I think you have the wrong option selected. If you applied to be a citizen you'd be under "Citizenship grant", in which you'd be a part of the "lucky" 8200 still waiting.
2023 Citizenship Applications
- Thread starter GFLiam
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Jan-Feb 2024 applications are being processed but looks like Dec 2023 applications are skipped, seems like its the most unlucky batch.
Finally by BG & Prohibitions are completed by Jul-23, tracker updated on Jul-25. My AOR is Jan-8 2024 & application submitted in Dec 2023.
Aor november 2023, did my oath June 24th. Thank god this shit show of a process is over.
For @Keliwal
Depending on other aspects of your situation, and how important the timeline is to you, it is probably time to hire (pay for) a lawyer to review your case in detail, discuss the status of the application, and give you advice about what options you have. Among potential options, pursuing the extraordinary remedy of Mandamus relief is one, just one option among others.
But to be clear . . .
No one, not even the most experienced lawyer, can reliably say that "you should do madmanus" (assuming that means pursuing Mandamus relief in the Federal Court) based on how long the application has been pending. Significantly more information is needed, including information specific to the individual applicant, in order to assess whether IRCC has failed to do what the law mandates, which is a basic requirement to qualify for mandamus relief.
Given the timeline, there is something that has been holding up your application. It is difficult to forecast to what extent this (or something else) will continue to hold up your application. If time is not a key matter of importance for you, and you are confident there is NO outstanding reason why the government would conclude you are inadmissible or otherwise prohibited from a grant of citizenship for security or criminal reasons, it is OK to more or less just wait, making some inquiries along the way occasionally.
Contrary to common criticisms and unsubstantiated accusations, there are real factual concerns underlying delayed processing in the vast majority of cases bogged down for more than two years of processing (let alone approaching three). The vast majority of applicants in this situation know or can figure out what is likely causing the holdup if they objectively assess their case (even though the majority of such applicants, at least those who post in forums like this, often protest otherwise). After all, they know more about their case than anyone else in the world, more than anyone at IRCC or CSIS or CBSA. You know more about your case than anyone else in the world, more than anyone at IRCC or CSIS or CBSA.
If you are confident there is no cause for concerns you pose a security risk or that there is any basis for finding that you are otherwise inadmissible for security or criminality reasons, and you are confident that you met the requirements for a grant of citizenship on the day you applied, and that you continue to meet the requirements for a grant of citizenship now, odds are that in the not-too-distant future IRCC will proceed to finalize your application and grant citizenship, no need to see a lawyer, no need to sue the government for relief (such as pursuing litigation in Federal Court seeking a Writ of Mandamus).
How much longer is the question; and yeah, it is damn difficult to forecast what the timeline will be.
In that event (that is, if you are confident you qualify and are not inadmissible or otherwise prohibited from becoming a citizen), it is not for-sure, no guarantee, but you might be able to accelerate the process, be that through making inquiries or requests, or through actions taken on your behalf by a lawyer. The latter might include pursuing a demand, and if that does not move things forward, following through with a lawyer filing a Mandamus action in the Federal Court on your behelf.
Overall . . . unless you are willing to wait things out, it is time to PAY a lawyer to review your case even if that is just to get an in-depth asssessment based on the particular facts in your situation (time in process is just one factor among several to consider). A lawsuit in pursuit of Mandamus relief is more or less a last-resort avenue.
By the way: to the extent that some applicants are legitimately reporting IRCC has proceeded to finalize their application following a pro se demand or commencement of a Mandamus action, it is highly likely IRCC was near finalizing those applications, no demand or mandamus action necessary. Even for cases in which it appears a lawyer's demand prompted action by IRCC, many if not most of those were probably also nearing finalization anyway. But there are some cases in which continuing to hold up processing is unreasonable and a lawyer's assistance can make a real difference in the timeline.
Another Note: however unreasonable one believes IRCC's timeline for processing citizenship applications is (there is no shortage of condemnations on that score), that is an entirely separate question from whether IRCC has failed to do what the law mandates in regards to processing a particular citizenship application. Only the latter is relevant in making a Mandamus case.
Depending on other aspects of your situation, and how important the timeline is to you, it is probably time to hire (pay for) a lawyer to review your case in detail, discuss the status of the application, and give you advice about what options you have. Among potential options, pursuing the extraordinary remedy of Mandamus relief is one, just one option among others.
But to be clear . . .
No one, not even the most experienced lawyer, can reliably say that "you should do madmanus" (assuming that means pursuing Mandamus relief in the Federal Court) based on how long the application has been pending. Significantly more information is needed, including information specific to the individual applicant, in order to assess whether IRCC has failed to do what the law mandates, which is a basic requirement to qualify for mandamus relief.
Given the timeline, there is something that has been holding up your application. It is difficult to forecast to what extent this (or something else) will continue to hold up your application. If time is not a key matter of importance for you, and you are confident there is NO outstanding reason why the government would conclude you are inadmissible or otherwise prohibited from a grant of citizenship for security or criminal reasons, it is OK to more or less just wait, making some inquiries along the way occasionally.
Contrary to common criticisms and unsubstantiated accusations, there are real factual concerns underlying delayed processing in the vast majority of cases bogged down for more than two years of processing (let alone approaching three). The vast majority of applicants in this situation know or can figure out what is likely causing the holdup if they objectively assess their case (even though the majority of such applicants, at least those who post in forums like this, often protest otherwise). After all, they know more about their case than anyone else in the world, more than anyone at IRCC or CSIS or CBSA. You know more about your case than anyone else in the world, more than anyone at IRCC or CSIS or CBSA.
If you are confident there is no cause for concerns you pose a security risk or that there is any basis for finding that you are otherwise inadmissible for security or criminality reasons, and you are confident that you met the requirements for a grant of citizenship on the day you applied, and that you continue to meet the requirements for a grant of citizenship now, odds are that in the not-too-distant future IRCC will proceed to finalize your application and grant citizenship, no need to see a lawyer, no need to sue the government for relief (such as pursuing litigation in Federal Court seeking a Writ of Mandamus).
How much longer is the question; and yeah, it is damn difficult to forecast what the timeline will be.
In that event (that is, if you are confident you qualify and are not inadmissible or otherwise prohibited from becoming a citizen), it is not for-sure, no guarantee, but you might be able to accelerate the process, be that through making inquiries or requests, or through actions taken on your behalf by a lawyer. The latter might include pursuing a demand, and if that does not move things forward, following through with a lawyer filing a Mandamus action in the Federal Court on your behelf.
Caution: notwithstanding reports in forums like this that claim success suing the government without a lawyer, which reports are notoriously unreliable, a PR generally, almost always, needs a lawyer to seek recourse in the Federal Court, especially if that is about seeking Mandamus relief, which is not only an extraordinary remedy but is subject to strict procedural technicalities which make successfully prosecuting such actions difficult no matter how meritorious the case for mandamus relief is.
Overall . . . unless you are willing to wait things out, it is time to PAY a lawyer to review your case even if that is just to get an in-depth asssessment based on the particular facts in your situation (time in process is just one factor among several to consider). A lawsuit in pursuit of Mandamus relief is more or less a last-resort avenue.
By the way: to the extent that some applicants are legitimately reporting IRCC has proceeded to finalize their application following a pro se demand or commencement of a Mandamus action, it is highly likely IRCC was near finalizing those applications, no demand or mandamus action necessary. Even for cases in which it appears a lawyer's demand prompted action by IRCC, many if not most of those were probably also nearing finalization anyway. But there are some cases in which continuing to hold up processing is unreasonable and a lawyer's assistance can make a real difference in the timeline.
Another Note: however unreasonable one believes IRCC's timeline for processing citizenship applications is (there is no shortage of condemnations on that score), that is an entirely separate question from whether IRCC has failed to do what the law mandates in regards to processing a particular citizenship application. Only the latter is relevant in making a Mandamus case.
