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Dear NekeOl:
Thanks for your helpful Reply,My GCMS might be ready for this week,,and then I will find out what is going on...
thanks again.
nekeol said:
@ mataiz, Just wait for the GCMS, BGC sometime not always takes long time as with you and me too, but BGC is nothing to do with refused visas but it is related to your travel history. if u travels more it takes long time. GCMS will give u detailed info. just wait and see. prepare yourself for the 2nd medicals, not sure but possible because of BGC. NEKEOL
 
mataiz said:
Dear NekeOl:
Thanks for your helpful Reply,My GCMS might be ready for this week,,and then I will find out what is going on...
thanks again.
HI
Dear seniors
Could you tell me what is GCMS, BGC.
thanks and regards
 
GCMS--Global Case Management SYstem-- THE IT SYSTEM which replaced CAIPS.
BGC--Background Check
 
Dear Forum members;

I need your precious advice on my following status.

'I submitted my application in Nov 2009 for NOC code 4131, docs were sent to visa office London in April 2010. Processing commenced in Feb 2012, they asked for updated docs including PCCs' which were sent in July 2012. Original docs also returned by CHC in Sept 2012 with no concerns. Docs for new born submitted in Nov 2012. Since then I have not heard from them. I have not been asked for medicals and RPRF. I sent two inquiries with a gap of one month but no response from CHC London.

I requested for GCMS/CAIPS notes which revealed that 'My medicals were requested in July 2012 but I never received them. They once intimated that through email that medical request is sent to me but after two days another email was received by CHC indicating that no medicals are requested. The caips notes also indicate a remark from visa officer in which he asked his assistant to scan the updated forms and PCC's and send to him. After that there is no progress. I have been declared eligible in CAIPS notes. Does this mean that my background checks are 'ON' without medicals and RPRF. If not, what could be the possible reason for delay.


Has this type of progress been witnessed by any other fellow. Kindly share your comments to help me understand my status.




Regards,
 
rnss, my case and caips is the same as with u, CSI reply by LVO 'BGC' in process no timeframe given.

RNSS said:
Dear Forum members;

I need your precious advice on my following status.

'I submitted my application in Nov 2009 for NOC code 4131, docs were sent to visa office London in April 2010. Processing commenced in Feb 2012, they asked for updated docs including PCCs' which were sent in July 2012. Original docs also returned by CHC in Sept 2012 with no concerns. Docs for new born submitted in Nov 2012. Since then I have not heard from them. I have not been asked for medicals and RPRF. I sent two inquiries with a gap of one month but no response from CHC London.

I requested for GCMS/CAIPS notes which revealed that 'My medicals were requested in July 2012 but I never received them. They once intimated that through email that medical request is sent to me but after two days another email was received by CHC indicating that no medicals are requested. The caips notes also indicate a remark from visa officer in which he asked his assistant to scan the updated forms and PCC's and send to him. After that there is no progress. I have been declared eligible in CAIPS notes. Does this mean that my background checks are 'ON' without medicals and RPRF. If not, what could be the possible reason for delay.


Has this type of progress been witnessed by any other fellow. Kindly share your comments to help me understand my status.




Regards,
 
Dear guys
It took long long time for me now 9 months passed from med exam and untill now no PPR,

BTW last email LVO sent me background check will take several months till complete
Why they didnt mention how many months and they leave it open in several months???
Regards,,,
 
nekeol said:
rnss, my case and caips is the same as with u, CSI reply by LVO 'BGC' in process no timeframe given.

nekeol,

Who is your visa officer. Did he reply to you on first inquiry or second. i have no response even after two inquiries. If the medicals are to be conducted after BGC then don't you think it is a better option because there will be no chance of re-medicals. Additionally, you will have more time for visa expiry. So there will be no issue of hurry after getting visa.


Regards,
 
RNSS, my Program Assistant is SJM, VO I dont know.
my all inquiries are replied, two of them in one month, and two of them , next day .

I am also hopeful and agree with ur openion, if BGC conducted in advance then it wil take lessor time in DM after medical and give more time for visa or Security as Security is conducted/initiated after medical.
serious issue, why my BGC is not completed in 8 months, r we under further BGC?

i have applied for GCMS let us see, I m stuck in this BGC & in process. my Eligibility is Passed ,while all the other not started yet. I hope for the Good

RNSS said:
nekeol,

Who is your visa officer. Did he reply to you on first inquiry or second. i have no response even after two inquiries. If the medicals are to be conducted after BGC then don't you think it is a better option because there will be no chance of re-medicals. Additionally, you will have more time for visa expiry. So there will be no issue of hurry after getting visa.


Regards,
 
Dear Nekeol

U urself has written VO London in Profile isn't it ?



nekeol said:
RNSS, my Program Assistant is SJM, VO I dont know.
my all inquiries are replied, two of them in one month, and two of them , next day .

I am also hopeful and agree with ur openion, if BGC conducted in advance then it wil take lessor time in DM after medical and give more time for visa or Security as Security is conducted/initiated after medical.
serious issue, why my BGC is not completed in 8 months, r we under further BGC?

i have applied for GCMS let us see, I m stuck in this BGC & in process. my Eligibility is Passed ,while all the other not started yet. I hope for the Good
 
Sorry Dubaiite,
Yes you are right VO is Visa Office as well.
I was writing about (VO) Visa Officer and (PA)Program Assistant and not about the Visa Office.

dubaiite said:
Dear Nekeol
U urself has written VO London in Profile isn't it ? YES
 
nekeol said:
RNSS, my Program Assistant is SJM, VO I dont know.
my all inquiries are replied, two of them in one month, and two of them , next day .

I am also hopeful and agree with ur openion, if BGC conducted in advance then it wil take lessor time in DM after medical and give more time for visa or Security as Security is conducted/initiated after medical.
serious issue, why my BGC is not completed in 8 months, r we under further BGC?

i have applied for GCMS let us see, I m stuck in this BGC & in process. my Eligibility is Passed ,while all the other not started yet. I hope for the Good

nekeol,

I already got my GCMS in which nothing was noticeable with respect to the delays occurring. One thing was that the Visa Officer requested his assistant, in August 2012, to scan the updated docs, PCCs' and email it to him. If I assume that he initiated the BGC in September, then it has already taken about 9 months. Another thing is that he marked the file for 'brought forward in March 2013' (i.e after 6 months) but no progress/status has been intimated by them.


You will get the results of GCMS in about 2 to 3 weeks time. Plz share your observations, after receipt of GCMS, which can improve our understanding of this process.


Regards,
 
i received this reply of my cse
we are currently undergoing varification procedures.

please inform me whats varification procedure. Did any MI1,MI2 or MI3 pakistani applicant receive varification call for their employer?
 
Hi,

Can any one explain the difference between background, security and criminal checks. Are they three different things or overlap in verifications?

Regards,
 
RNSS said:
Hi,

Can any one explain the difference between background, security and criminal checks. Are they three different things or overlap in verifications?

Regards,
qorax said:
Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks.


Standard Documentation Checks:
Our background check is done at the CHC stage. It commences the moment our file gets the 1st BFD by the VO. An indicator of which is the e-CAS that shows "In Progress". All docs been checked & our NOC being tallied against the MI, if the VO finds our case 'eligible' for Canadian PR, the file becomes 'Accepted'; and then it goes for standard background checks, viz. Exp, Quals, Adaptability, Qualitative Considerations etc.

The process involves many things. If our case file is well presented and the enclosures vouch the quality-quantity, adequate POF docs etc., there might not be a requirement of 'actually' calling the employers, references etc. The VOs have a way with that, they are experienced enough to ascertain the logical disposition of our case. But, if there are any concerns of his/her, s/he is likely to ask for additional docs, do further scrutiny vide any means [calling, visiting etc.] & might ask for an Interview.

-Culmination: When 'fully' satisfied, we get the 'Medical Request'.
-Timeframe: Can be anything around 3-8* months, for the 'fast track' system (Avg. 4-5 months).
-eCAS: Continues to Show 'In Process'.
*The older system has a queue, thus can be longer.

Security & Criminality Checks:
A part of the b/ground checks is the 'Security Check'. It commences after our med results are submitted to the CHC. This is a major activity -mainly concerning our 'safe inclusion' into the Canadian Soil; vis-a-vis, Political, Socio-Econmical, Anti-Social disposition, perceived Threat to Canada's integrity etc. This gets us the SDEC, CDEC & SECCRIM.

This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including CSIS, Interpol, NASC, Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here... the No. of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, ex-Servicemen [including Law Enforcement services], Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc.

If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', our case goes into a 'spin'. Then our file might go to the local Police/CID agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over by 5 months max. However, a point to be noted is that we can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason.

-Culmination: Only upon security clearance we receive the PPR.
-Timeframe: Around 2-6 months. Avg. 3 months. [With new system, sometimes PPR is clubbed with Meds]
-eCAS: Still 'In Process', but 'Med Results Recd.' inside.

*Yes, that's how a certain Mr. Sharukh Khan was detained for 4.5 hrs in an US port. He was a VIP, thus 4.5 hrs. For u & me -things could be different.
...
The Process in a Nutshell:

Stage-1: [CIO stage] Send Initial Apps+Processing Fees to CIO-NS > Qualitative Check > Issue of AOR+120 days Letter >

Stage-2: [CHC stage onwards] Send Full Docs+RPRF to the Local Visa Office > File on Queue > e-Cas: "Received by Visa Office" > Eligibility Check+PSDEC > Issue of 2nd AOR > Background Check > Issue of Additional docs Request [if any] > 1st BF'D > e-Cas: "In Process" > Send Addnl. Docs > Issue of Med Request > 2nd BF'D >

Stage-3: Meds Sent > e-Cas: "Medical Results Recd." > Issue of PPR* > Send Passport/s > Security Check > Visa/s Stamped > e-Cas: "Decision Made" >
*The Meds & PPR are sometimes 'clubbed' together.

Stage-4: Return of 'Stamped' Passport/s+COPR > Landing at the POE > e-Cas: "Completed".
...

Qorax