC representative in this type of application. Make sure while you select representative of CIC who is lawyer and member of Canada Bar Association. In that way if something goes in negative direction he will manage through some non-traditional paths like other type of Humantarian grounds or will get you a Job offer from Construction company then your score will cross 75 points. Or even if gets denied representative will file appeal for you as rep will just not be a Consultant who just advice how to fill the form! he will also be a lawyer and member of Bar association of Canada. Everything is possible. But there will be some extra service expense around 3000-4000$ overall. try to google some representative cum lawyer in toronto area. you can pay them online or even you can file your case through them and go back to your country. All correspondence will be replied by your consultant from his Canadian postal address and he will possibily get a interview waiver for you. Sit relax and watch him from anywhere in world!

 

[jtob]

that's a great suggestion!

 

[john5655]

that is absolute rubbish

to get the basic two points for French as a second language you need to have studied French for a number of years and take TEF with minimum score of 3.0 to prove it!!! That's the same as getting 4.0 in IELTS

next point, CIC interviews are not to establish language skills, you need the test results from IELTS and/or TEF, but if you are interviewed and your results don't match your claimed ability during interview, you are likely to get a negative substituted evaluation!!!

and as for inciting people to produce fake documents for immigration purposes, shame on you!!!

and if you think it is a great suggestion...??? good luck to you!!!

 

[jtob]

i was being sarcastic when i said its a great suggestion!

of course they're not going to give you points for knowing good morning in french.

submitting fake documents is for the desperate. and they're going to find out its fake during their background check. they're not going to take your word for everything you say you have. they're to check the authenticity of your documents.

if you have the $3000- 4000 to pay for a lawyer, why not?