Timelines when gov. priorities shift?

[armoured]

okay will do. But I want to receive an email from Warsaw first.
The year will be on May 17.2022, what a great bday present for me

how exactly do they try to speed up the process? Do you know?

If you submitted in November 2020, then it is WELL over a year - the delay to AOR of six months is not your fault. (Is it?)

And do not delay to write to MP. Just do it.

How does it help? It doesn't always. But sometimes, it helps ... sharpen the mind. The visa officer holding a file will get inquiries from their boss, and if they have to pick up the file and explain why it's delayed, maybe they can just get it done and get it approved easier than asnwering the questions (and if they can please their boss at low cost by being responsive, why not?). And so on up the chain. (Whehter in direct requests or spreadsheets or performance metrics or Ministers' assistants calling around because the ministers are MPs, too).

MPs ask Ministers (who are their sort-of colleagues in the house), Ministers hate obvious issues, bureaucrats don't want their Ministers to be mad, and this is how accountability works (sometimes, as imperfect as it may be). And all MPs think that if they do a bad job of helping their constituents, they'll have a lower chance of being re-elected; and even if they dont' believe it 100%, many of them do want to help.

 

[Copingwithlife]

If you submitted in November 2020, then it is WELL over a year - the delay to AOR of six months is not your fault. (Is it?)

And do not delay to write to MP. Just do it.

How does it help? It doesn't always. But sometimes, it helps ... sharpen the mind. The visa officer holding a file will get inquiries from their boss, and if they have to pick up the file and explain why it's delayed, maybe they can just get it done and get it approved easier than asnwering the questions (and if they can please their boss at low cost by being responsive, why not?). And so on up the chain. (Whehter in direct requests or spreadsheets or performance metrics or Ministers' assistants calling around because the ministers are MPs, too).

MPs ask Ministers (who are their sort-of colleagues in the house), Ministers hate obvious issues, bureaucrats don't want their Ministers to be mad, and this is how accountability works (sometimes, as imperfect as it may be). And all MPs think that if they do a bad job of helping their constituents, they'll have a lower chance of being re-elected; and even if they dont' believe it 100%, many of them do want to help.

When I worked at ESDC call centre taking benefit claims whenever I received a call from a MP office that call inquiry was always escalated. Regardless of the status of the claim it was sent to a special que . That que would look into the claim and then get back to the MP office . Now this was for ESDC, but I was led to believe all the other departments operated under the same guidelines. MP calls,inquiry is escalated . I would never know what happened after that

 

[Phalos]

I do not understand IRCC's position on Ukrainian applications (PR/TRV).
On one hand, Trudeau announces these apps are going to be prioritized, but has said nothing about making it easier to get the application approved. The same criteria and onus of proof of ties for trv and proof of genuine marriage still apply as before, and we all know it is not easy to convince these Officers of anything.
Also, why Canada not accept Ukrainian refugees, but making them apply through regular stream like everyone else. Afghan refugees didn't have to apply for spousal sponsorship or trv to get to Canada....

 

[armoured]

I do not understand IRCC's position on Ukrainian applications (PR/TRV).
On one hand, Trudeau announces these apps are going to be prioritized, but has said nothing about making it easier to get the application approved. The same criteria and onus of proof of ties for trv and proof of genuine marriage still apply as before, and we all know it is not easy to convince these Officers of anything.

Actually I expect they will be less strict for time being about proof of ties for TRV. But I doubt that will help your specific case, and there is no chance that requirement for genuine marriage will be loosened. (Except maybe some exceptional cases liek people who have document issues due to fleeing war zones)

Also, why Canada not accept Ukrainian refugees, but making them apply through regular stream like everyone else. Afghan refugees didn't have to apply for spousal sponsorship or trv to get to Canada....

There will be some announcements down the line, and before too long; while speculation, I'm quite certain.

They'll want to urge the group sponsorship path (esp with Ukr-Cdn community) of course.

But the big thing is that Canada and EU and intl orgs and esp countries that border UA and are taking in refugees will be trying to come to some agreements about how to take and share burden. There will be money. I'm willing to bet that Canada will announce a big number, 100k minimum (timeframe unspecified).

Wouldn't be surprised to see some untraditional measures for Canada (visa free or light touch and possibly temp working permits). Maybe flight evacuations for those with family/some kind of sponsor. But speculation, still early days.

 

[Phalos]

Actually I expect they will be less strict for time being about proof of ties for TRV. But I doubt that will help your specific case, and there is no chance that requirement for genuine marriage will be loosened.

Are you trying to say that if I were apply trv it would not help in my specific case? what is your reasoning?

 

[armoured]

Are you trying to say that if I were apply trv it would not help in my specific case? what is your reasoning?

If I remember correctly, you believed (for cause i.e. interview) that IRCC had determined yours was not a genuine marriage.

If that's the case, I would assume the file would reflect and a TRV would be difficult to get approved.

If I've misremembered or misunderstood, mea culpa and ignore.

 

[Phalos]

If I remember correctly, you believed (for cause i.e. interview) that IRCC had determined yours was not a genuine marriage.

If that's the case, I would assume the file would reflect and a TRV would be difficult to get approved.

If I've misremembered or misunderstood, mea culpa and ignore.

Ok for the sake of argument. IF 100,000 refugees from Ukraine will be flown into Canada, but my wife wont because ircc thinks not genuine? whats the logic here?

 

[Phalos]

Also visa free, is visa FREE, regardless WTH ircc thinks about our marriage.

 

[armoured]

Ok for the sake of argument. IF 100,000 refugees from Ukraine will be flown into Canada, but my wife wont because ircc thinks not genuine? whats the logic here?

That if they believe the marriage was for immigration purposes (a sham), that's disqualifying for procedures where they'd check (eg TRV as spouse of Canadian).

Potentially (if it went that far) resulting in a ban based on misrepresentation ('immigration fraud'). Not saying the latter has happened but possible and happens in some cases (although I think you'd know and your circumstances different).

Also visa free, is visa FREE, regardless WTH ircc thinks about our marriage.

Sure, but that's my speculation and more of a long shot. Note also that ETA and what I vaguely [handwaving] referred to as visa 'light' still require some approval i.e. pre-clearance before boarding. Could mean no ETA issued (not saying I think so but posssible).

Note by visa light totally blue-sky - could just mean no physical visa. Which raises question of how visa waiver with ETA issuance is really different from "e-visas" of many countries. My answer is - not very much.

[Background: Recent interaction with friends/PRs in USA who got held up at airport with message to us that the green card holders in family needed visas, I was checking online and 'you don't need a visa you need an ETA' - and quite logically their resposne was what's the difference? Okay, it's an e-visa.

Actually there is a big difference in cost and complexity of application bewteen a traditional Canadian visa and an ETA but since the principle of not issuing physical visas exists (even if Cda calls it an ETA instead of an e-Visa), they could do away with physical visa for any country at any time.

Oh, despite the panicked messages, the ETA was done on a phone in 15 minutes and nobody's vacation was harmed in the formulation of this thought.]

 

[Phalos]

Potentially (if it went that far) resulting in a ban based on misrepresentation ('immigration fraud'). Not saying the latter has happened but possible and happens in some cases (although I think you'd know and your circumstances different).

Ircc does not ban anybody for a spousal sponsorship refusal based on marriage not genuine- that is why people reapply with more proof and get approved.
I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking generally.
Plus if things came down to accepting refugees, it would be a humanitarian stream and all they would care about is security clearance and medical.

 

[Phalos]

The only reason for a ban is misrepresentation like lying on an application about something specific like a previous refusal or producing a fake document, not declaring a dependent, etc, etc.

 

[armoured]

Ircc does not ban anybody for a spousal sponsorship refusal based on marriage not genuine- that is why people reapply with more proof and get approved.
I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking generally.
Plus if things came down to accepting refugees, it would be a humanitarian stream and all they would care about is security clearance and medical.

Okay. My points are simple: the IRCC announcements on Ukraine so far are only preliminary.

And whatever programs they announce will not please everyone.

Whatever the details, I do think the relaxations won't cover every case - esp those with refusals already - but I hope I'm wrong and specifically that you and your loved one won't have any problems (since clearly genuine).

 

[canuck78]

Yes, that's what you do. Most mps will have an office in Ottawa and also a local office in the city or towns they represent. Usually the local offices deal with requests from the people they represent.

I'd ask for two things - an update on your file and it's status and also that they request expedited processing because , well, you know the reasons.

Make sire to provide them timeline info IE your file is now we'll over a year.

I don’t thinkRussian applications will have the same priority as Ukrainian unless you live on the border. It sounds like you are both abroad if you are talking about your mother’s postal code.

 

[canuck78]

Ok for the sake of argument. IF 100,000 refugees from Ukraine will be flown into Canada, but my wife wont because ircc thinks not genuine? whats the logic here?

Very unlikely Canada would take anywhere close to 100k refugees especially when we are still trying to process 40k Afghan refugees. Maybe 20-40k. Afghanistan and Ukraine are very different situations.

 

[armoured]

I don’t thinkRussian applications will have the same priority as Ukrainian unless you live on the border. It sounds like you are both abroad if you are talking about your mother’s postal code.

No one claimed that there would be the same priority.