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phresh

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I have an issue that's bothering me....So I worked for about 3 weeks after my permit expired due to negligence on my part. (I thought I had FOUR YEARS on my work permit, when it was just THREE YEARS). do you think I shud still apply or no??
 

maniac2403

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phresh said:
I have an issue that's bothering me....So I worked for about 3 weeks after my permit expired due to negligence on my part. (I thought I had FOUR YEARS on my work permit, when it was just THREE YEARS). do you think I shud still apply or no??
You need to provide more information with respect to the time worked during your work permit. Did you work for 1+ year in the three years your WP was valid? If yes, go ahead and apply. If your work permit was expired, how did you remain in Canada? Did you apply for another one immediately before the current three year one expired? If you had no status in Canada, then your application approval will depend on the case officer.
 

phresh

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Aug 12, 2012
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Toronto
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CPC OTTAWA
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2282
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none
AOR Received.
9/10/2014
IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
Yes
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7/07/2015
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23/07/2015
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Okay!!! Well! I was in the process of applying under common law at the time, but when I realised my permit had expired. I sent my application ASAP Under implied status but cancelled my application.
 

phresh

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Aug 12, 2012
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CPC OTTAWA
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IELTS Request
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8/12/2015
maniac2403 said:
You need to provide more information with respect to the time worked during your work permit. Did you work for 1+ year in the three years your WP was valid? If yes, go ahead and apply. If your work permit was expired, how did you remain in Canada? Did you apply for another one immediately before the current three year one expired? If you had no status in Canada, then your application approval will depend on the case officer.

I had post graduate work permit for three years and I worked for 3 YEARS and three weeks. so I worked three weeks after my permit expired. do you think I should include and explanation for this??
 

maniac2403

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phresh said:
I had post graduate work permit for three years and I worked for 3 YEARS and three weeks. so I worked three weeks after my permit expired. do you think I should include and explanation for this??
So what's your current status in Canada? And are you looking to file under Common Law or CEC now?
 

phresh

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maniac2403 said:
So what's your current status in Canada? And are you looking to file under Common Law or CEC now?
I am applying for CEC from outside Canada. I should have said that. I apologise! I will be applying this week. So basically I applied under the Common law then cancelled my application and I want to apply under the CEC from outside Canada. So do you think I should include an explanation for working three weeks after my permit expired??
 

maniac2403

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phresh said:
I am applying for CEC from outside Canada. I should have said that. I apologise! I will be applying this week. So basically I applied under the Common law then cancelled my application and I want to apply under the CEC from outside Canada. So do you think I should include an explanation for working three weeks after my permit expired??
Aah, that's what I was wondering. :)

Go ahead and apply for CEC. Technically, your application for Common Law PR application has no bearing on your status in Canada. You will have to explain the oversight on your part for the extra three weeks. Anyhow, the three years is more than sufficient for you to get your PR application processed. But end of the day, it all will depend on the case officer, who might or might not overlook the fact, that you worked without status for three weeks in Canada.
 

phresh

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IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
Yes
Med's Request
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maniac2403 said:
Aah, that's what I was wondering. :)

Go ahead and apply for CEC. Technically, your application for Common Law PR application has no bearing on your status in Canada. You will have to explain the oversight on your part for the extra three weeks. Anyhow, the three years is more than sufficient for you to get your PR application processed. But end of the day, it all will depend on the case officer, who might or might not overlook the fact, that you worked without status for three weeks in Canada.
So I am taking a chance then?...Well! Lets wait and see what happens...I will just explain what happened in a letter.
that I only realised my permit was about to expire when I was about to photocopy it for my sponsorship application...at the time I thought I had one more year before it expired. I didn't realised it expired already. I hope it all goes well.
 

maniac2403

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phresh said:
So I am taking a chance then?...Well! Lets wait and see what happens...I will just explain what happened in a letter.
that I only realised my permit was about to expire when I was about to photocopy it for my sponsorship application...at the time I thought I had one more year before it expired. I didn't realised it expired already. I hope it all goes well.
Don't worry too much about it. Most likely, they will overlook the fact as the rest of your application is what matters.
 

phresh

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IELTS Request
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Med's Request
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maniac2403 said:
Don't worry too much about it. Most likely, they will overlook the fact as the rest of your application is what matters.
Okay!! so I should still write this letter though, right?? or you think it may complicate things??
 

maniac2403

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phresh said:
Okay!! so I should still write this letter though, right?? or you think it may complicate things??
That's your personal prerogative. But I will recommend that you explain the situation in a letter.
 

Yagerr

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I have different perspective.

It is really a matter of offence or not, and it really depends on the visa officer to determine if it is a "big concern". If i were you i wouldn't risk myself to mention the three weeks. Because different companies have different tax filing frequency, and it happens from time to time that employer files your tax late or even do a subpay for the work you did in the last period.

If i were you i would talk to my boss, if you guys get along well, explain the fact and if in the future CIC questions about he should just tell them the 3 weeks pay was just subpay from periods before or from overtime owed to you and the didn't work after that. If your relation with your boss wasn't good, i will still suggest not reporting the 3 weeks, it is only 1 and half pay period, it is not 3 months or even 1 month.

After all, the communication between cic and CRA is terrible, and CRA only has your record of your tax amount by period, i researched this a lot and i don't think CIC have very detailed information about your tax information, which would be the only lead to your work time. The decision on your CEC application is mostly determined by your reference letter, just make sure the period mentioned there is coresponding.

Good luck, bro.
 

scylla

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Yagerr said:
If i were you i would talk to my boss, if you guys get along well, explain the fact and if in the future CIC questions about he should just tell them the 3 weeks pay was just subpay from periods before or from overtime owed to you and the didn't work after that. If your relation with your boss wasn't good, i will still suggest not reporting the 3 weeks, it is only 1 and half pay period, it is not 3 months or even 1 month.
If he does this and CIC finds out, then it's a finding of misrepresentation and a 2 year ban from entering Canada. Bad idea.
 

phresh

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IELTS Request
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I am so confused! I have already written a letter though and I want to send this application out!!
 

canvan14

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Go a head with the letter of explanation. It's better you disclose that information now to avoid any doubts the VO might have in the future. You wouldn't want to take a chance to be flagged in the system and/or a two years ban from Canada. You might think there is a chance they will overlook this info but don't take the risk. I explained every bit of info I can think of in my application and all went smoothly. That's my 2cent for you, good luck!