More interesting than the author's/blogger's points were the comments that followed after - I am not sure if to take them seriously or not coz those are many people with similar situation.curious_toad said:
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True, comments are there. But, I do not think we need to worry much about it but as you said have to take this blogger's view seriously and introspect whether there are avenues to overcome any hurdle if things do not work the way things are planned. One person's view or situation does not apply to all. And, it does not mean that all who migrated to any country are returning back. Some do, (a percentage) who come back to home country due to various reasons. That is the reason why I said there should be a thorough discussion before initiating any plans to move abroad.curious_toad said:
To add to this there are 'n' number of webpages and blogs about Australia, Canada, US, UK and EU. Both positive and negative.
I feel like from all the 'developed english speaking countries (UK/USA/OZ-NZ/CA)', USA may offer the best to most migrants regardless of professions or experience = most migrants to USA will make it in life eventually. Then again USA immigration system is really something to get through if you are willing to survive it but the 'rewards/benefits' are second to none. The other countries have a limitation of some sort that only migrants experience and realize. Also, how many fortune 500 type global companies come to anyone's mind when you say OZ/NZ/CA versus USA 
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.US have limitations in the number of GC they offer per year based on country of birth. If applicant is born in India it is almost 8 to 10 years of wait time in EB2 and EB3 category. And, these are sponsored by employers. Self sponsored GCs in EB1 and EB2 are not that easy as one has to be of extraordinary ability or working in a field of national interest. If one belongs to rest of the world other than India and China then GC might be a quick process if there is an employer to sponsor it. And, what are these amazing rewards or benefits US offer? I am sure there might be probably some. I would like to know the specificities.curious_toad said:I feel like from all the 'developed english speaking countries (UK/USA/OZ-NZ/CA)', USA may offer the best to most migrants regardless of professions or experience = most migrants to USA will make it in life eventually. Then again USA immigration system is really something to get through if you are willing to survive it but the 'rewards/benefits' are second to none. The other countries have a limitation of some sort that only migrants experience and realize. Also, how many fortune 500 type global companies come to anyone's mind when you say OZ/NZ/CA versus USA
So, anyone not working in a fortune 500 company is not happy and content in life? If that is the case everyone would move to US and rest of the world will be empty
Things like ability to change jobs easily and many companies within individual industries to work for and bonuses offered on the job. Like in USA it is common for new graduates with jobs being offered a signing up bonus which atleast is unheard of in my part of the world.jairichi said:US have limitations in the number of GC they offer per year based on country of birth. If applicant is born in India it is almost 8 to 10 years of wait time in EB2 and EB3 category. And, these are sponsored by employers. Self sponsored GCs in EB1 and EB2 are not that easy as one has to be of extraordinary ability or working in a field of national interest. If one belongs to rest of the world other than India and China then GC might be a quick process if there is an employer to sponsor it. And, what are these amazing rewards or benefits US offer? I am sure there might be probably some. I would like to know the specificities.
So, anyone not working in a fortune 500 company is not happy and content in life? If that is the case everyone would move to US and rest of the world will be empty
Point being that USA has more companies in general within each industry that can absorb qualified workforce compared to the others.jairichi said:So, anyone not working in a fortune 500 company is not happy and content in life? If that is the case everyone would move to US and rest of the world will be empty
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Great information here!
I sm a credit analyst with an MBA degree with majors in Finance and I meet all the requirements of Aus.immigration except my trade in not on their list. But after visiting this forum I re checked.and saw FINANCE BROKER. Can I apply under that category? As I am doing like 50% of mentioned duties. Perhaps a tweaking will get me through?
Great information here!
I sm a credit analyst with an MBA degree with majors in Finance and I meet all the requirements of Aus.immigration except my trade in not on their list. But after visiting this forum I re checked.and saw FINANCE BROKER. Can I apply under that category? As I am doing like 50% of mentioned duties. Perhaps a tweaking will get me through?
In the OZ process, you first have to get your degree and work assessed then you can be considered for a skilled visa application, which is what I don't get because after those assessments they still require your "OZ work experience". Keep in mind you will spend several hundreds of $$$ for work and education assessments and then pay a huge visa application fee and when you are successful and land in OZ = no OZ work experience, sorry mate life will be tough for you!
More importantly, in today's globalized world economy it is silly to be demanding 'local experience' - no sense at all. OH why, do physics, chemistry, maths, finance, economics, etc, do they change from country to country.
More importantly, in today's globalized world economy it is silly to be demanding 'local experience' - no sense at all. OH why, do physics, chemistry, maths, finance, economics, etc, do they change from country to country.
Thank you for your reply. But isnt it impossible to completely match all the responsibilities mentioned because job descriptions vary company to company.
Hi guys,
MY NOC is 221111 - Accountant (General) and I got my Educational Assessment by CPA Australia but it said that I do not have competency in "Financial Accounting & Reporting" and "Business Law". Can anybody tell me how can I fulfill these two competency areas? Thanks.
MY NOC is 221111 - Accountant (General) and I got my Educational Assessment by CPA Australia but it said that I do not have competency in "Financial Accounting & Reporting" and "Business Law". Can anybody tell me how can I fulfill these two competency areas? Thanks.
Well, the education assessment (ECA) is also there for Canada, US, etc. It is required to get the Canadian, US or Australian educational equivalent. That should be understandable. It is a skilled immigration visa and therefore they have a platform to assess experienced professionals from countries other than Australia in a level playing field. You also need to know that EE of Canada was adopted from skilled migration system of Australia & New Zealand. What you said is not true as for filing a visa there is no requirement to have Australia work experience.curious_toad said:
To gain employment not every employer asks for Australian experience. The way you say it any PR holder who has entered Australia did not find employment at all without local work experience. There are some instances where local experience candidates were preferred. The same goes for Canada too. For example, I am a biomolecular scientist and no one ever asked me about local experience. In certain occupations where regulatory guidelines have to be followed local work experience is absolutely necessary as one has to be aware of those regulatory guidelines that apply to Australia.
The number of years of education, subjects during studies, hours per subject, need for a project are not the same universally. Yes, there are changes even though one is a graduate in Physics, Chemistry, Maths, Finance or economics. Otherwise why would CIC ask for ECA? So from your point it is acceptable for CIC to asks for ECA but not when Australia asks for the same?
From my research it seems that mid-career professionals in IT or computer networking should find it easier to find work in Australia compared to other professions such as engineering, accounting etc. Based purely on what friends have reported, medical professionals are in most demand. Hospitality is a big education industry and I know some South Asians working there after their studies in Hotel Management. I cannot comment on academic jobs or other industries.
In the UK, for natives or settled migrants with UK degrees, it's easy to find contract work in almost any profession, as long as you have some experience but full-time jobs are a bit harder to come by outside of big companies who hire on graduate schemes. Professionals willing to start in small companies can find stable employment and work up to being the equivalent of a chief engineer, but may fight it challenging to migrate abroad where their qualifications are considered to be worthless. Companies are willing to give high posts to less experienced people if they show talent. There is a lot of work available in specialised sectors and sub-specialities and a lot of work for those with interdisciplinary skills. There is a lot of opportunity for self-employment and any and all types of business. Consultancy and contracting are huge. Sales and marketing in technical fields are also big business. I can tell you this from personal experience but many of these opportunities are not available for migrants. As for migrants, based upon my observations, Academic jobs for outsiders is very challenging especially in reputable universities. You may get a job following a PhD from a reputable British university, but it would be likely at a smaller university unless its really research oriented. Many Asians work on company-transfer visas in IT, banking etc. Many gained work in admin or banking in the City of London when the visa system was more lax- just spreadsheet data work really. There is a huge demand for IT everywhere in the world it seems. Many rich Indians are setting up businesses in London. For migrants who haven't been able to work professionally, historically migrants have taken up factory jobs (1950s-1960s) but in more recent times, service jobs, particularly petrol pumps, convenience stores, Asian restaurants. Aus and NZ migrants usually work for a couple of years in temporary jobs and contracting work, save a little money, travel and return home. Indians do the lower-level work or work in IT, finance, retail etc. Americans are usually business managers, academics etc. There are huge numbers of Chinese students. The highly qualified ones work in maths or biotech. Qualified Russians usually work in academics and those from Eastern Europe in skilled manual work. French, German and Dutch migrants work everywhere but never in trades or semi professional work. There are lot of people in retail across the board.
I've been researching jobs in Canada but cannot tell what is in demand. A 2008 parliamentary report revealed that 60 per cent of skilled immigrants work at a lower occupational level than they did before moving to this country. I read a statistic that only a small percentage of engineer migrants ever gain a licence to practice and that many find it difficult to gain licensure. Manual, service or skilled technical jobs (electricians, technicians, programmers) seem to be in high demand. There seems to be little breath in field of work and sub-specialities in engineering, just based upon the dismal numbers of job advertisements etc. I've seen almost no jobs for interdisciplinary experts. The only jobs for Public health professionals seems to be working in low wage part-time jobs as a receptionist for a diet clinic, whereas worldwide they could be a high profile policy advisor or managing a big project for a biotech company looking for grants or Public Health consultant on the health service. Jobs for specialist engineers or engineering project managers in high technology seems only to exist in Quebec (lots of vacancies) but they must be French speakers. Indeed it seems that Montreal has a lot of engineering and high professional jobs but elsewhere in Canada (again just based upon job sites), there is only demand for engineers in petroleum and IT.
If you're in engineering, public health, environmental sciences etc, what level of work are you doing? Is it big global projects with cutting edge technology, patent-worthy innovation, deep application of science, nation-level field work with good prospects for project management and leadership? Or is it more technical work like designing-to-spec, managing ongoing projects, retail, sales, inspection, installation and maintenance etc? What scope is there for interdisciplinary work particularly in project management?
I need your input on this.
In the UK, for natives or settled migrants with UK degrees, it's easy to find contract work in almost any profession, as long as you have some experience but full-time jobs are a bit harder to come by outside of big companies who hire on graduate schemes. Professionals willing to start in small companies can find stable employment and work up to being the equivalent of a chief engineer, but may fight it challenging to migrate abroad where their qualifications are considered to be worthless. Companies are willing to give high posts to less experienced people if they show talent. There is a lot of work available in specialised sectors and sub-specialities and a lot of work for those with interdisciplinary skills. There is a lot of opportunity for self-employment and any and all types of business. Consultancy and contracting are huge. Sales and marketing in technical fields are also big business. I can tell you this from personal experience but many of these opportunities are not available for migrants. As for migrants, based upon my observations, Academic jobs for outsiders is very challenging especially in reputable universities. You may get a job following a PhD from a reputable British university, but it would be likely at a smaller university unless its really research oriented. Many Asians work on company-transfer visas in IT, banking etc. Many gained work in admin or banking in the City of London when the visa system was more lax- just spreadsheet data work really. There is a huge demand for IT everywhere in the world it seems. Many rich Indians are setting up businesses in London. For migrants who haven't been able to work professionally, historically migrants have taken up factory jobs (1950s-1960s) but in more recent times, service jobs, particularly petrol pumps, convenience stores, Asian restaurants. Aus and NZ migrants usually work for a couple of years in temporary jobs and contracting work, save a little money, travel and return home. Indians do the lower-level work or work in IT, finance, retail etc. Americans are usually business managers, academics etc. There are huge numbers of Chinese students. The highly qualified ones work in maths or biotech. Qualified Russians usually work in academics and those from Eastern Europe in skilled manual work. French, German and Dutch migrants work everywhere but never in trades or semi professional work. There are lot of people in retail across the board.
I've been researching jobs in Canada but cannot tell what is in demand. A 2008 parliamentary report revealed that 60 per cent of skilled immigrants work at a lower occupational level than they did before moving to this country. I read a statistic that only a small percentage of engineer migrants ever gain a licence to practice and that many find it difficult to gain licensure. Manual, service or skilled technical jobs (electricians, technicians, programmers) seem to be in high demand. There seems to be little breath in field of work and sub-specialities in engineering, just based upon the dismal numbers of job advertisements etc. I've seen almost no jobs for interdisciplinary experts. The only jobs for Public health professionals seems to be working in low wage part-time jobs as a receptionist for a diet clinic, whereas worldwide they could be a high profile policy advisor or managing a big project for a biotech company looking for grants or Public Health consultant on the health service. Jobs for specialist engineers or engineering project managers in high technology seems only to exist in Quebec (lots of vacancies) but they must be French speakers. Indeed it seems that Montreal has a lot of engineering and high professional jobs but elsewhere in Canada (again just based upon job sites), there is only demand for engineers in petroleum and IT.
If you're in engineering, public health, environmental sciences etc, what level of work are you doing? Is it big global projects with cutting edge technology, patent-worthy innovation, deep application of science, nation-level field work with good prospects for project management and leadership? Or is it more technical work like designing-to-spec, managing ongoing projects, retail, sales, inspection, installation and maintenance etc? What scope is there for interdisciplinary work particularly in project management?
I need your input on this.
For a Financial Broker occupation you might need certification.jairichi said:
If you can get reference letters which matches atleast 70% of financial broker duties then you are good to go. Just get some tweaking done and make sure it is 70% match and then file for skills assessment.