Applicant from PhD program after 5 Nov, 2011 connect here to get status

[PhdStream]

Hi all,

I am the main applicant and my wife is the dependent. If my wife has graduated and found a job, do I need to notify them about the change? If so, how? How about myself, I will graduate soon. We applied last July, and still waiting...Thanks a million for the help!

Below is an excerpt from the PER email that I received

"Please inform the visa office of any changes in your application (e.g. birth or adoption of a child, marriage or common-law relationship, new occupation or employer, submission of an Arranged Employment Opinion approved by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, change of address, change of e-mail address, change of immigration representative, etc). "

If I were you, I would have update by emailing them with case and attaching the supporting documents (like graduation certificate, transcript, offer letter, e.t.c). If you have choose CPC-Ottawa as your visa office then email them at CPC-CTD-Ottawa @ cic.gc.ca. Please mentioned your application number (you can find this in the PER email) and UCI number (PER email and study/work permit) in your email.

 

[PhdStream]

Hello All, just to update (which may be helpful for some of you)

My tuition fee rate has been reduced to "Domestic rate" from "International rate" by the university. For this I just gave the copy of PER email to the grad. office.

 

[albaik]

Good to know ... what province are you living in?

Hello All, just to update (which may be helpful for some of you)

My tuition fee rate has been reduced to "Domestic rate" from "International rate" by the university. For this I just gave the copy of PER email to the grad. office.

 

[chakri264]

Hello All, just to update (which may be helpful for some of you)

My tuition fee rate has been reduced to "Domestic rate" from "International rate" by the university. For this I just gave the copy of PER email to the grad. office.

Which province are you from? Ontario universities apply domestic rate with PER email but not Saskatchewan. So if you are from Saskatchewan it helps.

 

[PhdStream]

Which province are you from? Ontario universities apply domestic rate with PER email but not Saskatchewan. So if you are from Saskatchewan it helps.

From ON..

 

[albaik]

Alberta does not do it as well. I live in Alberta.

Which province are you from? Ontario universities apply domestic rate with PER email but not Saskatchewan. So if you are from Saskatchewan it helps.

 

[chakri264]

2marriedphd's got medical request on 21 June itself. Update the tracker please.

 

[chakri264]

Alberta does not do it as well. I live in Alberta.

So its only ontario universities that does it or are there any other provinces do domestic fee with PER?

 

[PhdStream]

Below is the message that I received from our university almost 2 years back.

This week, the University of XXX received clarification from the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities (MTCU) on an eligibility category for government reporting which permits international doctoral students to be assessed domestic tuition. As per the Ministry of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism instructions issued in the Canada Gazette on November 5, 2011, international doctoral students may be eligible to apply for permanent residence status under the Federal Skilled Workers program.
Effective Fall 2012, doctoral students who have applied for permanent residence status through the Federal Skilled Worker class and received email from the Federal Skilled Worker, Centralized Intake Office, Sydney, NS may be eligible for the domestic tuition fee rate at the University of XXX. The email must explicitly state:
“The Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism issued instructions which were published in the Canada Gazette on November 5, 2011. These instructions specify that applications from international students who are currently enrolled in a PhD program, or foreign nationals who have completed a PhD program, in a recognized educational institution located in Canada and that are accompanied by the results of the principal applicant’s English or French language proficiency assessment are eligible to be processed in the Federal Skilled Worker class.
Based on a review of the information you have provided, your application has received a positive final determination of eligibility for processing on the basis of your enrolment in, or completion of, a PhD program as specified in the Instructions issued by the Ministry of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism and published in the Canada Gazette on November 5, 2011”

 

[CEC12]

In my case, I included all my experience in the schedule 3 form which included 5 years outside Canada (my main occupation, but I had 2 reference letters for only 3.5 years) and 3 years in Canada as RA/TA. The RA/TA was secondary for me and I am not sure if they even counted or not (I ordered GCMS and should know by the end of July).

That's my point as well. I put the outside Canada occupation as a main one and the RA as a second one. I got the GCMS notes, they counted the main occupation and did not give me points for the RA. However, I am worried that the duties do not match the NOC. I was thinking to put the RA as the main, so I contacted CIC and they said I can (just submit the updated schedule 3 from). I am still reluctant and did not change it yet. I will wait for sometime and see.

 

[meyakanor]

PhdStream, you're also a UW student ?

I remember that email, and initially, when I spoke with the immigration advisor at the UW, she said that the PER email would not be enough as an eligibility criteria for domestic tuition rates. I convinced her that the PER email denotes eligibility TO APPLY for PR, and those eligible to apply for PR should qualify as domestic students. That university-wide email was the result of me arguing with her, showing her that it is the province who decides who are domestic students and who are local students, and the York University had the specific wording to support my case. In the end, she agreed to check, and the Ministry confirmed my position; hence that university-wide email you quoted.

My point is this: while the universities may not at first agree with you, if you are right, you will get what you want, but you will need to keep pushing. I fought my battle almost two years ago, and it helped reduce tuition rates for all those UW students (and arguably, even Guelph students) with PER email from the PhD stream.

I suspect these would be true for other provinces as well. Look up the regulations that govern your province, and try to convince the schools that you are eligible for domestic rates. They may not agree with you initially, but keep pushing if you are positive that that's what the rules say.

 

[dr.em]

2marriedphd's got medical request on 21 June itself. Update the tracker please.

Plz add me to the tracker as well , I don't see my line

 

[KDP]

I have another related question:

In the case that my child was born in Canada and thus only my wife and myself are applying for immigration, in the generic application form IM 0008, should I write "2" for question 3 (How many family members, including you, are in this application?)

Also should I add my child in the "Dependent(s)" section? The application form says "You must include your spouse or common-lay partner, if applicable, and all of your dependent children, and those of your spouse or common-law partner, who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada". I'm not sure what this sentence means exactly.

Thank you in advance.

You definitely need to show proof of funds.
I don't know the answer to the second question, but I would put my money on funds for three people since you need to support your child.

 

[climate_modeller]

I have another related question:

In the case that my child was born in Canada and thus only my wife and myself are applying for immigration, in the generic application form IM 0008, should I write "2" for question 3 (How many family members, including you, are in this application?)

Also should I add my child in the "Dependent(s)" section? The application form says "You must include your spouse or common-lay partner, if applicable, and all of your dependent children, and those of your spouse or common-law partner, who are not already permanent residents or citizens of Canada". I'm not sure what this sentence means exactly.

Thank you in advance.

The way I look at it, you have the choice of two mistakes:

1) It's not necessary, but you add factually correct information, … so what! Does it really hurt you? I doubt it.
2) It's necessary, but you omit it. --> incomplete application, and quite possibly a rejection.

I'd choose "being safe" over "being right" in this case, … but of course, it's your call.

 

[climate_modeller]

Good news Climate_modeller! It means they are processing the group of people who got medical requests in late May. The next step for you is to receive the COPR in the mail! So, just stay at home and buy a pint of beer for the Canada Post deliverer.

Yes, at this point it's wait-n-see. I'm in the US at UC-Berkeley until the 23rd. I really hope it doesn't arrive until I get back to Canada. If it arrives while I'm out of the country, I expect it to be a bit of a hassle.