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amarwah

Full Member
May 13, 2017
45
2
Hi ,
I have been asked to pay the RPRF by CIC now (didn't paid it at the time of application submission). Can someone let me know at what stage my application is. Is it approved? and that's why they are asking for RPRF fee?
However, they have mentioned in the request letter that "The admissibility review is currently in process".
Can anyone suggest the current application status.

Thanks
 

nazmulhoque

Star Member
Feb 21, 2017
142
64
Category........
FSW
Passport Req..
Waiting
Hi ,
I have been asked to pay the RPRF by CIC now (didn't paid it at the time of application submission). Can someone let me know at what stage my application is. Is it approved? and that's why they are asking for RPRF fee?
However, they have mentioned in the request letter that "The admissibility review is currently in process".
Can anyone suggest the current application status.

Thanks
Your application is likely to be approved. You are on a very good track. CIC asks for RPRF when the processing is almost done and the result is likely to be positive. If they were to refuse your application they wouldn't have asked for the RPRF, which is refunded in case of a refusal. Best of luck!
 

sweetosweeto

Newbie
Sep 18, 2017
1
0
Hello Everyone,

Is there anybody from April 2016 AOR who are still waiting for their PR??

My AOR is 2nd April and waiting. Ordered gcms notes. Passed eligibility, medical and criminality. Security check going on since August 19th.

Anyone in similar situations?

Thanks!
yes bro I have 28th april aor and still waiting after remedical
 

Otaya

Newbie
Sep 20, 2017
9
0
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2151
AOR Received.
29-09-2017
Dear @legalfalcon

Appreciate your help regarding my enquiry. My AOR 29th Sep. PNP-Outland, OINP.
My BGC is still Not Applicable.

1- I am intending to send a CSE regarding my spouse. Because he got a new job and traveled to Saudi Arabia. As he became a resident he will be able to get a PCC from there.
He was working there previously since 2014 but he quit and came back home by the time of submission, so we didn’t upload his required PCC from there as it only issues for current residents and that was explained in LOE.
After sending CSE, when it is reviewed and updated to my application??

2- In your opinion, when is the best time to order GCMS notes taking into consideration that I will raise a CSE??
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear legal falcon, what is the interpretation for R75 met and R76 review required

Regulations 75 refers to the FSW:
75 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the federal skilled worker class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who are skilled workers and who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada and who intend to reside in a province other than the Province of Quebec


Regulation 76 refers to selection criteria

  • 76 (1) For the purpose of determining whether a skilled worker, as a member of the federal skilled worker class, will be able to become economically established in Canada, they must be assessed on the basis of the following criteria:

    • (a) the skilled worker must be awarded not less than the minimum number of required points referred to in subsection (2) on the basis of the following factors, namely,
      • (i) education, in accordance with section 78,

      • (ii) proficiency in the official languages of Canada, in accordance with section 79,

      • (iii) experience, in accordance with section 80,

      • (iv) age, in accordance with section 81,

      • (v) arranged employment, in accordance with section 82, and

      • (vi) adaptability, in accordance with section 83; and
    • (b) the skilled worker must

      • (i) have in the form of transferable and available funds, unencumbered by debts or other obligations, an amount equal to one half of the minimum necessary income applicable in respect of the group of persons consisting of the skilled worker and their family members, or

      • (ii) be awarded points under paragraph 82(2)(a), (b) or (d) for arranged employment, as defined in subsection 82(1), in Canada.


So an applicant who is FSW not only has to meet the minimum CRS, but also the Minimum eligibility criteria, which is 67 points out of 100. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon

Appreciate your help regarding my enquiry. My AOR 29th Sep. PNP-Outland, OINP.
My BGC is still Not Applicable.

1- I am intending to send a CSE regarding my spouse. Because he got a new job and traveled to Saudi Arabia. As he became a resident he will be able to get a PCC from there.
He was working there previously since 2014 but he quit and came back home by the time of submission, so we didn’t upload his required PCC from there as it only issues for current residents and that was explained in LOE.
After sending CSE, when it is reviewed and updated to my application??

2- In your opinion, when is the best time to order GCMS notes taking into consideration that I will raise a CSE??

CSE can take anywhere from 1-3 weeks before you will hear back from IRCC.

The best time to order GCMS is 30-45 days post AoR. If you are raising a CSE, then you should do it immediately, wait for 3 weeks or until you hear back from IRCC about the CSE and then order GCMS notes. This way you will see the CSE reflected in the GCMS.
 
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Otaya

Newbie
Sep 20, 2017
9
0
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2151
AOR Received.
29-09-2017
CSE can take anywhere from 1-3 weeks before you will hear back from IRCC.

The best time to order GCMS is 30-45 days post AoR. If you are raising a CSE, then you should do it immediately, wait for 3 weeks or until you hear back from IRCC about the CSE and then order GCMS notes. This way you will see the CSE reflected in the GCMS.
@legalfalcon
From you experience, will they inform me via cic account message. Or just order GCMS notes after 3 weeks.
Another point, do I have to check my cic account regularly for BGC updates or I will be notified automatically??

Many thanks
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon
From you experience, will they inform me via cic account message. Or just order GCMS notes after 3 weeks.
Another point, do I have to check my cic account regularly for BGC updates or I will be notified automatically??

Many thanks
For the status change you will have to check your MyCIC. This is also where any communication, such as Additional document request will come.

For CSE you will get a reply in your email.
 
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ahsanemirates

Star Member
Aug 23, 2017
64
4
Regulations 75 refers to the FSW:
75 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the federal skilled worker class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who are skilled workers and who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada and who intend to reside in a province other than the Province of Quebec


Regulation 76 refers to selection criteria

  • 76 (1) For the purpose of determining whether a skilled worker, as a member of the federal skilled worker class, will be able to become economically established in Canada, they must be assessed on the basis of the following criteria:
    • (a) the skilled worker must be awarded not less than the minimum number of required points referred to in subsection (2) on the basis of the following factors, namely,
      • (i) education, in accordance with section 78,

      • (ii) proficiency in the official languages of Canada, in accordance with section 79,

      • (iii) experience, in accordance with section 80,

      • (iv) age, in accordance with section 81,

      • (v) arranged employment, in accordance with section 82, and

      • (vi) adaptability, in accordance with section 83; and
    • (b) the skilled worker must
      • (i) have in the form of transferable and available funds, unencumbered by debts or other obligations, an amount equal to one half of the minimum necessary income applicable in respect of the group of persons consisting of the skilled worker and their family members, or

      • (ii) be awarded points under paragraph 82(2)(a), (b) or (d) for arranged employment, as defined in subsection 82(1), in Canada.


So an applicant who is FSW not only has to meet the minimum CRS, but also the Minimum eligibility criteria, which is 67 points out of 100. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
Dear legal falcon , I am approaching 6 months in few days , I got a mail saying my application is waiting to be reviewed by an officer . BG still in N A for 3 months . Normally how many more days they take in such scenarios.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear legal falcon , I am approaching 6 months in few days , I got a mail saying my application is waiting to be reviewed by an officer . BG still in N A for 3 months . Normally how many more days they take in such scenarios.
The 6 months processing time starts when your R10 (completeness check) is passed, not from the AoR date. When it is said that the application is waiting to be renewed by an officer, it is at two stages, to finalize eligibility, and also after the security is complete and before PPR is issued.
NA, IP etc have no relevance, they just depict the status on your MyCIC account and not the stage at which the application is at.

All applications go through the following stages as per immigration law:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

Read more on these stages here:
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

Based on which stage your application is at, you made closer or a bit farther from the PPR.
 

Kuku_B

Member
Jul 24, 2017
12
1
The 6 months processing time starts when your R10 (completeness check) is passed, not from the AoR date. When it is said that the application is waiting to be renewed by an officer, it is at two stages, to finalize eligibility, and also after the security is complete and before PPR is issued.
NA, IP etc have no relevance, they just depict the status on your MyCIC account and not the stage at which the application is at.

All applications go through the following stages as per immigration law:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

Read more on these stages here:
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

Based on which stage your application is at, you made closer or a bit farther from the PPR.
Hello sir
I am june16 2017 AOR. Passed my medical on 15th nov.
I got my gcms note. On the page ofEE eligibility review in front of reccomdations: pass criminality. It seems they checked all police certificates
R10 is OK
But in the intial page under the heading criminality not started. N police certificate :0
Security not started
Can you tell probably at what stage my application is??
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello sir
I am june16 2017 AOR. Passed my medical on 15th nov.
I got my gcms note. On the page ofEE eligibility review in front of reccomdations: pass criminality. It seems they checked all police certificates
R10 is OK
But in the intial page under the heading criminality not started. N police certificate :0
Security not started
Can you tell probably at what stage my application is??
I am not sure what stage you want to find:


There is no such stage as IP1 or IP2. The stages an EE application goes through are:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

To read more on each stage see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

The IP etc is a creation based on speculation.
 

khubi

Member
Jul 8, 2016
16
0
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
Paksitan
Job Offer........
Yes
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Hey
I read all of it which you have written
Seriously i tell you its very helpfull
Bfore reading this iam confused but after i feel little relaxed
So sir my question is
In which portion of gcms is written that you are eligible
In my gcms
Application open
Security:process
Criminality:passed
And they received my application 6.05.2016
And iam still waiting
Should i order one more gcms
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hey
I read all of it which you have written
Seriously i tell you its very helpfull
Bfore reading this iam confused but after i feel little relaxed
So sir my question is
In which portion of gcms is written that you are eligible
In my gcms
Application open
Security:process
Criminality:passed
And they received my application 6.05.2016
And iam still waiting
Should i order one more gcms

In your GCMS notes you will have agent notes that will categorically state that you have passed Eligibility (A11.2). The eligibility takes place in 2-3 stages. First a cast analyst will review the documents and make a recommendation. Based on the recommendation the status of the eligibility will change to "Passed" / "Review Required" or not met. Then the officer will review the recommendation and make the final determination.

The two most important stages of an application are R10 and eligibility. If you clear these you are 90% clear.

Ordering GCMS notes is a personal choice. It does give you an insight into your application, or you can just wait it our.

How do GCMS notes look like you can see - https://www.getgcms.com/blog/gcms-notes-look-like-order/

Hope this helps!!
 
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