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chenying3612

Star Member
Nov 11, 2012
90
8
rogelio said:
Hi guys,

need help. Do you think it is a good idea to include T4's into the application if I am going to claim RA as work experience? The catch is that my RA formally goes as a scholarship (graduate research scholarship) so no T4, but T4a. I know that this is still considered to be income (not taxable, though). My friend got his PR with no T4s in the application with TA/RA only. If I include them, will this screw my application? Has anyone done this before? Need your advice.
Do you have T4 or just T4A? I think T4A doesn't quite matter.
 

nasim2

Full Member
Oct 2, 2013
42
1
chenying3612 said:
Hi guys,

I was surprised to find that CIC just received 28 applications since May 1, 2014!

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp

yes, but it still goes slow. my friend posts his application on june 16th, still did not received the his file number.
 

paraview

Full Member
Apr 2, 2012
21
2
Category........
Visa Office......
CPPO
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06/12/2013
AOR Received.
05/02/2013
File Transfer...
17/02/2013
Med's Request
06/09/2014
Med's Done....
11/09/2014
Passport Req..
30/09/2014
VISA ISSUED...
14/10/2014
Even though T4A is non-taxable income, it still count as income. VO wants to ensure the applicant's "Ability to Become Economically Established" in Canada. Therefore it helps, I think.

Also you'd better have a letter explaining the situation that RAship goes to T4A as the policy of your university.

rogelio said:
Hi guys,

need help. Do you think it is a good idea to include T4's into the application if I am going to claim RA as work experience? The catch is that my RA formally goes as a scholarship (graduate research scholarship) so no T4, but T4a. I know that this is still considered to be income (not taxable, though). My friend got his PR with no T4s in the application with TA/RA only. If I include them, will this screw my application? Has anyone done this before? Need your advice.
 

paraview

Full Member
Apr 2, 2012
21
2
Category........
Visa Office......
CPPO
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06/12/2013
AOR Received.
05/02/2013
File Transfer...
17/02/2013
Med's Request
06/09/2014
Med's Done....
11/09/2014
Passport Req..
30/09/2014
VISA ISSUED...
14/10/2014
It's always quite empty during the summer. There are people waiting for the start of new academic year to claim "finish two years of PHD". Then peak reaches in Oct to Dec.

chenying3612 said:
Hi guys,

I was surprised to find that CIC just received 28 applications since May 1, 2014!

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp
 

rogelio

Star Member
Jul 12, 2014
101
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Nomination.....
23-12-2014 (PER)
Med's Request
23-02-2015
Paraview, have you done it yourself? I think the best proof would be someone's experience.

paraview said:
Even though T4A is non-taxable income, it is still income. VO want to ensure the applicant's "Ability to Become Economically Established" in Canada. Therefore it helps I think.

Also, you'd better has a letter explain the situation that RAship goes to T4A in your university.
 

paraview

Full Member
Apr 2, 2012
21
2
Category........
Visa Office......
CPPO
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06/12/2013
AOR Received.
05/02/2013
File Transfer...
17/02/2013
Med's Request
06/09/2014
Med's Done....
11/09/2014
Passport Req..
30/09/2014
VISA ISSUED...
14/10/2014
Believe me. I paid thousands of $ to hire a representative. Now I just want to share the lessons I learned from him to everyone here.

I provided T4, T4A, NOA for each year and letters (and more...)


rogelio said:
Paraview, have you done it yourself? I think the best proof would be someone's experience.
 

meyakanor

Hero Member
Jul 26, 2013
519
109
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013
AOR Received.
21-03-2012
Med's Request
21-03-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
I'm sorry, guys, my thesis defense is coming soon, and I'm busy preparing (and also looking for a job). I will get back to updating stuff afterwards. Congratulations on those getting their visas or medical request :) And good luck for those still waiting :)
 

cantaloupe

Star Member
Jul 25, 2014
157
35
Ontario
Don't give them an excuse to say "Oh I'm not satisfied that this money was actually paid to you for your work as an RA... It was just a scholarship, hence not taxable!". Bear in mind that putting tax slips is NOT a requirement for your application. I wouldn't try to "support" my application with something that might as well cause ambiguity. Those officers, at least by now, should realize the situation for graduate assistants in Canadian universities. Other people's experience shows that the immigration officers judge based on what you provide them with, in your file; not what they believe is true about your work circumstances.
This was NOT my personal experience though. The fact is there have been several successful applicants (on this forum and elsewhere) whose applications have passed eligibility without including tax slips or pay stubs.

rogelio said:
Paraview, have you done it yourself? I think the best proof would be someone's experience.
 

climate_modeller

Star Member
Feb 28, 2013
143
5
British Columbia
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012,4031,0121,0211
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-Apr-2013
Doc's Request.
21-May-2014
AOR Received.
17-Jun-2013
IELTS Request
with application
File Transfer...
17-Jun-2013
Med's Request
22-05-2014
Med's Done....
28-05-2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
not necessary
VISA ISSUED...
11-07-2014 (CoPR)
LANDED..........
26-07-2014
paraview said:
Believe me. I paid thousands of $ to hire a representative. Now I just want to share the lessons I learned from him to everyone here.

I provided T4, T4A, NOA for each year and letters (and more...)
Same with me, … I provided all of that and just landed two days ago.
 

climate_modeller

Star Member
Feb 28, 2013
143
5
British Columbia
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
4012,4031,0121,0211
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-Apr-2013
Doc's Request.
21-May-2014
AOR Received.
17-Jun-2013
IELTS Request
with application
File Transfer...
17-Jun-2013
Med's Request
22-05-2014
Med's Done....
28-05-2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
not necessary
VISA ISSUED...
11-07-2014 (CoPR)
LANDED..........
26-07-2014
Landed two days ago (Saturday evening around 7pm).

Aside from having to take a ferry from Victoria, BC to Port Angeles, WA, it was quick and easy. After the round trip ferry ride, we waited ~20 minutes while the rest of the ferry passengers went through Customs and Immigration. Then they took our CoPR and B4, filled out stuff on their computers, and told us we'd get our PR cards in 4-6 weeks.

We talked about the vehicles we're importing: one van and two trailers. We discussed that one trailer is still in the US and full of shop tools and will come later.

The only questions they asked were: 'did we committed any felonies" and "have we ever been refused entry into Canada."

All-in-all it was a very easy process and they were super friendly. But that's how the Canadian Border Agents always are in Victoria, .... maybe it's just an 'island thing.' ;D
 

aalm

Star Member
Jul 8, 2013
180
1
Sorry, lame question...what is "CoPR" and "B4"?
Did you need a US VISA to cross the border?



climate_modeller said:
Landed two days ago (Saturday evening around 7pm).

Aside from having to take a ferry from Victoria, BC to Port Angeles, WA, it was quick and easy. After the round trip ferry ride, we waited ~20 minutes while the rest of the ferry passengers went through Customs and Immigration. Then they took our CoPR and B4, filled out stuff on their computers, and told us we'd get our PR cards in 4-6 weeks.

We talked about the vehicles we're importing: one van and two trailers. We discussed that one trailer is still in the US and full of shop tools and will come later.

The only questions they asked were: 'did we committed any felonies" and "have we ever been refused entry into Canada."

All-in-all it was a very easy process and they were super friendly. But that's how the Canadian Border Agents always are in Victoria, .... maybe it's just an 'island thing.' ;D
 

paraview

Full Member
Apr 2, 2012
21
2
Category........
Visa Office......
CPPO
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06/12/2013
AOR Received.
05/02/2013
File Transfer...
17/02/2013
Med's Request
06/09/2014
Med's Done....
11/09/2014
Passport Req..
30/09/2014
VISA ISSUED...
14/10/2014
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers/before-border.asp

CoPR: Confirmation of Permanent Residence;
B4: Form B4, Personal Effects Accounting Document;

No you don't need a us visa. They will give you a rejection letter and you'll use that to land.

aalm said:
Sorry, lame question...what is "CoPR" and "B4"?
Did you need a US VISA to cross the border?
 

chakri264

Hero Member
Feb 28, 2013
243
11
London, Ontario
Visa Office......
Sydney, Nova Scotia
NOC Code......
Citizenship
App. Filed.......
13 October 2017
Doc's Request.
None
Finally My PR journey came to an end. Thanks very much to everyone who assisted me throughout the PR process. I have landed an hour ago in Sarnia, Ontario. I drove to the US boarder through blue-water bridge. I have a US visa so I had no problem to go through US home land security. I took a round about and came through the Canadian boarder services. The officer did not ask me any questions or documents. He just took my passport and COPR. After 5 minutes he asked me to sign on the COPR and said "You are a permanent resident now. Welcome to Canada". Thats it. No hassle.
 

kg.jadu

Star Member
Apr 25, 2012
169
28
paraview said:
4. If you have nothing above but just have a letter from your supervisor or your department. How could you expect the VO will not suspicious it at all?

In all, provide strong and as much as support document as you can. Otherwise questioning how many hours is "enough" or should claim is not yet as useful as cross your fingers.

Here is what's in the VO's manual:
"R76(3) makes possible substituted evaluation by an officer. This authority may be used if an officer believes the point total is not a sufficient indicator of whether or not the applicant may become economically established in Canada.
...
The scope of what an officer might consider as relevant cannot be limited by a prescribed list of factors to be used in support of exercising substituted evaluation."
Please do not mislead people. A strong letter from an adviser (or better, departmental assistant or HR officer) is absolutely sufficient to prove duties and hours. No one on my memory has been rejected on this forum due to not including non-essential documents such as T4 slips. On the other hand, I saw many people rejected due to the incorrect wording of the work experience letter, which is why we put together the templates.