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gagan_k

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I submitted a letter of invitation from my husband showing his employment letter, last years NOA, last 6 months bank statements, citizenship certificate and passport. I submitted all forms, purpose of visit, passport, medical, employment letter, last 6 months of bank statements, letter from employer showing 5 weeks vacation(NOC), return flight ticket and marriage certificate.

i got visitor visa rejected from NDVO for following reasons:

You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident.
In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:

Your history of having contravened the conditions of admission on a previous stay in Canada
Your travel history
Your immigration status
Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
Length of proposed stay in Canada
Purpose of visit
Limited employment prospects in your country of residence
Your current employment situation
Your personal assets and financial status
That you have a legitimate business purpose in Canada
I am not satisfied that you have answered truthfully all questions put to you.

options in red + bold are the one that are selected on the refusal letter

and refusal notes says :

Purpose was to visit spouse for 6 weeks.
They were recently married.
No previous travel to demonstrate compliance.
Applicant is employed with a modest income.
Savings have been noted.
No other evidence of assets in India which would signify ties to India to compel her return.
Applicant does not appear to be well established in her country of residence.
Strong ties to Canada.
Spousal sponsorship has been noted.
Not satisfied that applicant will return to India after period of authorized stay.




now I am thinking to re apply with more supporting documents:

1. PF statement
2. Gold valuation from jeweler
3. Medical insurance in India for one year
4. bank money transfer statements to my parents account to show that they are dependent on me .
5. appreciation/awards mails print outs.
6. rent agreement for one year
7. stating my salary hike due in purpose of visit letter.
8. all details about expenses costs estimates calculated with travel itinerary in purpose of visit letter.
9. this time I got leaves for 10 days so applying for 10 days not for 6 weeks.


Bryanna ,I need your valuable advice to reapply my visitor visa ,is above mentioned docs are enough to convince visa officer that I will return to India before expiry of visa?
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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Hi,

Based on the reasons for your TRV refusal and the GCMS Notes:
Your travel history: You cannot change this reason if you have not traveled abroad earlier

Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence: This is the key reason because you have a spousal sponsorship in progress

Purpose of visit: Again, this is linked to the second reason for refusal

Your personal assets and financial status: You can provide stronger financial proofs to overcome this reason



Here are my suggestions to prove you are *well established in your country of residence*:
Employment Ties
How long since have you been working? And at your current employment? Do you have an employment bond? Do you have an appraisal in the near future?

You can submit the following:
Employment letter + leave approval letter stating your job will be there when you return + Appreciation/Awards + last 6 months salary slips + ITR for the last 2-3 years + a reason to return by XX date (such as project completion, employment bond, appraisal, etc) + any company training that you are doing/nominated for


Financial Situation
Last 6 months bank statements (do not transfer money to your parents' bank accounts unless you are earning very well - which is contrary to the visa officer's observations)
Proofs of financial investments (FDs, RDs, mutual funds, shares, EPF/PPF/LIC/NSC, etc)
Jewelry evaluation (gold as an investment)


Family Ties
Do your parents live with you? Are they dependent on you? Do you have any other siblings - if no, you can mention your parents are dependent on you financials and for their well being.... so you must return to India.

For proofs that your parents are dependent: Payment for household expenses (through credit card payments) + medical insurance for your parents + utility bills (electricity, telephone, cable TV, property tax, maintenance charges, etc - especially if these are cheque payments from your bank account/your credit card)


Other Ties
Do you own any property? Either on your own or with your parents or with your husband in India? Or do you have a POA for property owned by your parents/husband in India?

Lease Agreement (as you've mentioned): Is this agreement for the place you live at? Or do your parents also live at this address? Do stress on the deposit forfeiture clause (if applicable) + lease tenure lasting beyond your visit + all your belongings left behind at this address

Are you enrolled for any study/training program in India to improve your career prospects? This will again prove that you must return to India

btw do you have confirmed flight tickets or provisional travel booking? You can say you fully intend to return due to your work commitments, hence you have purchased confirmed flight tickets and not provisional bookings


Hope this helps :)
 

JESUS2014

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Mar 10, 2014
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Hi Brayanna...

my mom got an email and sms message from bangalore vfs stating that the processed passport is back from NDVO and now Bangalore vfs couriered through blue dart on june 10th wed...we got the message in the evening on that day.my mom is based in kochi,kerala.Did not recieve the passport yet and they did not provide any tracking no.of the shipment..only available tracking no.is provided from the vfs bangalore when she submitted the passport in person..that is different than the shipment...and also they said we can track courier partner website for the details of shipment..but we dont have the waybill or reff no.When i checked the CIC website about the application status, says Application status : CLOSED and Decision: This application has been approved message.Only worried about the courier.Usually it will take 1 day only after sending courier from bangalore..is that normal..? without reff.no.can not track the status through blue dart...VFS usually give the tracking of shipment? pls advice..then only i can book her flight ticket...please
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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Hi,

I think your mom will get her passport tomorrow ie Saturday..... Blue Dart delivers couriers on Saturday too.

Do check gst8486's post on how to track passport delivery: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/visitor-visa-online-application-t258887.45.html


Don't worry :)
 

JESUS2014

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Mar 10, 2014
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Hi Bryanna...

My mom got passport with visa on 13 th June valid till 2023 that is the validity of the passport...I m soooo happy....I can not explain how happy my mom is....thank u soooooo much for ur efforts....u r always here to help everybody and find time to answer for any questions regarding the visa...sooo nice of u Bryanna...I gave u +1 again...

I strongly believe without God we can not do anything...in my case Jesus helped me...this is really a miracle..especially in my case there is no other option or no time for re apply...and I know my documents were not 100 percent...if u work for gud intention,God will grant for sure..u were a part of god's decision Bryanna....thank u soooo much..God bless u!!!

And I have another doubt abt my moms visa...wen we submitted the application we mentioned 4 months of stay only needed...because in my case u know that I did n't want to take a chance and ask for more than six months even I applied for super visa.she asked for June end to October end...4 months..and in my invitation I mentioned for baby's some of the ceremonies to be take place in India and I also try to travel back with her... Actually we r planning to go on the 7th month, that is January end...her return ticket itenery ( not confirmed flight ticket ) also showed was return in October..
1.if I book the return ticket is that ok if the date is in January?
2.Is there any cross checking with the dates (in the application) at the Port of entry?
3.And also for super visa she can stay up to 2 years in the first entry only? She get 2 year stamp or less for super visa at the time of arrival? I don't know the chances...
4.if she is travelling back before completing 2 years in Canada, wen she can return? Is she allowed to stay again 2 years or less?no need to apply again once the visa is valid till 2023 right?
5.in case they stamp up to 6 months only at the POE to stay like TRV even if it is super visa? Is this happend to anybody?

Too many questions..sorry Bryanna...3 more weeks for my due date...too many things in my mind...pls help.....
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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Hi,

I am so very happy for you.... this is such great news.... and it has come just in time because I think your baby is due around July 4th :) :) :)

Like you, I also believe that God works miracles in different ways.... and shows us the way through the people who help us

Hope you're taking care of yourself.... and God bless you and your baby


1.if I book the return ticket is that ok if the date is in January?
I would suggest that you maintain the original intended dates/thereabouts.... plans can change later

2.Is there any cross checking with the dates (in the application) at the Port of entry?
Difficult to say, so why risk it? As long as it is for approx. +/- 4 months

3.And also for super visa she can stay up to 2 years in the first entry only? She get 2 year stamp or less for super visa at the time of arrival? I don't know the chances
It all depends on the CBSA officer who assesses her admissibility..... generally, she'll likely get 2 years

btw you may want to prepare your mom for the questions that could be asked ie as per the visa application + she must carry all relevant documents in her hand baggage (in case she needs to show proofs) + activate international roaming on her mobile in case she needs to contact you from immigration

4.if she is travelling back before completing 2 years in Canada, wen she can return? Is she allowed to stay again 2 years or less?no need to apply again once the visa is valid till 2023 right?
Again, it depends on the CBSA officer whom she meets the next time.... she will be assessed for each visit separately.... no need to reapply for a Super Visa as it is valid until 2023


Cheers :)
 

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Very Helpful and fast response her. I appreciate for your kindness... God Bless you for your good effort
 

boltz

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gagan_k said:
I submitted a letter of invitation from my husband showing his employment letter, last years NOA, last 6 months bank statements, citizenship certificate and passport. I submitted all forms, purpose of visit, passport, medical, employment letter, last 6 months of bank statements, letter from employer showing 5 weeks vacation(NOC), return flight ticket and marriage certificate.

i got visitor visa rejected from NDVO for following reasons:

You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident.
In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:

Your history of having contravened the conditions of admission on a previous stay in Canada
Your travel history
Your immigration status
Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
Length of proposed stay in Canada
Purpose of visit
Limited employment prospects in your country of residence
Your current employment situation
Your personal assets and financial status
That you have a legitimate business purpose in Canada
I am not satisfied that you have answered truthfully all questions put to you.

options in red + bold are the one that are selected on the refusal letter

and refusal notes says :

Purpose was to visit spouse for 6 weeks.
They were recently married.
No previous travel to demonstrate compliance.
Applicant is employed with a modest income.
Savings have been noted.
No other evidence of assets in India which would signify ties to India to compel her return.
Applicant does not appear to be well established in her country of residence.
Strong ties to Canada.
Spousal sponsorship has been noted.
Not satisfied that applicant will return to India after period of authorized stay.




now I am thinking to re apply with more supporting documents:

1. PF statement
2. Gold valuation from jeweler
3. Medical insurance in India for one year
4. bank money transfer statements to my parents account to show that they are dependent on me .
5. appreciation/awards mails print outs.
6. rent agreement for one year
7. stating my salary hike due in purpose of visit letter.
8. all details about expenses costs estimates calculated with travel itinerary in purpose of visit letter.
9. this time I got leaves for 10 days so applying for 10 days not for 6 weeks.


Bryanna ,I need your valuable advice to reapply my visitor visa ,is above mentioned docs are enough to convince visa officer that I will return to India before expiry of visa?
Gagan, where are you able to see the refusal notes?

For your Q - it is clear to any 3rd person that the spouse may continue to stay in canada... Now, that does not mean a no no. It just means a bit of addl effort on you to prove the officer otherwise. So, importantly, take your time, think broad on ALL possible ties you can show for your home country... Plaxpc it all in a cover letter.
 

boltz

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Bryanna said:
Hi,

Based on the reasons for your TRV refusal and the GCMS Notes:
Your travel history: You cannot change this reason if you have not traveled abroad earlier

Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence: This is the key reason because you have a spousal sponsorship in progress

Purpose of visit: Again, this is linked to the second reason for refusal

Your personal assets and financial status: You can provide stronger financial proofs to overcome this reason



Here are my suggestions to prove you are *well established in your country of residence*:
Employment Ties
How long since have you been working? And at your current employment? Do you have an employment bond? Do you have an appraisal in the near future?

You can submit the following:
Employment letter + leave approval letter stating your job will be there when you return + Appreciation/Awards + last 6 months salary slips + ITR for the last 2-3 years + a reason to return by XX date (such as project completion, employment bond, appraisal, etc) + any company training that you are doing/nominated for


Financial Situation
Last 6 months bank statements (do not transfer money to your parents' bank accounts unless you are earning very well - which is contrary to the visa officer's observations)
Proofs of financial investments (FDs, RDs, mutual funds, shares, EPF/PPF/LIC/NSC, etc)
Jewelry evaluation (gold as an investment)


Family Ties
Do your parents live with you? Are they dependent on you? Do you have any other siblings - if no, you can mention your parents are dependent on you financials and for their well being.... so you must return to India.

For proofs that your parents are dependent: Payment for household expenses (through credit card payments) + medical insurance for your parents + utility bills (electricity, telephone, cable TV, property tax, maintenance charges, etc - especially if these are cheque payments from your bank account/your credit card)


Other Ties
Do you own any property? Either on your own or with your parents or with your husband in India? Or do you have a POA for property owned by your parents/husband in India?

Lease Agreement (as you've mentioned): Is this agreement for the place you live at? Or do your parents also live at this address? Do stress on the deposit forfeiture clause (if applicable) + lease tenure lasting beyond your visit + all your belongings left behind at this address

Are you enrolled for any study/training program in India to improve your career prospects? This will again prove that you must return to India

btw do you have confirmed flight tickets or provisional travel booking? You can say you fully intend to return due to your work commitments, hence you have purchased confirmed flight tickets and not provisional bookings


Hope this helps :)
Bryanna, how does POA (power of attorney, if that's what you meant) help?
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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boltz said:
Bryanna, how does POA (power of attorney, if that's what you meant) help?
Yes, I meant a Power of Attorney.... which gives the holder administrative rights to manage, rent/lease, pay taxes and maintenance fees, represent the owner at society meetings/government requirements, manage legal matters, etc..... depending on the clauses contained in the Power of Attorney. This means the holder has to remain in the home country for executing the scope of the POA in the absence of the grantor who may live abroad.

Some POAs can be limited to the scope mentioned above..... others could be a GPA (General Power of Attorney) that allows the holder to even sell or gift the property.

The scope remains a personal decision between both parties
 

JESUS2014

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Mar 10, 2014
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Thank u so much for ur reply Bryanna...

Yes u r right...my due is on July 4 th...only problem if I make flight booking, idan not change to a later date..it's not refundable I think....what r the documents she need to bring? She can not communicate in English ....also we showed a good amount in her account ....so for super visa, how much money she need to carry with her? I mean she is going to take a DD, how much minimum? Do we need to bring the same amount which showed in her a account?
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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JESUS2014 said:
what r the documents she need to bring?
She must carry Host documents + her visa application documents..... though there's a good chance she won't be asked for any of these, it's good to bring them along just in case


She can not communicate in English
I would recommend you find someone who can accompany her from Bangalore/Chennai to Canada.... perhaps, you may want to post a message on this forum for someone who is traveling on the same sectors


also we showed a good amount in her account ....so for super visa, how much money she need to carry with her? I mean she is going to take a DD, how much minimum?
My suggestion is do not make a DD..... you can buy a Forex Card from the bank where your mom holds a bank account..... top it up with maybe CAD 3-4000..... it works like a debit card but it is safer.... cheaper than doing foreign transactions on credit cards (which have an extra cross-currency 3-5% mark up).

You can check with her bank (otherwise Axis Bank/HDFC/ICICI/Kotak/SBI offer Forex Cards)

When she returns to India, the balance amount can be re-credited to her bank account at the prevailing currency exchange rates

She can also carry some currency notes (combination of USD/Pounds Sterling/Euro - depending on her transit airport + some CAD for her visit) in case she has a long layover and wishes to purchase something during transit


Do we need to bring the same amount which showed in her a account?
Do ensure the amount is not large.... please check the current RBI rules for taking foreign exchange out of India + if she brings >CAD 10,000 then she must declare it to CBSA


Hope this helps :)
 

JESUS2014

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Mar 10, 2014
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Hi Bryanna...

Ok...do they ask for the fund she carry? ( at the port of entry) so if she holds a forex card ,no need to bring another fund right? I will ask her to top up the card with 5000-6000 Canadian dollar..(this is enough I think) also is it possible to use and withdraw money from this card in Canada or any other place out side Canada? I think I cannot change the return date if I do this I have to pay extra..