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[Anna2013]

Yes .. look at their guide or operation manual under the section "Work Experience"

I looked at the guide. It says "Full-time work means at least 30 hours of paid work per week", it does not say that if you worked 30+ hours, they will consider only 30 hours. AM I missing something?

 

[PhdStream]

I looked at the guide. It says "Full-time work means at least 30 hours of paid work per week", it does not say that if you worked 30+ hours, they will consider only 30 hours. AM I missing something?

Look at the operation manual .. If I'm not wrong its OP25-A. I applied CEC and I've read it ... which I'm sure

 

[informer2000]

Look at the operation manual .. If I'm not wrong its OP25-A. I applied CEC and I've read it ... which I'm sure

OP25-A says what Anna mentioned. I could not find anything that says that an excess of 30 hours/week will be ignored.

 

[Anna2013]

OP25-A says what Anna mentioned. I could not find anything that says that an excess of 30 hours/week will be ignored.

It is a bit vague (as usual) and I am afraid that they can play with the words if the they wish to. I am quoting the paragraph here and make the doubtful one in red:

"Pursuant to R73(1), “full-time work” means at least 30 hours of work over a period of one week, and pursuant to R73(2) “work” means an activity for which wages are paid or commission is earned. The full-time work experience requirement for applicants in the CEC may be met by the equivalent in part-time, paid work experience (e.g. more than one part-time job held simultaneously or one or more part-time jobs held over the equivalent of at least one year of full-time work). Work experience can be calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full-time (or equivalent) paid work (i.e. 30 hours per week in one job, or a total of at least 30 hours per week in more than one job) in one or more skilled occupations at Skill Type 0 (Managerial occupations), Skill Level A (Professional occupations) or B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the NOC.

Work experience must be acquired over a period of at least one year; work in excess of 30 hours per week over a shorter period cannot compensate for any shorter overall period of experience."

Does it mean that if one person works two months say for 15 hours/week, then it is not acceptable because it is less than 30? The last paragraph, it says that anyways you should wait and apply after one year, it doesn't say that if you worked say for two years and a for few months it was 30+ hours/week they will cut it off to 30. However, again we must be careful because their interpretation of manual is time-demand sensitive.

 

[changsun]

SJ2013, thank you so much for sharing.
That means I can submit my passport and my wife's, while I am waiting for the birth certificate (I just applied for a birth certificate today and it needs weeks to be received)?
OR do I need to submit the birth certificate first and wait for the further notice for submitting the passports?

If your child is born in Canada then he/she is a Canadian citizen. In this case, you need to send the birth certificate only and no further information is needed. I did the same few months ago.

 

[informer2000]

Work experience must be acquired over a period of at least one year; work in excess of 30 hours per week over a shorter period cannot compensate for any shorter overall period of experience."

What I understand from this is that the time duration must be at least one year. Meaning that you can't work for more hours per week for a period less than one year and then claim you have a one year experience because you accumulated an equivalent number of hours.

Does it mean that if one person works two months say for 15 hours/week, then it is not acceptable because it is less than 30?

This would be acceptable if you already worked for one calendar year. Less than 30 hours/week is considered part-time. And continuous part-time work that accumulates an equivalent number of hours to a number of full-time years is accepted.

 

[GUL123]

My friend passport was returned without visa stamp after 6 weeks. One thing my friend did, he asked cic about his passport status after 5 weeks. after 3 days of his email to cic, they returned. CIc asked him they need some more time for background check.

 

[PhdStream]

What I understand from this is that the time duration must be at least one year. Meaning that you can't work for more hours per week for a period less than one year and then claim you have a one year experience because you accumulated an equivalent number of hours.

This would be acceptable if you already worked for one calendar year. Less than 30 hours/week is considered part-time. And continuous part-time work that accumulates an equivalent number of hours to a number of full-time years is accepted.

+1

 

[SJ2013]

You're welcome Changsun. My suggestion is to send them an email and let them know about your newborn baby. Birth certificate might be issued within few days. Scan the birth certificate (they don't need the original one) and include it in your email. You can also ask about mailing your passports. They usually get back to within few days. You can decide after receiving their reply.

Hope this helps

SJ2013, thank you so much for sharing.
That means I can submit my passport and my wife's, while I am waiting for the birth certificate (I just applied for a birth certificate today and it needs weeks to be received)?
OR do I need to submit the birth certificate first and wait for the further notice for submitting the passports?

 

[linux64]

Dear all,
My application was received by CIC in September 26 2013, and they returned my package today. There was a letter and a paper attached to that with highlighted areas.

1-In the attached appendix paper it was highlighted that Your attestation letter is not an original letter from the Canadian educational institution. Many of my friends applied with the same letter and they received PER. So I went to the graduate admission records office in my university and ordered the same letter again and they said there is nothing wrong with their letter.

2-I have applied with 2 years of part time RA and TA from PhD and 2 years of part time work from software engineering from my home country. However I don’t know if the returned application is also because of my work experience.

In the letter that I received it doesn’t mention any thing about my RA and TA letter and my home country work experience.

Here is a part of the letter I received from CIC. I appreciate any suggestions:

The application must be reviewed for completeness pursuant to Regulation 10 of IRPA. Moreover, Regulation 12 of IRPA states:
“If the requirements of sections 10 and 11 are not met, the application and all documents submitted in support of the application shall be returned to the applicant”
A review of your application indicates you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 10 of IRPA.
Please see the highlighted items on the enclosed checklist(s) and/or the enclosed AppendiX(es).
Work Experience: It is important you provide us documentation supplying evidence to show that within the 10 years before the date on which your application was made, you have accumulated, over a continuous period, at least one year of full-time work experience, or the equivalent in part-time work, in the occupation you identified as your primary occupation, that is listed in Skill Type 0 or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification (NOC). Your letter of employment must clearly give evidence showing that you have performed the actions described in the lead statement and that you have performed a substantial number of main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational descriptions of the NOC, including all the essential duties, for that period of employment. If your letter(s) does not provide us with of this information, you will not meet Regulation 10 of IRPA.
You should pay particular attention to all the forms, information, documents, evidence, signatures, proof of language proficiency, and fees required as per the instruction guide and document checklist.
Applications missing any of these items will be considered incomplete and Will be returned to you. In addition, please note that applications will be assessed according to the instructions in place at the If time they are received.

And there was another letter attached to this that states my attestation letter is not an original letter from the Canadian educational institution. And the my attestation letter was stapled to this rejection letter.

 

[cdhbamboo]

Dear all,
My application was received by CIC in September 26 2013, and they returned my package today. There was a letter and a paper attached to that with highlighted areas.

1-In the attached appendix paper it was highlighted that Your attestation letter is not an original letter from the Canadian educational institution. Many of my friends applied with the same letter and they received PER. So I went to the graduate admission records office in my university and ordered the same letter again and they said there is nothing wrong with their letter.

Probably, you letter is not sealed and stamped by university officer.

 

[sgtrigger]

It is a bit vague (as usual) and I am afraid that they can play with the words if the they wish to. I am quoting the paragraph here and make the doubtful one in red:

"Pursuant to R73(1), “full-time work” means at least 30 hours of work over a period of one week, and pursuant to R73(2) “work” means an activity for which wages are paid or commission is earned. The full-time work experience requirement for applicants in the CEC may be met by the equivalent in part-time, paid work experience (e.g. more than one part-time job held simultaneously or one or more part-time jobs held over the equivalent of at least one year of full-time work). Work experience can be calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full-time (or equivalent) paid work (i.e. 30 hours per week in one job, or a total of at least 30 hours per week in more than one job) in one or more skilled occupations at Skill Type 0 (Managerial occupations), Skill Level A (Professional occupations) or B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the NOC.

Work experience must be acquired over a period of at least one year; work in excess of 30 hours per week over a shorter period cannot compensate for any shorter overall period of experience."

Does it mean that if one person works two months say for 15 hours/week, then it is not acceptable because it is less than 30? The last paragraph, it says that anyways you should wait and apply after one year, it doesn't say that if you worked say for two years and a for few months it was 30+ hours/week they will cut it off to 30. However, again we must be careful because their interpretation of manual is time-demand sensitive.

Hi Anna,

we had a seminar by CIC people here in Edmonton. One of my friends had the same issue and the officer confirmed that if you work for 40 hours per week, it would still count as 30 hours/week. if you work less that 30 hours/week, you can count those hours to see how many hours of work equivalent to full time you have completed.

so for example if you have worked 20 hr/week for 6 months and then 40 hr/week for 6 months and if you add that all up you would count to 30 hr/week full-time and think you have completed the requirement

however, CIC does not count it like that. They would count as 20 hrs/week for 6 months and 30 hrs/week for 6 months...

 

[linux64]

Probably, you letter is not sealed and stamped by university officer.

My attestation letter was signed and stamped, and it was inside a university envelope and the envelope also was sealed and stamped.

 

[N_O]

My attestation letter was signed and stamped, and it was inside a university envelope and the envelope also was sealed and stamped.

Was it on the university letterhead? Signed and stamped with the university seal?

 

[Parkinson]

So I went to the graduate admission records office in my university and ordered the same letter again and they said there is nothing wrong with their letter.

Shouldn't you get it from college of graduate studies? Is it signed by dean of college of graduate studies?