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jigzyy

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IRCC has sympathies with the students that is why they introduced this temporary 2-Stage process. I have never scene IRCC changing a process in the past to accommodate applications. They could have easily gone thru the regular process which they always had followed and no one would had the power to challenge it, but instead, for the sake of students, they did. Why not for visitors and/or Work Permit? Tourists bring money as well, Worker earn and pay taxes as well, but they understand that the students are feeling the pressure of delayed process.

Always try to think rationally instead of irrationally and you might end up having a great conversation with yourself.

If my words are sounding dramatic, how would you describe their actions? Or in this case lack of action?

I'm curious to know.
 

Drsunmeet Singh

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Canada has ruined it's reputation as a premier hub for international students.

The students are only choosing Canada as a result of dearth of options but if they had a choice, they would have taken it today.

They only had to keep visa processing open as an 'essential' service and continued to process it throughout the lockdown. Instead, they fell asleep at the wheel and woke up when it was too late.

This was not expected from a country like Canada.
yeah exactly after wating for almos
IRCC has sympathies with the students that is why they introduced this temporary 2-Stage process. I have never scene IRCC changing a process in the past to accommodate applications. They could have easily gone thru the regular process which they always had followed and no one would had the power to challenge it, but instead, for the sake of students, they did. Why not for visitors and/or Work Permit? Tourists bring money as well, Worker earn and pay taxes as well, but they understand that the students are feeling the pressure of delayed process.

Always try to think rationally instead of irrationally and you might end up having a great conversation with yourself.
No i don't agree with you on this i have got my AIP after 6 months but my program can't be online what I'm supposed to do now? Can't change my institute this is so disgusting and painful to see vfs is not opening and nothing is happening . I agree they have introduced so called phenomenal two stage visa but they should have been little transparent as what to expect in terms time
 

jigzyy

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04-05-2013
AOR Received.
09-07-2013
File Transfer...
22-07-2013
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02-04-2014
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14-07-2014
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Policies vary from country to country. VACs are open in UAE / Pakistan but not in India. Canada.ca shows a notice that VACs are opening around the world now so may be very soon, you'll hear that Indian VACs are opening as well. Even if your program is In-Person, you still can't travel without a Visa, again not an issue of IRCC. Is your term blended or all online or all in person? I am skeptical it being all in person.

Each individual case vary, policies are in place to help the masses. You will have to work with your institute in order to come up with a solution so that you can join them mid-term.


yeah exactly after wating for almos

No i don't agree with you on this i have got my AIP after 6 months but my program can't be online what I'm supposed to do now? Can't change my institute this is so disgusting and painful to see vfs is not opening and nothing is happening . I agree they have introduced so called phenomenal two stage visa but they should have been little transparent as what to expect in terms time
 

Drsunmeet Singh

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Policies vary from country to country. VACs are open in UAE / Pakistan but not in India. Canada.ca shows a notice that VACs are opening around the world now so may be very soon, you'll hear that Indian VACs are opening as well. Even if your program is In-Person, you still can't travel without a Visa, again not an issue of IRCC. Is your term blended or all online or all in person? I am skeptical it being all in person.

Each individual case vary, policies are in place to help the masses. You will have to work with your institute in order to come up with a solution so that you can join them mid-term.
Why are you like that ? You can't be rude to everyone and think in certain way we all are not here for criticizing ircc and we love Canada but at the same time if we are being harassed then we have right to do that
 

phuongdong

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If they are working with less staff and couldn't handle the load why did they encourage students to apply till sept 15. They already knew that there are 1000's of application pending submitted since Feb 2020
Money talk and smart move. But keeping the border closed permanently for long would probably affect the students' options of choosing the countries to study. I have been waiting for months for the final decision from my visa, and nothing has updated yet except the AIP. I am not sure the timeline for second stage. If this situation continues to Winter term, I probably withdraw from the program and choose other countries to study - I do not want to waste money on studying remote classes in another countries.
 

jigzyy

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Why are you like that ? You can't be rude to everyone and think in certain way we all are not here for criticizing ircc and we love Canada but at the same time if we are being harassed then we have right to do that
No one is harassing you bro. Neither Canada nor IRCC. If Canada had the track record of harassing students, believe me, no one would ever had applied for study permit. Due to pandemic, nothing is usual. You can't blame the policies or an organization (or visa officers) for not dealing this in a different way since it never happened in the recent history. This is not something that anyone could have predicted OR prepared for. Naturally, there is chaos. Even offices (embassies alike) aren't working at full capacity. You can't expect or force people to work in unsafe environment. No one know how long this pandemic going to last for. Is it 2 more months, 2 years or 5 years?

I know it is frustrating to be stuck in a process when you don't know when this is going to end, but It is of no use to stress over things that you don't have a control of now. Specially in Covid19 when there are too many variations. There could be a break-out of cases with in the CPC centre which could force them to close overnight. What can you do then?

I would suggest to indulge yourself in healthier activities, try to have fun with family or friends. You may have to fly with in a week notice (got visa back and have to rush through things). Spend whatever time you have. Stressing about it will not make your application go faster.
 
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GradStudent18

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IRCC has sympathies with the students that is why they introduced this temporary 2-Stage process. I have never scene IRCC changing a process in the past to accommodate applications. They could have easily gone thru the regular process which they always had followed and no one would had the power to challenge it, but instead, for the sake of students, they did. Why not for visitors and/or Work Permit? Tourists bring money as well, Worker earn and pay taxes as well, but they understand that the students are feeling the pressure of delayed process.

Always try to think rationally instead of irrationally and you might end up having a great conversation with yourself.
No, you're wrong here. They could not have gone through the earlier study permit process as easily as you make it out to be. And again, it's misrepresenting to say that no one would have challenged it if they had not made a 2 stage processing change.

Because if they hadn't made this change, then all students would have either withdrawn & asked for a refund or everyone would have deferred for the fall. Implication is that there would have been a very, very negligible number of international student intake for fall 2020, resulting in their economy putting $22 billion in jeopardy. This is the amount that we international students bring in every year.


It's money at the end of the day. They haven't given us alms by introducing this 2 stage process so please don't make it seem so. In fact, they're yet to decide when and whether / not they'll allow students with full approval before March 18th to enter.

I speak for myself so I'll proudly say that I've qualified for the opportunity to study there at a prestigious university in a highly selective program. And I'm not being allowed to travel & enter despite having full approval before March 18th, just because my online classes are supposedly "non-essential". While US students enter Canada everyday easily with fully online classes, coming from the worst-hit country.


So it's not that we students are expecting something that we don't deserve in the first place. It's been years worth of outstanding academic standing, time, energy, effort, hardwork, sacrifices, struggle, blood & sweat thays gone into reaching this stage now. We need to be treated fairly & justly now. A pandemic cannot & should not ruin someone's lifetime worth of work & the very chance & motivation to live life.

Please don't patronize students here by putting out demotivating posts to quell our dissent when we have complaints.
 
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Bishops2020

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Policies vary from country to country. VACs are open in UAE / Pakistan but not in India. Canada.ca shows a notice that VACs are opening around the world now so may be very soon, you'll hear that Indian VACs are opening as well. Even if your program is In-Person, you still can't travel without a Visa, again not an issue of IRCC. Is your term blended or all online or all in person? I am skeptical it being all in person.

Each individual case vary, policies are in place to help the masses. You will have to work with your institute in order to come up with a solution so that you can join them mid-term.
My daughter's classes are 100% in person. It depends on the subject at her university, it's either in person or online live at the same time as in person, for her, everything is in person. It's a disaster for her.
 

GradStudent18

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And it'll be 6 months since border closure in another 2 weeks or so. How much longer do they need to come out if chaotic operations & put up ONE rule for ALL online students - either allow ALL online students inside, OR do not allow any student who has online classes.


What's with the selective "discretion" (read inconsistency & bias) in allowing some students inside & some not asking them to go back home, when others sets of people have the same courses, same documents & same online classes?


I didn't know it was so difficult to put in place ONE rule for everyone and follow that properly. Isn't that what they usually do otherwise - being fair, just, and working according to the proper rules? What happened now with regards to students?
 

GradStudent18

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My daughter's classes are 100% in person. It depends on the subject at her university, it's either in person or online live at the same time as in person, for her, everything is in person. It's a disaster for her.

Hello sir! That means your daughter can travel, right? She can enter because of the in-person classes & should not have a problem.
 
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Bishops2020

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Hello sir! That means your daughter can travel, right? She can enter because of the in-person classes & should not have a problem.
No she cannot travel, ircc have a rule barring travel unless your study permit was approved before 18 march 2020. In fact, had the admissions office not taken 4 months to post her letter of acceptance, she would almost definitely have gotten her study permit by December 2019, but they kept saying not to worry, she had plenty of time. I'm far from happy. Si she cannot travel, cannot study, cannot take up her scholarship.
 

GradStudent18

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No she cannot travel, ircc have a rule barring travel unless your study permit was approved before 18 march 2020. In fact, had the admissions office not taken 4 months to post her letter of acceptance, she would almost definitely have gotten her study permit by December 2019, but they kept saying not to worry, she had plenty of time. I'm far from happy. Si she cannot travel, cannot study, cannot take up her scholarship.

They are not allowing even those with a full approval before March 18th to travel & enter, saying that our entry is supposedly "non-essential". Thry don't want to allow and that's the issue. The March 18th date has become immaterial now.
 

Ninakzmi

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This 2 stage study permit process is bcs they care just about the money international student bring to the country now even with online courses and the bitter truth is that they do not care for the international students,they just care about the money,
And what a racism and discrimination when they allowed American students to enter canada but we are not allowed.
A. American student oh lets apply to study in canada what i shoud do
1.get a LOA
2. Most of them no biometric needed
3.visa easily issued
4.enter canada

B .other international students
1. Try hard to get a good score in ielts or toefl or ...
2. Get a LOA
3. Biometric necessary
4.months of waitig
5.this ridiculous aip and 2 stage process despite of even having full application
6.you can't enter canada
This is not fair,at least not to me.
 
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