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Don't even read cicnews. Previously they posted that the POF update was a sign for FSW to be resumed. What a bull shit?! How can they even have credibility? Plus read the original budget, it did not mention anything about NOC-based draw. CIC news is not really from IRCC, is it?
No its not from IRCC but this really was the budget for 2021 and forward.
You can verify this on other websites as well!
And yeah pof update got everyone riled up so cic was no exception
 

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Best paragraph of that long read;

A Trudeau defeat would go down as one of the biggest miscalculations in Canadian political history. His triumph in 2015 was not only electoral: his uncommonly good looks adorned magazine covers around the world. Yet while he enjoyed an unprecedented honeymoon period, many Canadians feel he did not deliver.
It was a good read! Trudone is history….
Have we jinxed him? lol
 

Lc4life

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No its not from IRCC but this really was the budget for 2021 and forward.
You can verify this on other websites as well!
And yeah pof update got everyone riled up so cic was no exception
I reckon that in the budget it did mention several areas of improvement, and I think they are being implemented right now.
Things we see that correspond to the budget right now:
> Focusing more on female immigrants
In Afghanistan refugees, women and children are given more chances.

> Invite people who fit labor market needs in Canada
More allocations in PNPs. OINP has gotten more allocations, NB has opened new streams for nurses, etc ...

All other stuff are basically imagined by the cic writers, stuff like NOC code-based draws to fit labor market needs, etc.

Like I explained in a thread earlier, a NOC-based federal draw is basically impossible to implement. Just imagine inviting some healthcare workers in, and after the person gets the PR, he/she immediately switches career to be a programmer simply because that area is more profitable. Plus economic migrants have no limitations in where they wanna live, and there's a time lag between a labor need at a time and the time when the immigrant actually comes. It is totally possible that when somebody gets the ITA, the NOC is in demand, but due to the slow processing time of IRCC, when the person actually lands, his/her NOC is no longer in demand. That scheme to meet labor market need will basically get thrown down the toilet.

Plus, if they want to change the EE system, CEC won't be able to avoid that as well. If they shift to schemes like Australia or New Zealand, that would basically make Canada un-immigratable.

All I'm saying is that whatever is in the budget means that they allocate money for that, but that has nothing to do with an overhaul of the express entry system. Anyone who predicted a draw based on the POF update has basically lost credibility. So, don't read CIC news! They are BS!
 
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Thanks. I am learning French but the progress has been slow.

I have been applying for 2-3 jobs everyday and gotten many interviews. They all bail out once they hear I need a work permit. :(
It's amazing that you're actually getting interviews though. Once you get the french under your belt, you'll be lmia exempt and you'll be good to go. It's only a matter of time for you. Losing points in a month for age won't matter when you have a 500+ score. Good luck
 
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It is not as easy as you said. I'm also eligible for francophone mobilité work permit. The situation is that: (1) Internation mobility program work permit takes a long time to get approval. (2) If you're applying from a country that does not speak French (in my case the USA), it's way harder to convince visa officer to issue FM work permit despite excellent TEF results. Also it's likely that you'll be interviewed at port of entry so that they are satisfied that you speak French well.

Apart from the two points mentioned above, it's actually hard to learn French. I didn't start from scratch, but it also took me 9 months part-time learning (almost 25 hrs) per week to score CLB 9. French route is NOT for everyone.
At no point did I say it was easy though. I said accessible. It's a valid path of entry that you have access to even if you aren't eligible for FSW. I don't know what the actual timelines are, but anecdotally, I've only heard it being processed in 2-3 months.

What you said about convincing visa officers, I don't know. The program eligibility says if you dont come from a place where you speak french habitually, you "may be asked to provide exam results".

We can throw anecdotes at each other all day long, but at the end of the day, you can either choose to put in the work, or not. Even if the francophone mobility program isn;t viable, nclc7 gives you 60+ points. Losing 5 points for age is meaningless at that point. If nothing else you're guaranteed an ITA if and when fsw returns. And if you say you can't get to nclc7 (of course 9 will be more difficult, but it's not required) in french from scratch in 1 year, then i don't know what to say.
 
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New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far The C.1.2 variant first detected in South Africa is more mutated compared to the original virus than any other known variant.
A new coronavirus variant, C.1.2, has been detected in South Africa and a number of other countries, with concerns that it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform. The study is awaiting peer review.

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising as C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially" compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than any other Variant of Concern (VOC) or Variant of Interest (VOI) detected so far worldwide.

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.



The scientists believe that the number of available sequences of C.1.2 may be an underrepresentation of the spread and frequency of the variant in South Africa and around the world. The study found consistent increases in the number of C.1.2 genomes in South Africa on a monthly basis, rising from 0.2% of genomes sequenced in May to 1.6% in June and then to 2% in July, similar to the increases seen with the Beta and Delta variants there.

The study also found that the C.1.2 lineage has a mutation rate of about 41.8 mutations per year, which is nearly twice as fast as the current global mutation rate of the other variants. The scientists stated that this short period of increased evolution was also seen with the Alpha, Beta and Gamma variants, suggesting that a single event, followed by a spike in cases, drove faster mutation rates.

More than half of the C.1.2 sequences have 14 mutations, but additional mutations have been noticed in some of the sequences, suggesting that evolution within the lineage is ongoing, according to the study.

More than half (about 52%) of the mutations in the spike region of the C.1.2 sequences have previously been seen in other VOCs and VOIs. The mutations N440K and Y449H, which have been associated with escape from certain antibodies, have also been noticed in C.1.2 sequences. The scientists stressed that the combination of these mutations, as well as changes in other parts of the virus, likely help the virus evade antibodies and immune responses, including in patients who have already been infected with the Alpha or Beta variants.

The scientists added that further work is required to understand the exact impact of these mutations and to see if they give the variant a competitive advantage over the Delta variant.



The study comes as a doctor in Turkey reported indications that a new coronavirus variant had been detected in the country, with tests detecting mutations that weren't found in the current variants named by the World Health Organization (WHO).

Dr. Lütfi Çamlı told Turkish media that while tests were conducted to detect the presence of variants around Turkey, doctors found a new variant with no connection to the other variants, reaching a rate of about 50%-60% of cases in the northern province of Rize. Çamlı stressed, however, that it is still unclear whether they have actually found a new variant or if it was just the result of false negativity in PCR tests.

The doctor additionally stressed that it is normal for new mutations to emerge in an epidemic and that the mutations recently found in Turkey may not have any serious effect on how the virus functions. Çamlı called for further research and for the results of genomic tests of the samples carried out in Ankara to be released to the public.

As of last Wednesday, the WHO had identified four VOCs and four VOIs. As of last Thursday, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) had identified five and six respectively. A number of other variants have been designated for further monitoring.
 

shanusharma01

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I reckon that in the budget it did mention several areas of improvement, and I think they are being implemented right now.
Things we see that correspond to the budget right now:
> Focusing more on female immigrants
In Afghanistan refugees, women and children are given more chances.

> Invite people who fit labor market needs in Canada
More allocations in PNPs. OINP has gotten more allocations, NB has opened new streams for nurses, etc ...

All other stuff are basically imagined by the cic writers, stuff like NOC code-based draws to fit labor market needs, etc.

Like I explained in a thread earlier, a NOC-based federal draw is basically impossible to implement. Just imagine inviting some healthcare workers in, and after the person gets the PR, he/she immediately switches career to be a programmer simply because that area is more profitable. Plus economic migrants have no limitations in where they wanna live, and there's a time lag between a labor need at a time and the time when the immigrant actually comes. It is totally possible that when somebody gets the ITA, the NOC is in demand, but due to the slow processing time of IRCC, when the person actually lands, his/her NOC is no longer in demand. That scheme to meet labor market need will basically get thrown down the toilet.

Plus, if they want to change the EE system, CEC won't be able to avoid that as well. If they shift to schemes like Australia or New Zealand, that would basically make Canada un-immigratable.

All I'm saying is that whatever is in the budget means that they allocate money for that, but that has nothing to do with an overhaul of the express entry system. Anyone who predicted a draw based on the POF update has basically lost credibility. So, don't read CIC news! They are BS!
I do agree but all the uncertainty around fsw has not helped the case though.People like us have been eagerly waiting for a draw to happen!

Btw there were discussions around the web thatthe changes to ee might bring things like occupation not required nocs the way sinp works!
This would break many immigration dreams
 

Lc4life

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I do agree but all the uncertainty around fsw has not helped the case though.People like us have been eagerly waiting for a draw to happen!

Btw there were discussions around the web thatthe changes to ee might bring things like occupation not required nocs the way sinp works!
This would break many immigration dreams
Like I said, an implementation of NOC based system on a federal level would be detrimental. If that's the case, CEC would be scraped as well. Then the only solution is to immigrate to some other countries.

There is uncertainty around FSW, I have no doubt, and I don't see how it will be resumed in 2021 honestly. But there's no way that the EE system will be changed completely merely from a budget and an election.
 

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Imagine a developed country canceling pending applications of applicants from its worldwide popular PR program because they lack resource to process the applications. The world will laugh at Canadian immigration agency. Its not happening. No point in even having this negative argument.
True.. and spreading rumours can only hurt somebody who is reading this forum n might have a bad day coz of it
 

shanusharma01

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Like I said, an implementation of NOC based system on a federal level would be detrimental. If that's the case, CEC would be scraped as well. Then the only solution is to immigrate to some other countries.

There is uncertainty around FSW, I have no doubt, and I don't see how it will be resumed in 2021 honestly. But there's no way that the EE system will be changed completely merely from a budget and an election.
Yeah! It was just an allocation of budget but whatever the changes are might take a while to implement not saying they will be in action soon but surely a sign of things to come in the near future
 

Lc4life

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At no point did I say it was easy though. I said accessible. It's a valid path of entry that you have access to even if you aren't eligible for FSW. I don't know what the actual timelines are, but anecdotally, I've only heard it being processed in 2-3 months.

What you said about convincing visa officers, I don't know. The program eligibility says if you dont come from a place where you speak french habitually, you "may be asked to provide exam results".

We can throw anecdotes at each other all day long, but at the end of the day, you can either choose to put in the work, or not. Even if the francophone mobility program isn;t viable, nclc7 gives you 60+ points. Losing 5 points for age is meaningless at that point. If nothing else you're guaranteed an ITA if and when fsw returns. And if you say you can't get to nclc7 (of course 9 will be more difficult, but it's not required) in french from scratch in 1 year, then i don't know what to say.
>nclc7 gives you 60+ points.
How do you know next year the bonus scheme still exists?

>And if you say you can't get to nclc7 (of course 9 will be more difficult, but it's not required) in french from scratch in 1 year, then i don't know what to say.
You do realize that people have a life, may need to work, have a family to attend to right? It also depends on what your mother tongue is. For me my mother tongue is close enough to French, so that was an advantage.
 
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New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far The C.1.2 variant first detected in South Africa is more mutated compared to the original virus than any other known variant.
A new coronavirus variant, C.1.2, has been detected in South Africa and a number of other countries, with concerns that it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform. The study is awaiting peer review.

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising as C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially" compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than any other Variant of Concern (VOC) or Variant of Interest (VOI) detected so far worldwide.

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.



The scientists believe that the number of available sequences of C.1.2 may be an underrepresentation of the spread and frequency of the variant in South Africa and around the world. The study found consistent increases in the number of C.1.2 genomes in South Africa on a monthly basis, rising from 0.2% of genomes sequenced in May to 1.6% in June and then to 2% in July, similar to the increases seen with the Beta and Delta variants there.

The study also found that the C.1.2 lineage has a mutation rate of about 41.8 mutations per year, which is nearly twice as fast as the current global mutation rate of the other variants. The scientists stated that this short period of increased evolution was also seen with the Alpha, Beta and Gamma variants, suggesting that a single event, followed by a spike in cases, drove faster mutation rates.

More than half of the C.1.2 sequences have 14 mutations, but additional mutations have been noticed in some of the sequences, suggesting that evolution within the lineage is ongoing, according to the study.

More than half (about 52%) of the mutations in the spike region of the C.1.2 sequences have previously been seen in other VOCs and VOIs. The mutations N440K and Y449H, which have been associated with escape from certain antibodies, have also been noticed in C.1.2 sequences. The scientists stressed that the combination of these mutations, as well as changes in other parts of the virus, likely help the virus evade antibodies and immune responses, including in patients who have already been infected with the Alpha or Beta variants.

The scientists added that further work is required to understand the exact impact of these mutations and to see if they give the variant a competitive advantage over the Delta variant.



The study comes as a doctor in Turkey reported indications that a new coronavirus variant had been detected in the country, with tests detecting mutations that weren't found in the current variants named by the World Health Organization (WHO).

Dr. Lütfi Çamlı told Turkish media that while tests were conducted to detect the presence of variants around Turkey, doctors found a new variant with no connection to the other variants, reaching a rate of about 50%-60% of cases in the northern province of Rize. Çamlı stressed, however, that it is still unclear whether they have actually found a new variant or if it was just the result of false negativity in PCR tests.

The doctor additionally stressed that it is normal for new mutations to emerge in an epidemic and that the mutations recently found in Turkey may not have any serious effect on how the virus functions. Çamlı called for further research and for the results of genomic tests of the samples carried out in Ankara to be released to the public.

As of last Wednesday, the WHO had identified four VOCs and four VOIs. As of last Thursday, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) had identified five and six respectively. A number of other variants have been designated for further monitoring.
Lol "most mutated variant". It's not hard to see what's next. "Vaccines need to be updated". "Booster shots". And of course, lockdowns after xyz% of the population is vaccinated with the booster shots. Come convince me covid is not a project to milk the world's people for their tax money.
 

shanusharma01

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Lol "most mutated variant". It's not hard to see what's next. "Vaccines need to be updated". "Booster shots". And of course, lockdowns after xyz% of the population is vaccinated with the booster shots. Come convince me covid is not a project to milk the world's people for their tax money.
Not to mention the gazillions of dollars being harvested by conglomerate pharmaceuticals in the name of coughvid-19
 

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It's unbelieve that the minister of immigration has not once said a word of FSW in 8 whole months. They played dead and completely ignored us like we don't even exist. We understand how a conservative government could affect immigration but after being treated like we don't exist for almost a year, we don't have much to lose here. We've seen that liberals also don't want us, so we might as well hope to see a different party in power and see how it goes.

yes a flip in government will hinder the PR processing and FSW draws for several more months. After waiting for so long for travel opening it will be great to wait another several month for PPR. But hey we will see Trudy lose what else we need. It seems like this group is becoming a more Politically influenced group than an immigration group.
 
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>nclc7 gives you 60+ points.
How do you know next year the bonus scheme still exists?

>And if you say you can't get to nclc7 (of course 9 will be more difficult, but it's not required) in french from scratch in 1 year, then i don't know what to say.
You do realize that people have a life, may need to work, have a family to attend to right? It also depends on what your mother tongue is. For me my mother tongue is close enough to French, so that was an advantage.
Point is that it exists now, and you should take advantage of it while it lasts right? Previously, the bonus was 25 points, so that's about 32 points for nclc7. Even if they revert the bonus to 25, you still have an absurdly high score.

Yes people have a life. What's the alternative? Sit on forums and complain about how unfair it is, or pay 100k to buy a PR, which by the way would also take 3 years. My mother tongue has nothing to do with french, technically english, so i guess a little related, but I got an nclc7 in about 8-9 months, while working fulltime and working on side projects. The person who 'inspired' me to learn was someone on these forums who was working as a nurse, was a mother to a baby, and did it in 6 months, age 35 I think. After reading her story, I realized that all my excuses are just that. Excuses. And look these are just anecdotes, but believe me, nclc7 is straightforward to achieve. I'm not saying it's easy, but the path is simple and straightforward. Someone can choose to not learn it for whatever reason, but that's a missed opportunity on their part. Outside of this, I don't buy any of the usual excuses to language learning I see everywhere.