Express Entry or PNP?

[arcticmonkey07]

So I recently finished my IELTS and got a score good enough to get me into the pool and I'm awaiting my ECA now. My application should not be an issue (my CRS is somewhere between 487-490 all things considered). Hoping things go smoothly for me.

My girlfriend is also applying for PR along with me. We have similar qualifications and experience under NOC 1111 (3 years or more). However, two things that are different in our applications would be:
1. Education - while I have a Masters degree in hand, she has a PGDM which has been evaluated by WES as two degrees (fetching 7 less points)
2. Sibling - I have my sister in Canada which fetches an additional 15 points. She does not have this.

Her CRS all things considered and best case scenario in IELTS (IELTS attempt pending) would be 462-469.

Needed help as to which route should she be going for. EE or PNP? Going by recent trends, EE seems highly unlikely. We're both looking to move to Ontario. How good/bad are her chances of getting through OINP? Will it even be worth trying?

We are planning to get married this year and I can take her in as a dependent (which again would set us back by a good 18-24 months along with all the other documentation).

Or will it be possible for both of us to get in if we get married soon and then apply a joint PR? (unsure what the technical term for that is) I don't know a whole lot about this process or how different it is from the individual process.

Any help would be appreciated!

 

[mikko008]

So I recently finished my IELTS and got a score good enough to get me into the pool and I'm awaiting my ECA now. My application should not be an issue (my CRS is somewhere between 487-490 all things considered). Hoping things go smoothly for me.

My girlfriend is also applying for PR along with me. We have similar qualifications and experience under NOC 1111 (3 years or more). However, two things that are different in our applications would be:
1. Education - while I have a Masters degree in hand, she has a PGDM which has been evaluated by WES as two degrees (fetching 7 less points)
2. Sibling - I have my sister in Canada which fetches an additional 15 points. She does not have this.

Her CRS all things considered and best case scenario in IELTS (IELTS attempt pending) would be 462-469.

Needed help as to which route should she be going for. EE or PNP? Going by recent trends, EE seems highly unlikely. We're both looking to move to Ontario. How good/bad are her chances of getting through OINP? Will it even be worth trying?

We are planning to get married this year and I can take her in as a dependent (which again would set us back by a good 18-24 months along with all the other documentation).

Or will it be possible for both of us to get in if we get married soon and then apply a joint PR? (unsure what the technical term for that is) I don't know a whole lot about this process or how different it is from the individual process.

Any help would be appreciated!

Hi there, if you are planning to get married very soon and if you are confident that your EE CRS score will still stay above the recent minimum draw score after you added your new spouse as a accompanying dependent family member to your Express Entry PR application, you should do so in order to save all the future troubles of submitting another Spousal Sponsorship application after you immigrated to Canada by yourself first. It's also definitely easier than having her waiting and filing for an OINP application. After you get married, your family would only need to submit one PR Express Entry PR application (You being the Principal Applicant, and your spouse being the dependent accompanying family member of yours), and then become PR together after your application is approved!

 

[arcticmonkey07]

Hi there, if you are planning to get married very soon and if you are confident that your EE CRS score will still stay above the recent minimum draw score after you added your new spouse as a accompanying dependent family member to your Express Entry PR application, you should do so in order to save all the future troubles of submitting another Spousal Sponsorship application after you immigrated to Canada by yourself first. It's also definitely easier than having her waiting and filing for an OINP application. After you get married, your family would only need to submit one PR Express Entry PR application (You being the Principal Applicant, and your spouse being the dependent accompanying family member of yours), and then become PR together after your application is approved!

Thanks!

Since we are completely unaware of how couple application works - is the cutoff different for couples vs individual applications? For eg. If the cutoff for individuals is 472 right now, is it the same for a couple that's applying or is it likely to be higher?

 

[mikko008]

Thanks!

Since we are completely unaware of how couple application works - is the cutoff different for couples vs individual applications? For eg. If the cutoff for individuals is 472 right now, is it the same for a couple that's applying or is it likely to be higher?

The cut-off score is for all cases (single applicant AND applicants with dependent family). What I meant was, in most cases, a single applicant would score higher in their EE profile comparing to an applicant with an accompanying spouse. If you look at the EE CRS score calculation grid, you'll notice the difference. For example, for a single applicant who is 28 y/o, his or her point for the Age Factor would be 110, while the Age Factor point for a married 28-year-old applicant is only 100.

 

[arcticmonkey07]

The cut-off score is for all cases (single applicant AND applicants with dependent family). What I meant was, in most cases, a single applicant would score higher in their EE profile comparing to an applicant with an accompanying spouse. If you look at the EE CRS score calculation grid, you'll notice the difference. For example, for a single applicant who is 28 y/o, his or her point for the Age Factor would be 110, while the Age Factor point for a married 28-year-old applicant is only 100.

Got it. I calculated ours on the website and it seems to be 488 right now. You reckon this should be enough by let's say mid 2020?

 

[mikko008]

Got it. I calculated ours on the website and it seems to be 488 right now. You reckon this should be enough by let's say mid 2020?

Yea it should be enough