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Ray of Hope - 141st Draw

Ujaved21

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Nov 22, 2019
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Hi Everyone, I made a mistake with my NOC but only realised after I got an ITA. I used 2171 instead of 2282, should I decline the application or just go ahead with the application and write a LOE. Also, I did a Masters program from Nov 2014 and wrote my last paper in September 2016. I have May 2017 on my certificate. Should I have written Nov 2014 - September 2016 or November 2014- May 2017?
Sorry to say but its people like you who don't do research and waste other people's chances
 
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Jatt2canada

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Feb 24, 2020
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Really don't appreciate the hate on a forum that is meant to facilitate immigration. Yes, some people do immigrate and drive taxis and some work for large organisations. Disrespecting any occupation is absolutely unfair, if a person earns his/her living then that makes him/her a respectable citizen.
Recent immigrants shouting "stop immigration"! Why? Cause you got in and don't want more competition?

Instead of criticizing and fighting please spend time upgrading your skills as a professional that actually might help you get employed. There are plenty of free courses available online from IVY league universities FREE of cost.

The impact of COVID-19 is GLOBAL (not just limited to Canada), companies will take months to recover from this period of financial depression. It doesn't matter where you are and what job you do the effect will be felt everywhere. The way to get out of this is to boost national economy. Can do that by eating local, holidaying nationally, promoting home brands etc.

Immigration does give a boost to the economy of Canada, even the Uber drivers pay taxes (apart from the initial investment they make). If the Canadian government feels it has reached a threshold then it will modify the process and make it like the USA.

We shall find out about the draws in the coming weeks but lets be positive here and not disrespect any individual.

Hoping for the best.
 

coolgal

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Really don't appreciate the hate on a forum that is meant to facilitate immigration. Yes, some people do immigrate and drive taxis and some work for large organisations. Disrespecting any occupation is absolutely unfair, if a person earns his/her living then that makes him/her a respectable citizen.
Recent immigrants shouting "stop immigration"! Why? Cause you got in and don't want more competition?

Instead of criticizing and fighting please spend time upgrading your skills as a professional that actually might help you get employed. There are plenty of free courses available online from IVY league universities FREE of cost.

The impact of COVID-19 is GLOBAL (not just limited to Canada), companies will take months to recover from this period of financial depression. It doesn't matter where you are and what job you do the effect will be felt everywhere. The way to get out of this is to boost national economy. Can do that by eating local, holidaying nationally, promoting home brands etc.

Immigration does give a boost to the economy of Canada, even the Uber drivers pay taxes (apart from the initial investment they make). If the Canadian government feels it has reached a threshold then it will modify the process and make it like the USA.

We shall find out about the draws in the coming weeks but lets be positive here and not disrespect any individual.

Hoping for the best.
I don't want to reply to this because you're giving it a whole new school of thought different from what was said. Please don't advise any immigrant to study a free course with the hopes of getting employed--they're worthless here in Canada. It's different down south. Lastly, there was no disrespect for any occupation, all that was said was that EE wasn't meant to get more Ubers on the road, and Uber drivers are unhappy with the situation too.
 

Issygn

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Feb 16, 2020
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These too shall pass. We got to stay positive and ditch these blame games . IRCC knows what is best for Canada Immigration at this time so i hope they continue to do their job . A lot of people around the world feel strong about immigration but then Canada welcomed us so we are trying to achieve that now. If they decide to change it then fine but i think we deserve to be notified just as they notified us of their interest in us. We will wait upon the next draw and all these will become history some day. Stay safe most importantly. Dead bodies do not immigrate !
 

seadrag0n

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Mar 6, 2018
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Hi Everyone, I made a mistake with my NOC but only realised after I got an ITA. I used 2171 instead of 2282, should I decline the application or just go ahead with the application and write a LOE. Also, I did a Masters program from Nov 2014 and wrote my last paper in September 2016. I have May 2017 on my certificate. Should I have written Nov 2014 - September 2016 or November 2014- May 2017?
Decline the ITA if your score is high enough and you don't feel comfortable with an LOE. Thanks to people like you declining ITA's, maybe we will see another 4500 or even 5000 invite draw in the future.
 
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Angel1113

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Jun 6, 2019
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Ontario
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
4212
AOR Received.
24 June 2020
Med's Done....
05-06-2020
I need a suggestion. I am an Inland applicant (CEC+ FSW) with score of 470. So there is a good chance that I will get ITA in next draw. However, I applied for RNIP (rural and northern pilot) last month and my application was sucessful. I still need to submit few documents before I get recommendation letter (letter you need before you apply for PR) but I will most likely have one in April. So my question is which program should I go for?

I am asking so that I can withdraw one of two applications. i don't want to waste an ITA or a letter that can change someone's life. All opinions/sugesstions are welcomed!
 
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Issygn

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I need a suggestion. I am an Inland applicant (CEC+ FSW) with score of 470. So there is a good chance that I will get ITA in next draw. However, I applied for RNIP (rural and northern pilot) last month and my application was sucessful. I still need to submit few documents before I get recommendation letter (letter you need before you apply for PR) but I will most likely have one in April. So my question is which program should I go for?

I am asking so that I can withdraw one of two applications. i don't want to waste an ITA or a letter that can change someone's life. All opinions/sugesstions are welcomed!
I will suggest that you continue with your RNIP if you are okay with that . There is no point abandoning it at this stage .
 
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Angel1113

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I will suggest that you continue with your RNIP if you are okay with that . There is no point abandoning it at this stage .
Thank you for your response! Appreciate it. :)
 

Jasmine1998

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Jun 2, 2019
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I need a suggestion. I am an Inland applicant (CEC+ FSW) with score of 470. So there is a good chance that I will get ITA in next draw. However, I applied for RNIP (rural and northern pilot) last month and my application was sucessful. I still need to submit few documents before I get recommendation letter (letter you need before you apply for PR) but I will most likely have one in April. So my question is which program should I go for?

I am asking so that I can withdraw one of two applications. i don't want to waste an ITA or a letter that can change someone's life. All opinions/sugesstions are welcomed!
First of all congratulations in advance. I know you have been waiting for PR from long time. Here is my suggestion: don't withdraw anything before you actually get ITA or the letter. CIC is been very unpredictable. You never know when they will delay the next draw or go for FST only draw. As for your question, I personally think that CEC will be faster than RNIP. As far as I know RNIP is paper based and is supposed to take about 6 months. CEC have same processing time but uncomplicated inland applicants get PR within 3-4 months.
 
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Angel1113

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05-06-2020
First of all congratulations in advance. I know you have been waiting for PR from long time. Here is my suggestion: don't withdraw anything before you actually get ITA or the letter. CIC is been very unpredictable. You never know when they will delay the next draw or go for FST only draw. As for your question, I personally think that CEC will be faster than RNIP. As far as I know RNIP is paper based and is supposed to take about 6 months. CEC have same processing time but uncomplicated inland applicants get PR within 3-4 months.
Thank you! :):):)
 

cansha

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Aug 1, 2018
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Well, there's a reason they think that way. There's no jobs..In one way you could call out the hypocrisy, it's like voting for right-wing governments in your country and voting liberal here just because it favors you, now that's just an example.
You are actually correct about it. This is the very definition of Hypocrisy. Plain and simple.

You too will soon become like them in 4-5 years after getting to see the real picture.
No I won't. I'm here in Canada for 7 months now and I know the picture you are referring to. I have seen the hiring and number of opportunities in Canada and they are not the greatest.

After all the work that's done just to immigrate, and you get paid....lets say $25 an hour, you go sit with a lawyer for a trivial matter and he/she charges you $450 for a 30 min consult, you'll then realize how much work is still to be done to get to those levels and live the American/ok Canadian dream...while most people take $%@$ from others to get that $25/hr. It's a sad picture..unless top companies hire you and you're so special..I'd say that's someone who works at Google/FB/Wall Street banks who won't have any trouble immigrating to any country.
I agree with your points that life is not bed of roses here as some people may think before immigrating. Personally, I believe I'm incredibly blessed that I don't have to work in a $25/hour job and in any case I don't think there is anything wrong in that if anyone is earning an honest living. But yes, given the hardships some people may think that they had better lives back home.

But I also personally know people who have left well paying jobs in home country and now want to move to Canada. Why? Because they want to give better future to their kids. And some of these people are people who actually vote for right wing governments in the home country but want their kids to grow in a more liberal world and hence move to Canada.

If one is struggling with life in Canada the solution for that is not to wish that other immigrants are not allowed to come. If we had an opportunity to come in they should get that the same opportunity. It's not up to us to judge whether they will make it here or not. If they don't like it here they will move back. And there are plenty of cases where people have gone back to home country after realizing they had much better lives in home country. BUT they key is we need to let people make that choice for themselves and not extrapolate someone else's struggles on to them.

Peace!
 

cansha

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Let me tell you another part of this. I work in the IT industry in India and there are a ton of people from my city who are getting PR visas of Canada through EE and they work mainly for US clients and their employers have offices in Canada so once they get their visa, they land with a job with more than a 100k CAD/year salary atleast which is like 80k USD which is like an okay salary in the US. Three of my previous colleagues are in Toronto currently working for US clients on PR visas. Don't forget about Indian H1B's moving to Canada through EE.
100K is not the greatest of salaries but honestly not the worst either. It is not as easy to get a 100K job in GTA. So if someone is coming with that kind of job in hand from India they are starting at a very good point. And let's say both husband and wife have that kind of jobs than that's 200K and that's damn good money.
 

cansha

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Immigration does give a boost to the economy of Canada, even the Uber drivers pay taxes (apart from the initial investment they make). If the Canadian government feels it has reached a threshold then it will modify the process and make it like the USA.
It does and immigration is just not limited to give boost to economy. Although that is one of the most contributing factors. Canada has an ageing population and many people will go out of the workforce. And given the increase in life expectancy they will live longer and hence stress on public health will go up. Canada does need people who would pay tax and fund those government programs. So even if someone is a Uber driver that person is contributing to that cause. Also, a lot of Canadian citizens actually go and work in USA because reality is USA pays better. So Canada ends up losing its best home grown talent to USA. So, they need to replace that as well.

Immigration is not going anywhere in the near term future irrespective of emotions of people here. And the high scores in CRS also indicate that more and more people want to come to Canada.

Having said that some of the concerns of "immigration haters" are not unfounded. The fact that most immigrants end up in cities like GTA or Vancouver does put pressure on system and does not help Canada in long term. But the solution for that is to give incentive for people to move to smaller cities. That would take some planning and effort from government but that is an entirely different conversation.
 

Issygn

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It does and immigration is just not limited to give boost to economy. Although that is one of the most contributing factors. Canada has an ageing population and many people will go out of the workforce. And given the increase in life expectancy they will live longer and hence stress on public health will go up. Canada does need people who would pay tax and fund those government programs. So even if someone is a Uber driver that person is contributing to that cause. Also, a lot of Canadian citizens actually go and work in USA because reality is USA pays better. So Canada ends up losing its best home grown talent to USA. So, they need to replace that as well.

Immigration is not going anywhere in the near term future irrespective of emotions of people here. And the high scores in CRS also indicate that more and more people want to come to Canada.

Having said that some of the concerns of "immigration haters" are not unfounded. The fact that most immigrants end up in cities like GTA or Vancouver does put pressure on system and does not help Canada in long term. But the solution for that is to give incentive for people to move to smaller cities. That would take some planning and effort from government but that is an entirely different conversation.
People actually think that immigration is only for economic purposes. Due to unequal distribution of people in the country i reside currently, the government are keen to paying people to move to uninhabited parts of the country just for these places to be occupied and some other purposes.The military population is small too and i still don’t know how they will manage to strengthen it as people are really uninterested in that field. Trust me, i sit down sometimes and think about what will happen if the country is invaded. I couldn’t believe my eyes when the US embassy sent advert urging medical practitioners to apply for various visa categories. I Previously held the view that there are more than enough medical personnel in the US.So there are up and downsides to immigration and i think that the CIC is totally aware of this.
 
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coolgal

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Oct 16, 2016
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If one is struggling with life in Canada the solution for that is not to wish that other immigrants are not allowed to come. If we had an opportunity to come in they should get that the same opportunity. It's not up to us to judge whether they will make it here or not. If they don't like it here they will move back. And there are plenty of cases where people have gone back to home country after realizing they had much better lives in home country. BUT they key is we need to let people make that choice for themselves and not extrapolate someone else's struggles on to them.

Peace!
You are just trying to be politically correct. Also you're assuming that only struggling immigrants make non-sugarcoated realistic talking points. I don't want to go into my personal situation but to call me someone who is struggling while you're claiming to be someone who is blessed is hypocrisy too.

By all means you're a newbie too. Stay here long enough and your opinions will surely change, not just economic but everything. Some people need you once in 4 years and that's all you're to them.