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BC PNP SEPTEMBER 2014 Applicants Here

Bholl

Full Member
Sep 22, 2014
45
0
JHGelbolingo said:
Hi Bholl,

Just wanna ask if how did you submitted your documents? did you went to the BCPNP office in vancouver in person or you have it sent through courier? and the date you indicated as September 30, is this the date that BCPNP received your documents?

The reason why I ask you because I sent my documents through purolator and base on the tracking that it was delivered September 29 and receive by the receptionist name Theresa. Until now I havent received any AOR yet. So when I check back the notification email from purolator about my documents that has been delivered, it indicate that it was delivered to TAXATION OFFICE....the address of the provincial office for BCPNP and the Taxation office are both the same and the same suite number. I am not just so sure if both are in the same office and building..and just have different office name but the same area or unit..

I am worried..I have called the purolator and they are finding out from the delivery guy if the office where my documents is dropped inTaxation is just the same office for BCPNP..

I also emailed the BCPNP if they have the same office location with the taxation and if documents that are drop in that office main reception area is submitted to the correct office.

I really need help if anybody here has info about this experience.

thanks
Yes i sent mine via courier also with a through corporate logistics it was recieved by Anna.

I am unsure about the name of the location but the address was
800-360 West Georgia Street, Vancouver, BC V6B 6B2

hopefully that is where yours was sent to.
 

param17

Star Member
Apr 2, 2014
183
1
JHGelbolingo said:
Hi Bholl,

Just wanna ask if how did you submitted your documents? did you went to the BCPNP office in vancouver in person or you have it sent through courier? and the date you indicated as September 30, is this the date that BCPNP received your documents?

The reason why I ask you because I sent my documents through purolator and base on the tracking that it was delivered September 29 and receive by the receptionist name Theresa. Until now I havent received any AOR yet. So when I check back the notification email from purolator about my documents that has been delivered, it indicate that it was delivered to TAXATION OFFICE....the address of the provincial office for BCPNP and the Taxation office are both the same and the same suite number. I am not just so sure if both are in the same office and building..and just have different office name but the same area or unit..

I am worried..I have called the purolator and they are finding out from the delivery guy if the office where my documents is dropped inTaxation is just the same office for BCPNP..

I also emailed the BCPNP if they have the same office location with the taxation and if documents that are drop in that office main reception area is submitted to the correct office.

I really need help if anybody here has info about this experience.

thanks
Brother do not worry they are both in same office...You will get AOR soon...
 

JHGelbolingo

Star Member
Jun 13, 2014
83
0
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Vancouver Nominee Office - Inside Canada
NOC Code......
6315
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-09-2014
Nomination.....
07-10-2015
AOR Received.
27-10-2014
LANDED..........
Already in Canada
Bholl said:
Yes i sent mine via courier also with a through corporate logistics it was recieved by Anna.

I am unsure about the name of the location but the address was
800-360 West Georgia Street, Vancouver, BC V6B 6B2

hopefully that is where yours was sent to.
Hi Bholl,

I sent mine to

BC Provincial Nominee Program Office
360 Georgia Street W
Suite 800
Vancouver BC
V6B 6B2

Thia is the format since the purolator address format will ask for the street address which is the 360 Georgia St...then it will ask for if its west, east, northwest or alley..so I choose the West..the it ask for the unit number or suite number which is 800...then city and the postal code.

What courier dis you use? did you just put the address, the samw format thats on the website which is 800 - 360 West Georgia St?

when you track your documents, what it says on the tracking of what office received it? I hope that purolator can provide me he update.

Thanks
 

24

Hero Member
Nov 4, 2013
426
56
Visa Office......
NDVO/Mississauga office
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
11-07-2014/03-11-2017
AOR Received.
06-01-2015/10-01-2018
IELTS Request
Provided upfront
Med's Request
14-01-2015
Med's Done....
24-01-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
03-30-2015
VISA ISSUED...
04-15-2015
LANDED..........
Already in Canada :P
Hello everyone,

If I may ask. could some one from you help me with PNP process in BC. My wife recently got a job in vancouver. How long to wait till she can apply under PNP? Is it necessary to have a permanent job or contractors can apply?
 

JHGelbolingo

Star Member
Jun 13, 2014
83
0
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Vancouver Nominee Office - Inside Canada
NOC Code......
6315
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-09-2014
Nomination.....
07-10-2015
AOR Received.
27-10-2014
LANDED..........
Already in Canada
param17 said:
Brother do not worry they are both in same office...You will get AOR soon...
Hi param17

just worried why i havent recieve any AOR, were others has same timeline with mine when docs is submitted..but other already got their AOR ..and I havent gotten mine...

I was received September 29...other applicant recieved their docs in BCPNP office September 30 and they got their AOR Oct 16...So i was suspecting if its because that my docs is dropped at the receptionist in Taxation office and not in BCPNP office...were the shipping label clearly stated the office name of BC Provincial Nominee Program.


I am praying that I hope to get the AOR sooner so I dont have to be stress
 

Bholl

Full Member
Sep 22, 2014
45
0
JHGelbolingo said:
Hi param17

just worried why i havent recieve any AOR, were others has same timeline with mine when docs is submitted..but other already got their AOR ..and I havent gotten mine...

I was received September 29...other applicant recieved their docs in BCPNP office September 30 and they got their AOR Oct 16...So i was suspecting if its because that my docs is dropped at the receptionist in Taxation office and not in BCPNP office...were the shipping label clearly stated the office name of BC Provincial Nominee Program.


I am praying that I hope to get the AOR sooner so I dont have to be stress
any news yet?

I used Coporate Logistics Couriers.
 

Ddvan

Newbie
Oct 20, 2014
9
0
R1982 said:
hi kwil74
i've added you in the list ......so it would help you figure out about your BC PNP application.
Applicant's File no. Applied. AOR. Decision. Got approval
Name Made by E-mail Letter by mail
intruz. SO-14-14**. 21march2014. 29april2014. 24july2014. 13Aug.2014
Pardeep1328. SO-14-16**. 31march2014. 01may2014. Approved 02sep.2014. ?
ielts007. SO-14-17** 02april 2014. 01may2014. 21aug.2014. 03sep.2014
Make it 2014. SO-14-18**. 09april 2014. 16may2014. 09sep.2014. ?
diliprathore. SO-14-19**. 10april 2014. 14may2014. 05sep.2014. 19sep.2014
Lamefellx. SO-14-19**. 10april 2014. 14may2014. 08sep.2014. 19sep.2014
Zoenick. SO-14-20**. 22april 2014. 26may2014. 29sep.2014. Still waiting
Lbdz. SO-14-21**. 23april 2014. 26may2014. 18sep.2014. Still waiting
wang tzu SO-14-21** 24april 2014 21may 2014 [Asking more documents29sep.14] Still waiting
tz_0407 SO-14-21** 25april 2014 ? Still waiting. Still waiting.
DJenny. SO-14-2*** 25april 2014. 28may 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Devinma. SO-14-229*. 2May 2014. 22may 2014. 30sep.2014. Still waiting
Harsh44. SO-14-**** 28april 2014. 29may 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Lucadi. SO-14-232*. 30april 2014. 03June 2014. [APPROVED 7oct.2014]. Still waiting
R1982. SO-14-24**. 30april 2014. 03june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Chelpotz. SO-14-2400. 06may 2014. 06june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Alex1988. SO-14-24**. 07may 2014. 03june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jeromeshin. SO-14-2***. 07may 2014. 04june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
hcmistri. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Sheri_liv. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Lc428. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
rhonny. SO-14-25**. 12may 2014. 10june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
england1983. SO-14-25**. 13may 2014. 10june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
sjz. SO-14-26**. 16may 2014. 18june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Andy_sam. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 14june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
zainsami. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
aashu1986. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
My Friend1. SO-14-28**. 23may 2014. 23june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Skg1989. SO-14-29**. 27may 2014. 00july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Kapen. SO-14-295*. 27may 2014. 03july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
My Friend2. SO-14-29**. 29may 2014. 27june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jigvan. SO-14-31**. 01june 2014. 02july. 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Gagan292. SO-14-32**. 03june 2014. 07july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
canadaPC SO-14-43** 14july 2014 22july 2014 Still waiting. Still waiting
jenn19 SO-14-49** 14aug.2014 20aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
Pete_t. SO-14-56** 10sep.2014 25sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
kwil74 SO-14-58** 18sep.2014 07oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting

Hi everyone

Please update your information regularly related to your BC PNP application. if anyone is not in the this chart who applied BC PNP in APRIL and MAY 2014. Please let me know your timeline so i could add you in the list to finger out how they processing BC PNP application nows a days. hopefully they are reviewing at least 20-25 files everyday.
good luck all
Regards
Applied September 3rd 2014, aor September 16, so-14-54**
 

JHGelbolingo

Star Member
Jun 13, 2014
83
0
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Vancouver Nominee Office - Inside Canada
NOC Code......
6315
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-09-2014
Nomination.....
07-10-2015
AOR Received.
27-10-2014
LANDED..........
Already in Canada
Bholl said:
any news yet?

I used Coporate Logistics Couriers.
Hi Bholl,

I emailed BCPNP and they responded that they have received my doc and they are currently being entered into their database. and will get the AOR latest next week.. I am happy at least they have my docs.

Really thankful. I will wait for the email that has the file number.

Thanks
 

Hort

Newbie
Oct 14, 2014
3
0
Hi guys, is this AOR sent by the Centralized Intake Office (CIO)? Is there any other AOR during the BC PNP process?

Thanks.
 

zhram

Full Member
Jan 5, 2013
38
1
Hi @jhgelbolingo:

I'm wondering if the BCPNP replied your msg right away? And what is their email address? I'm planning to send them an email too coz i sent my application last oct. 3 and still didn't get any file number?
 

JHGelbolingo

Star Member
Jun 13, 2014
83
0
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Vancouver Nominee Office - Inside Canada
NOC Code......
6315
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-09-2014
Nomination.....
07-10-2015
AOR Received.
27-10-2014
LANDED..........
Already in Canada
zhram said:
Hi @ jhgelbolingo:

I'm wondering if the BCPNP replied your msg right away? And what is their email address? I'm planning to send them an email too coz i sent my application last oct. 3 and still didn't get any file number?
I sent them an email Oct 17...then i got the response Oct 20 telling me that they cant find my file.so they ask me to provide my full name, name of the company Ibwork for and my date of birth, then I responded back with my info they ask,after and hour they responded back that they found my application and its been encoded on the system...If you submitted on Oct 3...you will not get the AOR yet...I havent got mine yet even they recieved my documents last Sept 29...they are still encoding my file on their database even though my credit card is already charged for the $550 processing fee..you might wanna wait till the end of this week or early next week for your AOR..
 

zhram

Full Member
Jan 5, 2013
38
1
JHGelbolingo said:
I sent them an email Oct 17...then i got the response Oct 20 telling me that they cant find my file.so they ask me to provide my full name, name of the company Ibwork for and my date of birth, then I responded back with my info they ask,after and hour they responded back that they found my application and its been encoded on the system...If you submitted on Oct 3...you will not get the AOR yet...I havent got mine yet even they recieved my documents last Sept 29...they are still encoding my file on their database even though my credit card is already charged for the $550 processing fee..you might wanna wait till the end of this week or early next week for your AOR..
Thank you...I'll just wait till you get your file number.
 

kwil74

Full Member
Aug 18, 2014
25
0
Hi.
For all you guys that applied in September, and got AOR since the new processing time of 8 to mths, did your email states 8 to 9 mths or did it say to check the web site for processing time?
 

R1982

Hero Member
Sep 13, 2014
413
8
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
?
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
PNP-30Apr.14
Doc's Request.
18Oct.2014
Nomination.....
11NOV.2014
IELTS Request
SUBMITTED
Med's Request
30April2015
Med's Done....
06May2015
Interview........
No Interview
Passport Req..
16 Sept. 2015
VISA ISSUED...
21 Sept. 2015
LANDED..........
01 Oct. 2015 PR Card Received-13Jan.2016
Ddvan said:
Applied September 3rd 2014, aor September 16, so-14-54**
HowdyHo SO-14-22** 02may 2014 22may 2014. 01 OCT.2014 23 OCT.2014
Devinma. SO-14-229*. 02may 2014. 22may 2014. 01 OCT.2014 14 OCT.2014
harsh44. SO-14-22** 28april 2014. 29may 2014. ? 14 OCT.2014
Lucadi. SO-14-232*. 30april 2014. 03June 2014. 07 OCT.2014 15 OCT.2014
R1982. SO-14-24**High 30april 2014. 03june 2014. [ASKING more docu.17oct.] Still waiting
allenBCPNP. SO-14-24**. 06may 2014. 09june 2014. 15 OCT.2014 21 OCT.2014
Chelpotz. SO-14-2400. 06may 2014. 06june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Alex1988. SO-14-24**. 07may 2014. 03june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jeromeshin. SO-14-24**Low. 07may 2014. 04june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.14OCT.] Still waiting
stuartgrahamjame.SO-14-259*. 08may 2014. 10may 2014. 24 OCT.2014 Still waiting
nessjo. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. [APPROVED 17oct.2014] Still waiting
hcmistri. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. 15 OCT.2014 24 OCT.2014
Sheri_liv. SO-14-25**High 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Lc428. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
rhonny20. SO-14-25**. 12may 2014. 10june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
alex fajardo. SO-14-****. 13may 2014. 07june 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
england1983. SO-14-25**. 13may 2014. 10june 2014. ? 24 OCT.2014
Satchboogies. SO-14-26**. 15may 2014. 12june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.24OCT.] Still waiting
sjz. SO-14-268*. 16may 2014. 18june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.24OCT.] Still waiting
Andy_sam. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 14june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
zainsami. SO-14-274*. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
aashu1986. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
thomw85. SO-14-281*. 22may 2014. ? 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
R.frnd.DCH SO-14-28**. 22may 2014. 24june 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
My Friend1. SO-14-28**. 23may 2014. 23june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Skg1989. SO-14-294*. 27may 2014. 03july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Kapen. SO-14-295*. 27may 2014. 03july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Saanj SO-14-297*. 27may 2014. 16june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
My Friend2. SO-14-29**. 29may 2014. 27june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jigvan. SO-14-31**. 02june 2014. 03july. 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Gagan292. SO-14-32**. 03june 2014. 07july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
oh—!canada SO-14-37**. 02july 2014. 21july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
Hellus. SO-14-39**. 04july 2014. ? 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
danieisqueiroz. SO-14-39**. 04july 2014. 16july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
zacknling SO-14-40**. 08july 2014. 21july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
ursbnp3 SO-14-40**. 10july 2014. 22july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
Rzhang SO-14-40**. 11july 2014. 22july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
anurag4090 SO-14-****. 11july 2014. 23july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
canadaPC SO-14-43** 14july 2014 22july 2014 Still waiting. Still waiting
benc123. SO-14-419*. 16july 2014 24july 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
viki2012 SO-14-**** 21july 2014 00000 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
jasmann3282 SO-14-43**. 22july 2014. 29july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
snowp SO-14-47** 05aug.2014 11aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
r1987 SO-14-**** 11aug.2014 19aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
jenn19 SO-14-49** 14aug.2014 20aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
kanzhang SO-14-50** 18aug.2014 10sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
loyal SO-14-**** 26aug. 2014 14oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
nimool SO-14-54** 02sep.2014 18sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
Ddvan SO-14-54** 03sep.2014 16sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
Pete_t. SO-14-56** 10sep.2014 25sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
kwil74 SO-14-58** 18sep.2014 07oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
YVRBCPNP SO-14-605* 26sep.2014 10oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
ssx2 S0-14-61** 30sep.2014 16oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting

Hi everyone
Please update your information regularly related to your BC PNP application. if anyone is not in the this chart who applied BC PNP from APRIL to OCT. 2014. Please let me know your timeline so i could add you in the list to figure out how they processing BC PNP application nows a days. hopefully they are reviewing at least 20-25 files everyday.
good luck all
regards
 

Bholl

Full Member
Sep 22, 2014
45
0
R1982 said:
HowdyHo SO-14-22** 02may 2014 22may 2014. 01 OCT.2014 23 OCT.2014
Devinma. SO-14-229*. 02may 2014. 22may 2014. 01 OCT.2014 14 OCT.2014
harsh44. SO-14-22** 28april 2014. 29may 2014. ? 14 OCT.2014
Lucadi. SO-14-232*. 30april 2014. 03June 2014. 07 OCT.2014 15 OCT.2014
R1982. SO-14-24**High 30april 2014. 03june 2014. [ASKING more docu.17oct.] Still waiting
allenBCPNP. SO-14-24**. 06may 2014. 09june 2014. 15 OCT.2014 21 OCT.2014
Chelpotz. SO-14-2400. 06may 2014. 06june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Alex1988. SO-14-24**. 07may 2014. 03june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jeromeshin. SO-14-24**Low. 07may 2014. 04june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.14OCT.] Still waiting
stuartgrahamjame.SO-14-259*. 08may 2014. 10may 2014. 24 OCT.2014 Still waiting
nessjo. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. [APPROVED 17oct.2014] Still waiting
hcmistri. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. 15 OCT.2014 24 OCT.2014
Sheri_liv. SO-14-25**High 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Lc428. SO-14-25**. 09may 2014. 17june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
rhonny20. SO-14-25**. 12may 2014. 10june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
alex fajardo. SO-14-****. 13may 2014. 07june 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
england1983. SO-14-25**. 13may 2014. 10june 2014. ? 24 OCT.2014
Satchboogies. SO-14-26**. 15may 2014. 12june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.24OCT.] Still waiting
sjz. SO-14-268*. 16may 2014. 18june 2014. [ASKING more Docu.24OCT.] Still waiting
Andy_sam. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 14june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
zainsami. SO-14-274*. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
aashu1986. SO-14-27**. 21may 2014. 15june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
thomw85. SO-14-281*. 22may 2014. ? 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
R.frnd.DCH SO-14-28**. 22may 2014. 24june 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
My Friend1. SO-14-28**. 23may 2014. 23june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Skg1989. SO-14-294*. 27may 2014. 03july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Kapen. SO-14-295*. 27may 2014. 03july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Saanj SO-14-297*. 27may 2014. 16june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
My Friend2. SO-14-29**. 29may 2014. 27june 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Jigvan. SO-14-31**. 02june 2014. 03july. 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
Gagan292. SO-14-32**. 03june 2014. 07july 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
oh—!canada SO-14-37**. 02july 2014. 21july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
Hellus. SO-14-39**. 04july 2014. ? 2014. Still waiting. Still waiting
danieisqueiroz. SO-14-39**. 04july 2014. 16july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
zacknling SO-14-40**. 08july 2014. 21july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
ursbnp3 SO-14-40**. 10july 2014. 22july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
Rzhang SO-14-40**. 11july 2014. 22july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
anurag4090 SO-14-****. 11july 2014. 23july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
canadaPC SO-14-43** 14july 2014 22july 2014 Still waiting. Still waiting
benc123. SO-14-419*. 16july 2014 24july 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
viki2012 SO-14-**** 21july 2014 00000 2014 Still waiting Still waiting
jasmann3282 SO-14-43**. 22july 2014. 29july 2014. Still waiting Still waiting
snowp SO-14-47** 05aug.2014 11aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
r1987 SO-14-**** 11aug.2014 19aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
jenn19 SO-14-49** 14aug.2014 20aug.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
kanzhang SO-14-50** 18aug.2014 10sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
loyal SO-14-**** 26aug. 2014 14oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
nimool SO-14-54** 02sep.2014 18sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
Ddvan SO-14-54** 03sep.2014 16sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
Pete_t. SO-14-56** 10sep.2014 25sep.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
kwil74 SO-14-58** 18sep.2014 07oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
YVRBCPNP SO-14-605* 26sep.2014 10oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting
ssx2 S0-14-61** 30sep.2014 16oct.2014 Still waiting Still waiting

Hi everyone
Please update your information regularly related to your BC PNP application. if anyone is not in the this chart who applied BC PNP from APRIL to OCT. 2014. Please let me know your timeline so i could add you in the list to figure out how they processing BC PNP application nows a days. hopefully they are reviewing at least 20-25 files everyday.
good luck all
regards
Hi R1982 can you please add me to the timeline
Applied 30th Sept
AOR 16th oct
File number SO-14-61**
obviously waiting for decision and approval pending