It didn't turn out the way Canuck wanted. He's struggling right now
New Budget and PR processing
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I think we all want the same thing really - a magic wand that we can wave that will
- Ensure that genuine refugees get to stay in Canada as full PRs or citizens and their dependents get to come
- Ensure that there's enough housing and jobs for both the above folks as well as all the native-born Canadian citizens
- Ensure that funds are used wisely and efficiently in support of the above
The problem is this magic wand doesn't exist, and therefore some (potentially very painful) compromising is required.
Ah, okay. For some reason I had thought even this would be a problem (as it similarly is a problem in creating a pathway for current international students and foreign workers who can't meet the bar for EE draws to stay).
Eep. You're right. So from https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...pplementary-immigration-levels-2026-2028.html we have this text, emphasis mine:
> the Government is implementing a one-time initiative over a two-year period to streamline the transition of approximately 115,000 Protected Persons in Canada who are already on a pathway to permanent residence
Basically it sounds like the one-time thing only applies to folks who are already in Canada, thus excluding any dependents still overseas. I agree that the gov't is in a hard place now - I can see this getting quite ugly real soon.
Or... open enough spots to meet the current high levels coming in. But yeah, I agree the current mismatch doesn't make much sense.
Yeah but that's kind of a world problem. As per https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/figures-glance there are over 42.5 million refugees globally, so more than the entire population of Canada.
I love that Canada is such a great place and so welcoming to the refugees that come here. But it should be obvious that Canada's too small to take every last one of these deserving folks in.
A she but given nothing has actually happened and as predicted there is now outrage about hiding the one time programs I am waiting to see what actually happens and not what is proposed. Also waiting to see what happens with bill c-12. There is no good solution to solve the major immigration issues created under Trudeau gvt especially under Sean Fraser. It’s sad to see how much blatant racism has resulted from poor longterm immigration planning and how much the attitude towards immigration has changed in Canada. Wish the governent would just rip off the bandaid and make some very tough reforms. The faster that is done the faster things can get better and people can regain the trust in our immigration system. So far no sign Diab is willing or able to this as a minister.
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Yes there is a worldwide refugees crisis. Was referring to the volume of asylum seekers, refugees, protected people and their dependents in Canada or scheduled to arrive in Canada over the next 3 years. There is no indication that IRCC is trying to do any realistic longterm planning. There current target plans will just keep creating large backlogs and the system is costing a fortune. Based on current plans IRCC would have to keep doing “one time” bulk approvals every few years because they haven’t made adjustments to reduce the number of people coming into Canada. The math still doesn’t math. Also doesn’t leave any room for any other major humanitarian events/wars which isn’t realistic.
I am incredibly sad to agree with you on this point. But, agreed.
But one influences the other, right? If the worldwide crisis wasn't as bad, there'd be less pressure on Canada to take in, and thus it'd be easier to ask to reduce the numbers. As it is....
But of course there is also pressure - from certain voting constituents within Canada as well as international pressure from the outside - to avoid lowering these. As you noted earlier, this gov't is caught in a hard place.
Though I also am starting to lean on this being a case of funding. Canada has a total area of 9.985 million km squared, with the top half being 3.921443 m km sq (NWT being 1.346 m km sq, Nunavut 2.093 m km sq, and Yukon 482,443 km sq). So 40% of the area is in Canada's top half, but this has a population of about 133,033ish people (45,950 in NWT; 41,486 in Nunavut; 45,597 in Yukon) which is like 1/3 of 1% of Canada's population overall.
Canada obviously has space for lots more people - if only the funds were there to help Canada get those people settled in, into some of the more roomy parts of the country...
Are you still here after the new announcement? I thought you had already crossed the floor and become a Liberal. Lol
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Marc Miller DPLADö<ÄA>*X.com
@MarcMillerVM
Completely false. The budget proposes to give Permanent Residency to Protected Person.
That's people who have already been given protection in Canada by a tribunal and are just waiting for their permanent residency. Confusing asylum claims with protected persons is a dirty trick.
Michelle Rempel Garner # @michellere...• 1d
The Liberals allowed hundreds of thousands of backdoor economic migrants to make asylum claims after illegally crossing the border.
Instead of fixing the system they broke, the Libs are letting them jump the queue en masse to get PR over people who played by the rules.
Marc miller gave perfect reply to haters or manipulating people and we have some in this group tooo
Marc Miller DPLADö<ÄA>*X.com
@MarcMillerVM
Completely false. The budget proposes to give Permanent Residency to Protected Person.
That's people who have already been given protection in Canada by a tribunal and are just waiting for their permanent residency. Confusing asylum claims with protected persons is a dirty trick.
Michelle Rempel Garner # @michellere...• 1d
The Liberals allowed hundreds of thousands of backdoor economic migrants to make asylum claims after illegally crossing the border.
Instead of fixing the system they broke, the Libs are letting them jump the queue en masse to get PR over people who played by the rules.
Marc miller gave perfect reply to haters or manipulating people and we have some in this group tooo
One thing I'd add to this great response:
> jump the queue en masse to get PR over people who played by the rules.
By and large, protected persons - who have already been reviewed and approved - did in fact play by the rules. Because these people faced great danger, the rules are deliberately flexible to ensure that they get protection while their claims are under review. They thus aren't jumping the queue either - these folks are already here and here to stay; it's just a kind of weird technicality that they aren't immediately recognized as PR or PR-equivalent and have to go through another process to obtain that (albeit a technicality with very real and painful consequences).
