Applying for spouse-sponsorship AND working holiday?

[David2736]

Hi all.

We have a bit of a conundrum.

I am in Edmonton, Alberta from the UK. Been here a little over 2 months and therefore have approx 3.75 months left for my stay here.

Clearly we will need to extend the visitor permit by approximately 12 months as the spouse-sponsored family class visa would take approx 10 months according to past applications with similar circumstances.

We are not married yet and plan to get married half way through November. That would then leave us with approx 2.75 months left.

Not a problem, right? I go ahead and request the extra visitation time on the grounds of needing to wait for the spouse-sponsored application to be processed, right? Not quite.

We want me to be able to start working and earning as soon as humanly possible and of course, legally. Therefore therein lies the problem and our conundrum.

Can we put in this spousal-sponsored visa application November of this year then applying for the International class (working holiday) application for about December and have them process simultaneously?

Any and all method postulating and alternative routes and/or tips would be MASSIVELY appreciated. We want to get this stuff out of the way so we can truly breathe a sigh of relief and continue our new life together.

Thank you.

 

[screech339]

Hi all.

We have a bit of a conundrum.

I am in Edmonton, Alberta from the UK. Been here a little over 2 months and therefore have approx 3.75 months left for my stay here.

Clearly we will need to extend the visitor permit by approximately 12 months as the spouse-sponsored family class visa would take approx 10 months according to past applications with similar circumstances.

We are not married yet and plan to get married half way through November. That would then leave us with approx 2.75 months left.

Not a problem, right? I go ahead and request the extra visitation time on the grounds of needing to wait for the spouse-sponsored application to be processed, right? Not quite.

We want me to be able to start working and earning as soon as humanly possible and of course, legally. Therefore therein lies the problem and our conundrum.

Can we put in this spousal-sponsored visa application November of this year then applying for the International class (working holiday) application for about December and have them process simultaneously?

Any and all method postulating and alternative routes and/or tips would be MASSIVELY appreciated. We want to get this stuff out of the way so we can truly breathe a sigh of relief and continue our new life together.

Thank you.

I thought IEC (Working holiday visa) can only be applied from outside Canada, in your case, London. So I don't think you can even apply for a working holiday while you are in Canada.

Screech339

 

[little_apple]

I applied from within Canada this year and it wasn't a problem

 

[screech339]

I applied from within Canada this year and it wasn't a problem

That's good to know.

 

[screech339]

David2736,

If you were able to get IEC visa within Canada while on sponsorshop, that is great. But remember this, you must quit your job when your IEC expires. IEC does not get "implied status" to allow you to continue working pass the expire date due to the fact that it is not extendable. You would be on visitor implied status the day after your IEC expires.

Screech339

 

[Jellyfishy]

Yup you can get it from inside Canada just fine, there are plenty of other issues though:

To "activate" your IEC you need to re-enter the country aka "flagpoling" (crossing and going straight back) and when you are applying inland you shouldn't leave the country. You can still risk it and I think it should be fine but it will be up to you.

They also wouldn't "process the two together" as they are very different things. IEC is just an exchange between the countries.

But here's the main problem: There are no IEC left this year. Every year each country in the exchange has a limited number of spots. Britain gets the most, but it's because it's VERY popular, and their spots run out the fastest, thus you would have to wait until January to get your IEC work permit.


If you decide not to work there is no need to send an application to extend visitor status, once you have sent your application (as long as it is before your current visitor period is up) you will be under implied status as a visitor.

ANOTHER option is to apply outland and then get the IEC in January. If you land with the right company that can give you a letter of recommendation you can then apply for a second year once this is up (of course this is an option with inland as well, but again you have to cross the border to activate). Currently outland is processing faster than inland (even though inland is speeding up a lot) and with IEC you would still be able to stay in the country as well as travel more freely. This is what I would have gone with had I known about the delays in the inland applications that we are now facing.

Good luck and congratulations on your upcoming marriage!

 

[David2736]

I would not be technically applying from within Canada, though, as I am still a UK citezen, with a UK address and I am only visiting, or is that not the point?

There are no IEC left this year.

I understand that. I would not be applying for 2013 but in fact 2014, which go live approx Oct/Nov to commence January. I would however apply for visitor extension for the event of me not getting awarded a IEC and just waiting out the spouse-sponsored PR application. Hopefully that doesn't affect the rest of your answers?

Also, I know that I would have to quit the job after 1 year unless I could apply to be awarded another year but by the tie the 1 year would be up, we are hoping the spouse-sponsored visa would be processed and the PR awarded so I could stay in Canada any way. Of course I would have to flag-pole anyway. We already know that.

So basically what I have gotten from this is that CIC won't reject the spouse-sponsored PR application nor the IEC application purely because the other has also been applied for. THank you.

 

[David2736]

If you decide not to work there is no need to send an application to extend visitor status, once you have sent your application (as long as it is before your current visitor period is up) you will be under implied status as a visitor.

How long afterwhich would that give me? A further 6 months or until the PR application decision is made?

 

[screech339]

How long afterwhich would that give me? A further 6 months or until the PR application decision is made?

Until PR is done.

 

[David2736]

Until PR is done.

Excellent! Thank you.

Thank you to everybody.

 

[David2736]

WAIT!

What if I am applying for the PR from outside Canada - would the implied status thing also come in to affect then or is it just for PR applications done within Canada?

 

[scylla]

WAIT!

What if I am applying for the PR from outside Canada - would the implied status thing also come in to affect then or is it just for PR applications done within Canada?

Within Canada only. No implied status if applying outside of Canada.

 

[David2736]

Within Canada only. No implied status if applying outside of Canada.

Thank you.

And the only advantage applying outside of Canada would be the quicker processing time?

If I get implied status until the PR is processed, I am not worried about that - unless there is something else?

 

[screech339]

Thank you.

And the only advantage applying outside of Canada would be the quicker processing time?

If I get implied status until the PR is processed, I am not worried about that - unless there is something else?

It is not an IF I get implied status when you apply inland. You will get implied status once your stay permit expires while you are in Canada. Once you leave Canada, you lose your implied status. And hopefully Canada will let you back in.

Screech339

 

[Rob_TO]

Thank you.

And the only advantage applying outside of Canada would be the quicker processing time?

If I get implied status until the PR is processed, I am not worried about that - unless there is something else?

Advantages to applying outland are quicker processing times, the fact you can go in/out of Canada during processing, and that you can appeal any refusal (not that that is likely).

Inland apps are longer, you are supposed to stay within Canada during entire processing, and there are no appeals.