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Can you please help me with selecting the most appropriate noc. Is it NOC 1111 or NOC 1311 for the roles and responsibilities listed down below.

I am confused as I dont have CA, CPA qualification requirements for NOC 1111 but as I was a part of iXBRL audit team of Ernst & Young which supports in tax filings for UK entities i feel the job description below matches NOC 1111.

Can you please review/edit the below R&R and suggest best noc ( My qualifications are BBA and MBA (Finance)

Roles and Responsibilities were:

· Supported the team in tagging of financial statements while ensuring compliance with financial reporting regulations, procedures and internal controls.

· Supported the team in reconciling the financial accounts provided by the entity to the signed financials available on the Companies House to ensure accuracy.

· Supported team in examining accounts to prepare detailed observations and discrepancies noted in work procedures and highlighting them timely to the concerned party.

· Supported the team in conversion of financial statements to create digitally tagged reports by tagging (mapping) the financial items to the elements within a taxonomy with the use of tagging software used for electronically filing of company tax returns and accounts to filing authorities.

· Assisted and supported in completion and submission of work in line with designated methodology adhering to tight reporting deadline.

· Assisted new staffs by means of coaching, guiding and performing first level quality check to verify the procedures used in tagging of financials.

· Supported team in preparing engagement trackers to track timely delivery of work to concerned party.
 

Babbal

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Jul 21, 2012
245
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Can you please post your notes both (R10 and A11.2) , thanks (y)
Eligibility: Not Started
Medical: Passed
Criminality: Not Started
Security: Not Started
Info Sharing: Complete


Restriction: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:

REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION: XXXXXXX REGULATION: CEC I have reviewed this based upon documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. R10 OK Recommendation: Review Required - Stat Questions ----AGE---- Applicants Age Reviewed and No change from ITA to e-APR Documents Set For Review: Client Information Client Enquiry - contains RCMP Criminal Record Check Passport contains Work Permit
 

karki

Hero Member
Feb 11, 2016
454
102
Toronto
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Winnepig
NOC Code......
4012 and 6311
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
08-02-2019
Eligibility: Not Started
Medical: Passed
Criminality: Not Started
Security: Not Started
Info Sharing: Complete


Restriction: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:

REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION: XXXXXXX REGULATION: CEC I have reviewed this based upon documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. R10 OK Recommendation: Review Required - Stat Questions ----AGE---- Applicants Age Reviewed and No change from ITA to e-APR Documents Set For Review: Client Information Client Enquiry - contains RCMP Criminal Record Check Passport contains Work Permit
So your Eligibility note is not present here. I hope your eligibility was reviewed by case agent, for that u need yo order a new set of GCMS again. Usually GCMS datas are 1 month old.
 

Babbal

Hero Member
Jul 21, 2012
245
42
So your Eligibility note is not present here. I hope your eligibility was reviewed by case agent, for that u need yo order a new set of GCMS again. Usually GCMS datas are 1 month old.
That's the another thing I have in my notes:
Notes:1
Text: REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION #:-------- REGULATION: CEC PARKED CASE NOTES Case parked due the folllowing:- Schedule A - ECA verification.

Please help me to understand it.
 

Therisaw

Star Member
Jun 8, 2013
196
28
Visa Office......
In Canada
App. Filed.......
06-05-2017
AOR Received.
05-05-2017
@legalfalcon or anyone else who can help.

Have you ever seen an application where criminality check was passed and then reopened to have "in process"?

I applied for BC PNP Express Entry on May 5, 2017.
I just got my CBSA notes and it says our (my common-law spouse and I) criminality checks were passed on August 3, 2017, and then on October 23, 2018, it was reopened to "in progress" and security still not started. And my file was transferred to the Caribbean (we are from there, but live and applied in Canada)

When I call or email I get the generic "we are working on it and will reach out to you if we need anything else". I also had the MP called and they just tell him that Background check takes as long as it takes because it's done through a third party service.

Do you have any suggestions on why it could be taking more than 2 years?

Thanks for your time.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon I’d like your advice on this if possible! Thanks so much
If you have a WP that is LMIA based, then your work experience letter should be in sync with it. However, since there is nothing specific in the note, it is all speculation.

I wrote a post on RR, and I am posting it here again:

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thnx.. i read it ,but how to know about security screening?is there anyway i can know from gcms?
There is nothing mentioned in the GCMS notes that would indicate SS. See when your eligibility was passed, if it has been over 2-3 months after your eligibility was passed, then you would need to request your CBSA notes to see when the SS started and if CSIS / CBSA has finished their involvement in it.
 

fashioncad

Full Member
Mar 7, 2019
44
11
If you have a WP that is LMIA based, then your work experience letter should be in sync with it. However, since there is nothing specific in the note, it is all speculation.

I wrote a post on RR, and I am posting it here again:

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
Thanks so much for your input @legalfalcon, really appreciated. Yes, you're right, my notes don't really say anything specific.
 
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Usmz

Star Member
May 8, 2018
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@legalfalcon

One of my colleagues has applied from Montreal (Aor Jan) and he got an email for concerns on his intentions to leave Quebec. He has submitted LOE with proofs while submitting the application. The content of the message are:

Proof of residency : I have reviewed the information you provided and I am not Satisfied that you intent to reside outside Quebec at time of becoming a permanent resident. Please provide and updated address / new job offer/proof that you will complying with 87.1
(1) For the purposed of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the Canadian experience class is prescribed as a class of a person who may become permanent residents on the based of their ability to become economically established in Canada, their experience in Canada , and their intention to reside in a province other than province of Quebec.The information MUST satisfy an officer of your intention to reside outside Quebec at the time of become a permanent resident, and not merely after becoming a permanent resident. This be received at this office by (DATE)



A little background: He has studied in Vancouver in 2009, after that applied for jobs in Van but couldn't get any offer ( maybe recession time) move back to the country of origin worked and then moved to Aus on WP and then 2.5 years ago moved to Montreal on closed WP. During the last 10 years, he has applied for jobs in Vancouver and has all records which he submitted with his letter of intent. He mentioned in letter that due to nature of our industry which normally works on contracts and projects, preference is for PR as his visa for Quebec itself last time took 6/7 months so companies usually are not willing to wait that long and he will leave once get PR as it will be easier to get an offer. Ok and he is a single guy.He got a week to submit further proofs or intention and he submitted all job application and chats the same evening he got request and the next day not even 24 hours, he got the rejection email.


Now my scenario is somewhat similar yet different too. I came on closed WP to Vancouver, after 1-year Canadian experience applied for PR claiming job offer points, the contract didn't extend and lost 50 points hence PR application was refused. Applied for jobs in Van but hiring was slow , got offer from Montreal which I grabbed as only 5 months left for WP to end and didn't have enough points to apply for PR from Van ( Have to improve Ielts score and claim my spouse points) so moved , gave tests and got good CRS score without any offer and applied in March . I have applied for jobs outside MTL, had interviews but some have timings issue as my contract ending July and they want person now and some have preference for PR, even my Van company contacted me last year after my move but I have already joined so can't go back like that and have attached that email too in my LOE that I have submitted with application, I have also my earlier WP, pr application refusal reason and suggestion given by VO that is to improve English score and apply. I have attached all proofs of the job application, interviews emails, showed that July end is an ideal situation for me to leave as my tenancy and contract ending . I will leave Quebec as soon as I get an offer. Right now 2.5 months have already passed since AOR and my colleague got an email yesterday after 5 months of AOR. What will you suggest as a job offer from Van looks difficult and without job moving to Van can be done but risks involved as closed work permit so cannot work anywhere so have to pay from the pocket but don't know how long will take for decision. Some are waiting for the last 7/8 months. Your input and advice will be highly appreciated.
 

lujiabao56

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If your security has concluded, then the VO will conduct a final review, before your application is approved. This can take 1-3 weeks.
I got wrong thing, I think my security check still in processing, security data upload complete, but still in processing, I was so confuse because you mentioned that before, Security screening the first step is collect data, and then analysis, my situation is very similar to that, but when I got CSIS notes shows data bank does not have my information that means not got SS.

PLEASE HELP ME! the security data was uploaded complete on May 17th base on Agent told me security check start at MAY 14th , due day was JUNE 13TH.
 

merlz

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May 25, 2019
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@legalfalcon
Hey, Need your help please for NOC code confirmation. I work in a banking firm and i am confused between NOC 1122, 4162 and 1112. Can you please suggest if possible ?

Since May 2014
Senior Compliance Risk Analyst - Compliance and Control
· Supporting the yearly execution of the enterprise wide compliance risk assessment (EWCRA) as per defined timelines, assessed final output of previous year and incorporate deliverables into the current year plan and track progress of remedial actions including updating of compliance manuals related to CRA using best practices to provide visibility and transparency of status and issues in the CRA process thus ensuring smooth flow of the process
· Leading the platform testing process and execution testing of test scripts for various technical requirements which includes UAT testing (end to end) and preparing tactical user stories for various changes to be done in the CRA Tool.
· Actively engaged in Quality Assurance (QA) process, reporting and all the adhoc requests facilitated by the stakeholders.
· Generating and preparing of CRA Business results for all senior stakeholders
· Analyzing control gaps to identify the function related Gaps affecting the business, rules analysis for various policies related to various regulations.
· Preparing Training decks for various respondents and QA reviewers to get a better understanding of the process and CRA tool.
· Calculating and aggregating the conduct risk key risk frameworks for various policy risk to themes mapping.
· Assisting in the RCSA and CMRA calculation for Protiviti Risk Assessment business unit alignment

My Academic profile as per WES:
a) Bachelor degree of 4 years
b) Post Graduate Diploma of 1 year
 

ibtee

Hero Member
Aug 26, 2018
325
119
Calgary
Hi LegalFalcon, I had another question for you if you can please shed some light on this.

My country of residence is UAE where I'm working. I am showing my salary account here as proof of fund whereby I attached account current balance letter, liability letter and 6 months bank st as supporting docs. However, after re-reading the statement from IRCC, I had the following doubt.

If my salary account in UAE is fulfilling the POF requirement, do I still need to disclose my other bank accounts in Pakistan by submitting the same docs from them or LOE? Thanks in advance
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi LegalFalcon, I had another question for you if you can please shed some light on this.

My country of residence is UAE where I'm working. I am showing my salary account here as proof of fund whereby I attached account current balance letter, liability letter and 6 months bank st as supporting docs. However, after re-reading the statement from IRCC, I had the following doubt.

If my salary account in UAE is fulfilling the POF requirement, do I still need to disclose my other bank accounts in Pakistan by submitting the same docs from them or LOE? Thanks in advance
You only need to show the bank account that meets the PoF. If you can meet the PoF with the funds on just one account, you do not need to show other accounts. If you do not meet the PoF requirement with the fund sin one account, you can show multiple account with which you meet the PoF.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon
Hey, Need your help please for NOC code confirmation. I work in a banking firm and i am confused between NOC 1122, 4162 and 1112. Can you please suggest if possible ?

Since May 2014
Senior Compliance Risk Analyst - Compliance and Control
· Supporting the yearly execution of the enterprise wide compliance risk assessment (EWCRA) as per defined timelines, assessed final output of previous year and incorporate deliverables into the current year plan and track progress of remedial actions including updating of compliance manuals related to CRA using best practices to provide visibility and transparency of status and issues in the CRA process thus ensuring smooth flow of the process
· Leading the platform testing process and execution testing of test scripts for various technical requirements which includes UAT testing (end to end) and preparing tactical user stories for various changes to be done in the CRA Tool.
· Actively engaged in Quality Assurance (QA) process, reporting and all the adhoc requests facilitated by the stakeholders.
· Generating and preparing of CRA Business results for all senior stakeholders
· Analyzing control gaps to identify the function related Gaps affecting the business, rules analysis for various policies related to various regulations.
· Preparing Training decks for various respondents and QA reviewers to get a better understanding of the process and CRA tool.
· Calculating and aggregating the conduct risk key risk frameworks for various policy risk to themes mapping.
· Assisting in the RCSA and CMRA calculation for Protiviti Risk Assessment business unit alignment

My Academic profile as per WES:
a) Bachelor degree of 4 years
b) Post Graduate Diploma of 1 year
The rule of thumb is that the job duties you list in your reference letter should substantially (75% or more) match the job duties of the NOC selected.

Your designation, your educations does not matter when you are selecting the NOC.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I got wrong thing, I think my security check still in processing, security data upload complete, but still in processing, I was so confuse because you mentioned that before, Security screening the first step is collect data, and then analysis, my situation is very similar to that, but when I got CSIS notes shows data bank does not have my information that means not got SS.

PLEASE HELP ME! the security data was uploaded complete on May 17th base on Agent told me security check start at MAY 14th , due day was JUNE 13TH.
The security is done by CBSA and CSIS. CBSA will conduct security on all applications, CSIS on some. Usually females, most, but not all, are not subject to security by CSIS.

When the security starts, CBSA is involved on it and so is CSIS. CSIS will conclude its investigation and submit the report to CBSA, and then CBSA sends its final report to IRCC.

Not sure if this answers your question.