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Re: A specific case (Brazil to Canada) Sponsorship
Ok.... many points to go through here:
1. There are three options for spousal sponsorship: conjugal, common-law, spouse. At the moment, you only qualify for conjugal. It is VERY difficult to get accepted as conjugal and you need to prove that you are unable to be become common-law or marry. I don't think you can prove this successfully as you have been able to enter each others' countries for visits and would therefore be able to be together or get married if you chose to. Even if you were to get married now, you would still have the challenge of proving a genuine relationship without living together or being together for very long... this is definitely possible but you will need to provide a lot of evidence. To apply as common-law you must live together for at least 12 months BEFORE submitting the application. One of you would have to be legally admissible in the other country for that long before this could be an option for you.
2. PR sponsorship is a serious undertaking. It takes a lot of time, effort and money. It is unlikely that you will be able to complete the process in less than a year even if you were married but pretty much impossible if you are not married now.
3. You being from Brazil does not have any impact on your ability to be legally married to a Canadian.
4. If you go to Canada and submit an application, you must be aware that there is no guarantee that you will be allowed to sit around Canada waiting until the application is finalized. You are still limited by your visa requirements although you can apply for extensions. I don't know the visa requirements for Brazil, how long you are allowed will affect whether this is a reasonable option of not. You would need to enter Canada as a tourist with a return ticket and proof that you intend to leave the country again before your visa expires. Also, should immigration want to interview you, you would have to travel back to Brazil for the interview.
5. You need to look into how long the process takes through the visa office servicing Brazil... that will give you an indication of what kind of timeline you are looking at.
Doug - this is a difficult process and there is no guarantee of success. 20% of applications are rejected. Conjugal applications are particularly difficult to prove. You need to go on to the immigration website and read through all the guides and see what would be the best option for you.
Ok.... many points to go through here:
1. There are three options for spousal sponsorship: conjugal, common-law, spouse. At the moment, you only qualify for conjugal. It is VERY difficult to get accepted as conjugal and you need to prove that you are unable to be become common-law or marry. I don't think you can prove this successfully as you have been able to enter each others' countries for visits and would therefore be able to be together or get married if you chose to. Even if you were to get married now, you would still have the challenge of proving a genuine relationship without living together or being together for very long... this is definitely possible but you will need to provide a lot of evidence. To apply as common-law you must live together for at least 12 months BEFORE submitting the application. One of you would have to be legally admissible in the other country for that long before this could be an option for you.
2. PR sponsorship is a serious undertaking. It takes a lot of time, effort and money. It is unlikely that you will be able to complete the process in less than a year even if you were married but pretty much impossible if you are not married now.
3. You being from Brazil does not have any impact on your ability to be legally married to a Canadian.
4. If you go to Canada and submit an application, you must be aware that there is no guarantee that you will be allowed to sit around Canada waiting until the application is finalized. You are still limited by your visa requirements although you can apply for extensions. I don't know the visa requirements for Brazil, how long you are allowed will affect whether this is a reasonable option of not. You would need to enter Canada as a tourist with a return ticket and proof that you intend to leave the country again before your visa expires. Also, should immigration want to interview you, you would have to travel back to Brazil for the interview.
5. You need to look into how long the process takes through the visa office servicing Brazil... that will give you an indication of what kind of timeline you are looking at.
Doug - this is a difficult process and there is no guarantee of success. 20% of applications are rejected. Conjugal applications are particularly difficult to prove. You need to go on to the immigration website and read through all the guides and see what would be the best option for you.
Re: A specific case (Brazil to Canada) Sponsorship
The visa is 6 months, I wouldn't mind applying for extensions. The thing here is that we do not want to be apart for another year or so... We want to start living together. Is there a way for me to go to Canada with my temporary visa, and stay there and even work there for that period of time? And just keep applying for extensions until everything is done? Also wouldn't mind travelling back to Brazil for the interview at all. I am only worried about work, I don't have enough money to sit for a year in Canada. And a working visa also takes forever and I have to wait over here in Brazil.
The visa is 6 months, I wouldn't mind applying for extensions. The thing here is that we do not want to be apart for another year or so... We want to start living together. Is there a way for me to go to Canada with my temporary visa, and stay there and even work there for that period of time? And just keep applying for extensions until everything is done? Also wouldn't mind travelling back to Brazil for the interview at all. I am only worried about work, I don't have enough money to sit for a year in Canada. And a working visa also takes forever and I have to wait over here in Brazil.
waitingintz
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- Jul 22, 2010
- 338
- 19
- Category........
- Visa Office......
- Pretoria
- Job Offer........
- Pre-Assessed..
- App. Filed.......
- 26-07-2010
- Doc's Request.
- 01-11-2010
- AOR Received.
- 28-09-2010
- File Transfer...
- 24-08-2010
- Med's Done....
- 22-06-2010
- Interview........
- waived!!
- Passport Req..
- 16-02-2011
- VISA ISSUED...
- 22/02/2011
- LANDED..........
- 19-5-2011 (hopefully!)
Re: A specific case (Brazil to Canada) Sponsorship
Doug - I understand that it is difficult to be apart, many if not most of the people applying are in the same position as you.
I don't know all your considerations so you need to do the research and find out what is best for you...
I would NEVER encourage anyone to get married just to expedite immigration - My partner and I fully intend to get married in the near future but we applied as common-law rather than rushing ourselves at all for the certificate. However, I don't think you have a change unless you are common-law or married. So unless you can find a way for one of you to spend a year living in the other's country, I think your only option is to go ahead and get married.
To spend a year together will mean either finding a job that will arrange a work permit for you or staying as long as your visas allow and then traveling back and forth and hoping that the next entry is not denied for any reason.
If you choose to marry and proceed with a spousal sponsorship... considering what you have said so far, I think your best bet would be to continue living in Brazil while you start the application. Depending on the timeline for Brazil, you could then come to canada on a tourist visa for 6 months and hopefully your application will be completed within that time and you wouldn't have to leave. If not you might have to go back and forth a couple of times but at least you could be mostly together. This of course means not being able to work for a period of time which is why i suggest waiting out at least the first few months in Brazil so you can continue at your job a little longer. Gives you a little less time without an income and increases the chances of the application being approved before your tourist visa expires.
That's the way that occurs to me to do it... I'm sure there are other options that other people can suggest. Either way, unless you can get yourself a student or work visa for Canada, you're looking at a longer term process that will likely mean being apart for some of the time.
Doug - I understand that it is difficult to be apart, many if not most of the people applying are in the same position as you.
I don't know all your considerations so you need to do the research and find out what is best for you...
I would NEVER encourage anyone to get married just to expedite immigration - My partner and I fully intend to get married in the near future but we applied as common-law rather than rushing ourselves at all for the certificate. However, I don't think you have a change unless you are common-law or married. So unless you can find a way for one of you to spend a year living in the other's country, I think your only option is to go ahead and get married.
To spend a year together will mean either finding a job that will arrange a work permit for you or staying as long as your visas allow and then traveling back and forth and hoping that the next entry is not denied for any reason.
If you choose to marry and proceed with a spousal sponsorship... considering what you have said so far, I think your best bet would be to continue living in Brazil while you start the application. Depending on the timeline for Brazil, you could then come to canada on a tourist visa for 6 months and hopefully your application will be completed within that time and you wouldn't have to leave. If not you might have to go back and forth a couple of times but at least you could be mostly together. This of course means not being able to work for a period of time which is why i suggest waiting out at least the first few months in Brazil so you can continue at your job a little longer. Gives you a little less time without an income and increases the chances of the application being approved before your tourist visa expires.
That's the way that occurs to me to do it... I'm sure there are other options that other people can suggest. Either way, unless you can get yourself a student or work visa for Canada, you're looking at a longer term process that will likely mean being apart for some of the time.
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