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study permit rejection 2nd time -- Need help, Fall intake

rachel0309

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Apr 30, 2021
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Hey guys,
I am Rachel from Malaysia. I have been rejected two times for my study permit application and the reasons are as follow:
1) based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence. -- I have explained in my cover letter that even though I am Malaysian but I have spent most of my time overseas working in China. I am the legal person and CEO of a company(even though the business is hardly sustainable due to the pandemic, that is the reason why I think taking a gap year to pursue an MBA program is good for my company and my personal development). Also, I own a property in China and yet I still can't prove the officer I would leave Canada at the end of my study.
2) based on the purpose of your visit -- pursue an MBA degree. I have double degrees in Biomedical Sciences and Traditional Chinese Medicine but I have worked in financial and business industry for over 5 years. I am not applying for a diploma, but a master's degree in business.
3) based on your current employment situation -- I have provided my China company statement to prove that I am the CEO of the company.

I am not registered through SDS as Malaysian is not SDS program.
I heard the success rate for a study permit this year is quite tricky.
May I know what shall I do next? I have prepared 9 months for my GMAT exam and my MBA application but because of the study permit, I might have to give up on pursuing the degree.
Could anyone please advise me?
Thanks!
 

fritchou

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Hey guys,
I am Rachel from Malaysia. I have been rejected two times for my study permit application and the reasons are as follow:
1) based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence. -- I have explained in my cover letter that even though I am Malaysian but I have spent most of my time overseas working in China. I am the legal person and CEO of a company(even though the business is hardly sustainable due to the pandemic, that is the reason why I think taking a gap year to pursue an MBA program is good for my company and my personal development). Also, I own a property in China and yet I still can't prove the officer I would leave Canada at the end of my study.
2) based on the purpose of your visit -- pursue an MBA degree. I have double degrees in Biomedical Sciences and Traditional Chinese Medicine but I have worked in financial and business industry for over 5 years. I am not applying for a diploma, but a master's degree in business.
3) based on your current employment situation -- I have provided my China company statement to prove that I am the CEO of the company.

I am not registered through SDS as Malaysian is not SDS program.
I heard the success rate for a study permit this year is quite tricky.
May I know what shall I do next? I have prepared 9 months for my GMAT exam and my MBA application but because of the study permit, I might have to give up on pursuing the degree.
Could anyone please advise me?
Thanks!
i see your temporary status in china rose concerns for Vo or at least i think so.

get GCMS note and understand why u get rejected then defer your program and make a better application.

reading your profile and i no expert i had this question in my head " why A CEO of company and already established person would like to purse education in Canada ? people usually get MBA to become CEO. THE vo might ask themselves why this applicant doesn't take this program in china or Malaysia ? i mean MBA is offered everywhere and business field is successful in asia right ? .so i think u need to work more on your SOP. it has to be strong and convincing . stuff like interntional exposure and diversity don't work anymore. the world is more connected than before. also i believe you mentioned that u have family in canada right ? that rises some concerns for them. also what are your ties to your home country ? from what i read you are kinda settled in China. so VO might think how this person would leave Canada. they might stay here and settle like they did in china.
 
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Impatient Dankaroo

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Hey guys,
I am Rachel from Malaysia. I have been rejected two times for my study permit application and the reasons are as follow:
1) based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence. -- I have explained in my cover letter that even though I am Malaysian but I have spent most of my time overseas working in China. I am the legal person and CEO of a company(even though the business is hardly sustainable due to the pandemic, that is the reason why I think taking a gap year to pursue an MBA program is good for my company and my personal development). Also, I own a property in China and yet I still can't prove the officer I would leave Canada at the end of my study.
2) based on the purpose of your visit -- pursue an MBA degree. I have double degrees in Biomedical Sciences and Traditional Chinese Medicine but I have worked in financial and business industry for over 5 years. I am not applying for a diploma, but a master's degree in business.
3) based on your current employment situation -- I have provided my China company statement to prove that I am the CEO of the company.

I am not registered through SDS as Malaysian is not SDS program.
I heard the success rate for a study permit this year is quite tricky.
May I know what shall I do next? I have prepared 9 months for my GMAT exam and my MBA application but because of the study permit, I might have to give up on pursuing the degree.
Could anyone please advise me?
Thanks!
Hello Rachel,

What institution did you apply to do your MBA from? What is your GMAT score? And, it is not required to have a business UG degree to do an MBA. Many engineers and those in the sciences opt to do an MBA which provides a managerial skill set to complement their technical background.

The first thing you should do is get your GCMS notes and then formulize a strategy.
 
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rachel0309

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Apr 30, 2021
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i see your temporary status in china rose concerns for Vo or at least i think so.

get GCMS note and understand why u get rejected then defer your program and make a better application.

reading your profile and i no expert i had this question in my head " why A CEO of company and already established person would like to purse education in Canada ? people usually get MBA to become CEO. THE vo might ask themselves why this applicant doesn't take this program in china or Malaysia ? i mean MBA is offered everywhere and business field is successful in asia right ? .so i think u need to work more on your SOP. it has to be strong and convincing . stuff like interntional exposure and diversity don't work anymore. the world is more connected than before. also i believe you mentioned that u have family in canada right ? that rises some concerns for them. also what are your ties to your home country ? from what i read you are kinda settled in China. so VO might think how this person would leave Canada. they might stay here and settle like they did in china.
Hey Fritchou, thanks for your prompt reply.
That is actually a very good question from the point of the visa officer. I would add on to my cover letter saying that my business in China mainly focuses on helping foreign entities to register and set up their business in China. However, because of the pandemic, my business is hardly sustained because of the restriction of travelling so I decided to pursue an MBA degree, major in entrepreneurship to make more connection in North America so that I could use this opportunity to help my dying business or even if I have to shut down my company, I still have a valid business degree for my new career other than doing sales job(which I was doing after I switch my career from bio to financial industry).
Furthermore, I choose to study in Canada because most of my previous clients are from North America, and Canada Waterloo is like the silicon valley of Canada except that the MBA program in Wilfred Laurier is more affordable.
I don't have family in Canada, but my boyfriend is from Canada, but I m not sure if this will affect my visa application. Is my boyfriend regarded as a family member for this situation?
Also, I have read about the forum about GCMS notes. may I know how to obtain it because from what I researched, it has to be a Canadian citizen/PR to request for the GCMS note? Am I right?
 

rachel0309

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Apr 30, 2021
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Hello Rachel,

What institution did you apply to do your MBA from? What is your GMAT score? And, it is not required to have a business UG degree to do an MBA. Many engineers and those in the sciences opt to do an MBA which provides a managerial skill set to complement their technical background.

The first thing you should do is get your GCMS notes and then formulize a strategy.
Hey , I received the LOA from Wilfred Laurier University and GMAT score is 660.
I thought you have to be a Canadian PR / citizen to be eligible to request a GCMS note?
 

fritchou

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Hey Fritchou, thanks for your prompt reply.
That is actually a very good question from the point of the visa officer. I would add on to my cover letter saying that my business in China mainly focuses on helping foreign entities to register and set up their business in China. However, because of the pandemic, my business is hardly sustained because of the restriction of travelling so I decided to pursue an MBA degree, major in entrepreneurship to make more connection in North America so that I could use this opportunity to help my dying business or even if I have to shut down my company, I still have a valid business degree for my new career other than doing sales job(which I was doing after I switch my career from bio to financial industry).
Furthermore, I choose to study in Canada because most of my previous clients are from North America, and Canada Waterloo is like the silicon valley of Canada except that the MBA program in Wilfred Laurier is more affordable.
I don't have family in Canada, but my boyfriend is from Canada, but I m not sure if this will affect my visa application. Is my boyfriend regarded as a family member for this situation?
Also, I have read about the forum about GCMS notes. may I know how to obtain it because from what I researched, it has to be a Canadian citizen/PR to request for the GCMS note? Am I right?
anytime. your profile is good but sometimes a study permit application becomes tricky . you can get one from 3rd party. caips GCMS offer that u can purcahse it it's only 16$ i think and it will take 30 days.
 

rachel0309

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Apr 30, 2021
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anytime. your profile is good but sometimes a study permit application becomes tricky . you can get one from 3rd party. caips GCMS offer that u can purcahse it it's only 16$ i think and it will take 30 days.
Yeah , I understand that, especially during the pandemic. I am interested in getting this GCMS note but I'm concerned that if I might miss the confirmation deadline for my MBA course if I could only submit the application again mid June , which consider quite late for study permit application.
 

Simba112

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Hey , I received the LOA from Wilfred Laurier University and GMAT score is 660.
I thought you have to be a Canadian PR / citizen to be eligible to request a GCMS note?
No. And if you Canadian Citizens or PR you wont be applying for temporary status... unless you meant as representative but again NO, you can request the notes
 

A.Y.C.A.

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Jan 23, 2021
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Yeah , I understand that, especially during the pandemic. I am interested in getting this GCMS note but I'm concerned that if I might miss the confirmation deadline for my MBA course if I could only submit the application again mid June , which consider quite late for study permit application.
hi,

can you please share your timeline? When did you apply? Did you apply from Malaysia? Did you received a medical request or you did upfront medical ?

thank you
 

Uzair Mir

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May 4, 2021
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I've 7 in my ielts with no band less than six , I've paid a GIC of 10000cad but I've only paid my first semester tuition fee but I've a sanction letter for my second semester tuition fee from the bank which they will disburse after I get my visa. Need opinion on visa probability. Do SDS category have edge on non SDS category besides the time taken for processing.
I've done B.A where my main subject was economics and now I've got admission in Seneca for international business management. How much chance is of visa rejection if THE VO is apprehensive about course shift. Please please give suggestions to tackle this
 

Simba112

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I've 7 in my ielts with no band less than six , I've paid a GIC of 10000cad but I've only paid my first semester tuition fee but I've a sanction letter for my second semester tuition fee from the bank which they will disburse after I get my visa. Need opinion on visa probability. Do SDS category have edge on non SDS category besides the time taken for processing.
I've done B.A where my main subject was economics and now I've got admission in Seneca for international business management. How much chance is of visa rejection if THE VO is apprehensive about course shift. Please please give suggestions to tackle this
Odds are high during course shift and no clear academic progression, that both apply to your situation
 
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alig2121

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Hi Rachel. I think I saw you in the VFS Global office in KL. I am having the same problem as you. I have already requested my GCMS notes through a lawyer, they can get it for you, you just need to fill up a form.

I have another reason for rejection which is my current immigration status. I am on a work permit in Malaysia and I have no idea why that is a reason why I would not leave Canada? For what it's worth, it shows I am legally working here and I have not broken any laws.

I got an offer for a Master of Entrepreneurship at Ryerson and stated that after a decade working as an architect and interior designer, I want to set up my own business. I even have a proper website with actual users I have been working on for 2 years that I showed as evidence.... But they didn't buy my purpose of visit although that is actually the real reason why I want to study...

I also applied along with my girlfriend and apparently, that's another reason for my rejection.

I will update you when my notes are out, but it seems kinda useless.. They'll reject it again...
 

A.Y.C.A.

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Jan 23, 2021
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Hi Rachel. I think I saw you in the VFS Global office in KL. I am having the same problem as you. I have already requested my GCMS notes through a lawyer, they can get it for you, you just need to fill up a form.

I have another reason for rejection which is my current immigration status. I am on a work permit in Malaysia and I have no idea why that is a reason why I would not leave Canada? For what it's worth, it shows I am legally working here and I have not broken any laws.

I got an offer for a Master of Entrepreneurship at Ryerson and stated that after a decade working as an architect and interior designer, I want to set up my own business. I even have a proper website with actual users I have been working on for 2 years that I showed as evidence.... But they didn't buy my purpose of visit although that is actually the real reason why I want to study...

I also applied along with my girlfriend and apparently, that's another reason for my rejection.

I will update you when my notes are out, but it seems kinda useless.. They'll reject it again...
can you please share your timeline ? I also applied from Malaysia but I am still waiting. How long did it take before refusal ? Thanks