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cantn

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Jul 20, 2015
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Maverickjo said:
Read the below to understand more about this "Leaving the province after you land"... hope that helps

Mobility Rights of Canadian Permanent Residents under Provincial Immigration
The right to legislate in the field of immigration in Canada is shared equally between the Federal government and the provinces. Since the Quebec government acquired exclusive rights to establish its own policies and programs in 1981, all of the provinces and territories have implemented their own immigration programs to select immigrants.
But what is the implication when a province issues an approval for a newcomer to relocate to its province and what are the obligations of an applicant to actually settle in that province?
Increasing numbers of applicants are applying for admission to Canada under a provincial nomination program (PNP) or through Quebec.
A starting point for discussion is section 6 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Commonly known as the Canadian Charter or the Constitution Act, 1982, it is a series of legislative enactments dating back to the birth of Canada in 1867 that provides Canadians with basic rights in relations with government at all levels and binds all provincial/territorial legislative assemblies in Canada including the federal legislature, the Parliament of Canada. Section 6 provides permanent residents and Canadian citizens with the right to live and work in any province in Canada.
Section 6 reads:
1. Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada.
2. Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right
o to move to and take up residence in any province; and
o to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
In immigration matters, the implication of section 6 and mobility rights under the Charter is significant. But these rights do not actually begin until permanent residence has been established.
Once a province selects an applicant, the federal department of Citizenship and Immigration (CIC) will oversee admissibility issues, including health and security. Upon landing at a Port of Entry (POE) in Canada, the Canada Border Services Agency will also ensure admissibility and this would include verifying the truthfulness of an applicant’s intentions to reside in a particular province.
Paragraph 87(2)(b) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) clarifies that a foreign national is a member of the PN class if they intend to reside in the province that has nominated them.
After receiving a permanent residence visa and appearing at a port of entry for admission to Canada, once admitted, there is nothing that can come in between an applicant’s Charter mobility rights to live and work anywhere in Canada. The provinces which seek to attract newcomers under their provincial immigration programs are left to create the right conditions to attract and more importantly, retain immigrants.
This has been an ongoing challenge for some of the provinces that are being used by prospective applicants as a “back door entry” to Canada, who do not otherwise qualify for admission under the federal skilled worker program.
Indeed, this has been a serious challenge facing Quebec which has direct authority to select 50,000 newcomers under all categories representing approximately 20% of total admissions to Canada. This is by far the most of any province.
Historically, and as empirical data confirms, the province of Quebec retains only a fraction of the applicants it actually approves. Many applicants often decide to forego their initial intention to settle in Quebec and elect to settle elsewhere. This is especially the case under Quebec’s immigrant investor program (QIIP) which has dominated the Canadian market of investment based immigration.
For other provinces including Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island which promote their own skilled worker programs, the retention of immigrants remains an ongoing challenge for provincial policy makers.
Applicants applying through a PN must be mindful of the requirement to maintain compliance with the program and truthfulness in the application process. The intention to settle in a province under an immigration program must be clearly present upon landing.
In the case of individuals where indications at the POE are that they no longer intend to reside in the nominating province/territory, they may be reported under section A44(1) for non-compliance with paragraph 87(2)(b) of the IRPR.
At worst, where it becomes evident that an individual never intended to reside in the nominating province or territory, this could give rise to an allegation of misrepresentation, pursuant to paragraph 40(1)(a) of the IRPA.
Canada’s 730-day residence rules are among the world’s most flexible. Applicant’s can theoretically leave Canada soon after becoming permanent residents for a period of up to 3 years while retaining their Canadian permanent residence during an initially long period of absence.
A Canadian permanent resident is thus afforded the protection under section 6 of the Charter, to change their minds about where they want to live and work in Canada. There are no obstacles or formalities for Canadians to change their province of residence once permanent residence has been firmly established. Government immigration officials at the federal and provincial levels are well aware of this dilemma.
Given the unpredictability that exists under the current federal express entry system, provincial immigration programs will increasingly become attractive entry points for newcomers to Canada. The provinces also face increasing challenges to correctly choose and retain immigrants.
Applicants considering an immigration project to Canada under provincial programs must do so while carefully balancing their legal rights afforded by section 6 of the Charter and the legal obligations imposed under the Immigration Act.

Are there any restrictions on re-entering Canada after landing using the same CoPR visa, but before receiving the PR card?
 

AAA2133

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zfe4912 said:
I think you are on the way, almost there! Be patient, I feel CEC inland is the slowest one.
Statistically it's the fastest route. There could be some exceptions though.
 

VPK

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Oct 23, 2015
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Hi..
I have a question...

We got the PPR last week.. I (PA) am planning to land next month and my husband will be joining me end of May.
Will there be any issues during the immigration for my husband?
 

nvnobre

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Oct 28, 2015
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Hi all,

For the ones who got the request to update the medicals how long after submitted you got the PPR?


Thanks.
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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VPK said:
Hi..
I have a question...

We got the PPR last week.. I (PA) am planning to land next month and my husband will be joining me end of May.
Will there be any issues during the immigration for my husband?
No worries. The only requirement is for principal applicant to land first or together with dependents.
 

fkl

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AAA2133 said:
Statistically it's the fastest route. There could be some exceptions though.
That's true. The only other program might have been outland FSW IN SOME CASES which was processed faster. Otherwise, in general CEC is the fastest program. I guess a good average is between 3 and 4 months albeit very few exceptions.
 

sharri

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Mar 22, 2016
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Hello All,

I am a silent reader of this forum. Yesterday was a big day for us as we got PPR email.
My timeline is
ITA: August
AOR: 21 October
Medical pass: 29 October
A4 request: 21 nOV
A4 and police certificate submitted: 21 DEC
BG progress: 18 March
PPR: 21 March :D :)
Category: FSW Inland
Nationalisty: Indian

I have one question. Our baby is a Canadian citizen as she was born here. Do we need to send her passport to Ottawa as well or just me and my spouse's passport is needed?

TYI
Sharri
 

vbmithai

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May 20, 2015
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sharri said:
Hello All,

I am a silent reader of this forum. Yesterday was a big day for us as we got PPR email.
My timeline is
ITA: August
AOR: 21 October
Medical pass: 29 October
A4 request: 21 nOV
A4 and police certificate submitted: 21 DEC
BG progress: 18 March
PPR: 21 March :D :)
Category: FSW Inland
Nationalisty: Indian

I have one question. Our baby is a Canadian citizen as she was born here. Do we need to send her passport to Ottawa as well or just me and my spouse's passport is needed?

TYI
Sharri
I don't think you have to send your baby's passport.
Seniors in this forum can confirm please.

Did you get any email notification recently before you got your PPR
 

feline44

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Feb 18, 2016
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fkl said:
Precisely until the expiry of medicals, assuming your passports are valid for longer. Else it is expiry of passport. This effectively means that COPR+visa cannot be more than one year from the date of eApr (AOR) assuming medicals done right the day before. Of course there might be exceptions. Some people might redo medicals while their application is in process or upon receiving PPR in order to get longer COPR if needed.
Thank you..
I might also consider extending the COPR validity since I have a few months left for my medical report (I have recently received my PPR).
Do you know about the process that needs to be followed for this? How should I notify CIC that I'm considering getting a new medical report?
Or is there another thread here discussing this topic maybe (I couldn't find one)

Thank you!
 

sharri

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Mar 22, 2016
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vbmithai said:
I don't think you have to send your baby's passport.
Seniors in this forum can confirm please.

Did you get any email notification recently before you got your PPR
Yes, I got an email on Friday saying thay my profile is updated and on Monday I got PPR email.
 

thatguy56

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Sep 10, 2015
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I called CIC just now and the person on the phone said it is not possible to give any information as the 6 months on my application haven't passed yet. That sucks.

Was anyone successful in getting any info by calling CIC ?
 

vineshparekh

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05-05-2016
thatguy56 said:
I called CIC just now and the person on the phone said it is not possible to give any information as the 6 months on my application haven't passed yet. That sucks.

Was anyone successful in getting any info by calling CIC ?
I have the same NOC as yours

I am Dec AOR and CEC applicant

I haven't heard anything as of now

Don't tell me you are also CEC Inland applicant as I will be nervous now
 

forbetterlife

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Jul 10, 2015
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thatguy56 said:
I called CIC just now and the person on the phone said it is not possible to give any information as the 6 months on my application haven't passed yet. That sucks.

Was anyone successful in getting any info by calling CIC ?
As I posted hours ago in this thread, I was lucky that one nice lady helped me look into my case and told me final decision not made yet and suggested me wait for a few days. Not much useful information, but at least I know the status of my application is normal, and no additional documents are needed. Hope PPR rain shower on us tomorrow. Good luck.
 

thatguy56

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vineshparekh said:
I have the same NOC as yours

I am Dec AOR and CEC applicant

I haven't heard anything as of now

Don't tell me you are also CEC Inland applicant as I will be nervous now
I am FSW Outland