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16th EE Draw happened on Tuesday, 8th Sept 2015 : CRS 459, ITA 1517

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They have only a play of few days in their hands. Now that they have no alternative than to complete the quota they will have to increase number of invitations to 2000 and this might take scores below 450..but below 450 at every point there are so many waiting so it will decrease gradually...Next draw if it happens around 18 or 25 the scores might go to 446.......and so don't lose hopes. there is no strategy to keep 450 as a bench mark or else no one would apply in 2016. If the rumors spread they don't invite below 450 than who will enter EE? they have to go down once in 2015 and it will go to 430 plus.
 

sajalsharma

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Hi everyone....

I have a question
I have just completed my education here in Canada and am now waiting for my pgwp. Right now i am sitting at 421 points without any experience.Neither here nor in India.So if by any chance cutoff points goes below my CRS score, will I be in with any chance to get an invitation provided that i have never had any sort of working experience.

Thanks.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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sajalsharma said:
Hi everyone....

I have a question
I have just completed my education here in Canada and am now waiting for my pgwp. Right now i am sitting at 421 points without any experience.Neither here nor in India.So if by any chance cutoff points goes below my CRS score, will I be in with any chance to get an invitation provided that i have never had any sort of working experience.

Thanks.
Nope! You need at least one year, continuous, full time or equivalent part time experience to be eligible.
 

sajalsharma

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rajkamalmohanram said:
Nope! You need at least one year, continuous, full time or equivalent part time experience to be eligible.
Thanks for your reply Raj
I just got to know about it.
 

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bestofluck said:
They have only a play of few days in their hands. Now that they have no alternative than to complete the quota they will have to increase number of invitations to 2000 and this might take scores below 450..but below 450 at every point there are so many waiting so it will decrease gradually...Next draw if it happens around 18 or 25 the scores might go to 446.......and so don't lose hopes. there is no strategy to keep 450 as a bench mark or else no one would apply in 2016. If the rumors spread they don't invite below 450 than who will enter EE? they have to go down once in 2015 and it will go to 430 plus.
May be there will be no draw now in september month...
 

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Seems to me, that unless there are some changes in express entry system, CRS will not drop below 450.

Here's my reason to believe that (http://i.imgur.com/4MqdAQz.jpg):



You can see, that no matter what is the delay between draws, the score is stabilized and artificially fixed onto score 450.
 

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quarko said:
Seems to me, that unless there are some changes in express entry system, CRS will not drop below 450.

Here's my reason to believe that (http://i.imgur.com/4MqdAQz.jpg):



You can see, that no matter what is the delay between draws, the score is stabilized and artificially fixed onto score 450.
yes... thats what the magic they are creating here in EE... each draw they are able to find approx 1500+ people with CRS above 450...

It seems there are lots of people who are dummy profile or may be they are rejecting ITA in one draw due to some reason and again getting ITA in coming EE draw...
 

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Don't go this graphs. If the don't go below 450 than people entering Express entry pool will reduce drastically which will be disaster for their system. So to keep the system rolling down they need to go down below 450 this year once....may be 430
 

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bestofluck said:
Don't go this graphs. If the don't go below 450 than people entering Express entry pool will reduce drastically which will be disaster for their system. So to keep the system rolling down they need to go down below 450 this year once....may be 430
It is not like we are blindly following these graphs and predictions on this forum..

but then one must observe the pattern that CIC is following in giving ITAs till now in each draw...

And I dont think that it will stop people from applying to EE....

Just wondering what may be the compelling reasons to do so???
 

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A draw on a tuesday... :-X Very surprising and unprecedented... ???
 

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quarko said:
Seems to me, that unless there are some changes in express entry system, CRS will not drop below 450.

Here's my reason to believe that (http://i.imgur.com/4MqdAQz.jpg):



You can see, that no matter what is the delay between draws, the score is stabilized and artificially fixed onto score 450.
Can you plot a bar chart, overlaying on the existing graph, showing days between the last draw?

Interesting graph, as if they wait until there are 1500 people above 450 joins the pool, then they do a draw. (remember every time a draw was done, there will be close to 0 people with CRS >450)

They have clearly set a glass floor of 450. This might change next year, depending on their target.
 

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Let's take into account:

FSW 53,500
CEC 20,000
PNP 45,000/3 = 15,000 (Let's assume that 1/3 is for express entry)

TOTAL PEOPLE = 88,500

Counting on 1.4 dependents for each principal applicant:

TOTAL EXPECTED INVITATIONS FOR EXPRESS ENTRY ROUGHLY 36,000 / YEAR

We can expect a maximum of 3,000 ITAs each month when program is running at full capacity. (Is it already running at full capacity? I guess yes.)

I am looking forward to seeing how many PR visas they will issue this year for EE on next report.

Source:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/annual-report-2014.pdf
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/annual-report-2013.pdf
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/annual-report-2012.pdf
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/annual-report-2011.pdf
 

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mf4361 said:
Can you plot a bar chart, overlaying on the existing graph, showing days between the last draw?

Interesting graph, as if they wait until there are 1500 people above 450 joins the pool, then they do a draw. (remember every time a draw was done, there will be close to 0 people with CRS >450)

They have clearly set a glass floor of 450. This might change next year, depending on their target.
My score is 453 and am waiting for ITA since August. I'm sure there are a number of people between 450 and 456 which was the lowest score to be issued ITAs since August.
 

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I think it is pretty hard to make any read on trends at this point, especially since the post mid-year report draw numbers don't provide the percentage of those above 600, so it is difficult to know how the pool below 600 is changing with each draw.

Additionally, there would seem be to be 3 pretty significant factors, in my opinion, that would affect immigration. The first is the election in October. If Conservatives are voted out, there could be an entirely different process put in place. Second is the economy, if times are getting harder for average Canadians, it would seem to make it hard to justify sustained economic immigration targets. Finally, the humanitarian crisis in the middle east which I assume will lead to an increase in the number of refugee applications being accepted which would tend make me believe that would necessitate a decrease in economic-based migrants.