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Paki99

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Jan 16, 2019
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That's the situation I was in for a while at IP2. You have now confirmed you're at "real" IP2.

Your next ghost update should precede PPR. When you receive your ghost update (Application/Profile Updated without anything inside changing), call IRCC to confirm your application has been approved. Your PPR email may take a few days.
Thanks!!
 

hashter12

Member
Jan 7, 2019
11
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Dear all i have a question and please guide me through! My aor is December 26
I applied gcms notes on april 16. My application was in ottawa till that time and the same date i.e. April 16 it was them transferred to London VO. I was recommended passed through the ottawa cpc office. My info sharing and security is pending. There has been no movement since then on the aor page login.... was the file transferred triggered on gcms notes? Or no? secondly once it has been now transferred what is the timeline i should be looking around?
 

Abhiancha

Hero Member
Oct 15, 2018
217
180
Hi guys,
It seems we got the PPR. Will send more details shortly, but I have a quick question:

My wife is the PA and my name or UCI is not mentioned anywhere on the email, but in the portal I am listed as dependent. Is this normal?

Can someone who has got the PPR please reply? @USProgrammer

Here is how the email looks (ids and personal info not included obviously):

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence. To finalize your application, we require:



1) Passports

  • VFS is our trusted partner for safe and secure passport transmission. Using VFS services is the only way to submit your passport. Contact VFS in India (www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/india) or in Nepal (www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/Nepal) and pay the requisite fees for the Passport Transmission Services . A separate envelope is required for each passport.


  • Please take this letter and present it to VFS for the purchase of the secure Passport Transmission Service. VFS will send your passport to the High Commission of Canada in New Delhi in a secure envelope. You will then be advised by VFS when your passport has been returned and is ready to be picked up.

  • Please note that permanent resident visas cannot be placed in Diplomatic, Official or Military passports.
  • There must be at least two blank pages in each passport.
  • We are unable to issue a visa beyond the expiry date in your passport. Your passport must be valid for at least six months.


2) Photographs

Please provide two (2) recent photographs along with your passports for yourself and each accompanying dependent. For instructions on photo requirements and specifications, see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/5445EB-e.pdf







3) Change in Circumstances

Should any of the following circumstances apply to you (or any person included in your application), you must inform this office immediately:

· Change in marital status, for example due to marriage, divorce, annulment or death;

· Death of applicant, dependant of sponsor/assisting relative;

· Birth of a child and/or pregnancy (please provide expected date of confinement);

· Change in health;

· The laying of criminal charges or conviction for a criminal offence;

· A change in availability of funds for use in Canada;

· Change of address or phone number

4) Submitting your passport(s) in Canada (CPC-O)



If you have a mailing address in Canada and if you and all the accompanying dependents on your application are currently in Canada and plan to be in Canada for at least three months, you may submit your passport(s) to the Case Processing Centre – Ottawa.

You are required to send your document(s) together along with a copy of this letter by mail or courier to the following address with the additional following document:

· A self-addressed, pre-paid Xpresspost envelope from Canada Post.

Purchase your prepaid letter-sized (32 x 24 cm) Canada Post Xpresspostenvelope (Regional if you live in Ontario or Quebec; National for other provinces and territories), at any Canada Post retail outlet.


Complete the mailing label showing your full mailing address in the “Deliver To” field.


Make a note of tracking numbers for each envelope.


Enclose this envelope along with your documents and a copy of this letter.


You can purchase a Canada Post shipping label on line at:


http://www.canadapost.ca/personal/tools/cst/intro-e.asp


Please note that the Case Processing Centre in Ottawa will not return documents to a Canadian address via any other courier than a pre-paid self-addressed Expresspost envelope.



Submit all documents in a single package and send it to the following address:

CPC – Ottawa – PR

365 Laurier Avenue West

Ottawa ON

K1A 1L1



NOTE: Your passports and photos must be received by the visa office in New Delhi within 30 days of the date of this letter. Failure to comply with this request could result in the refusal of your application. Please include a copy of this letter along with your submission.
Congratulations! from what i know, you need to submit both the passports (Yours and your spouse's) along with the photos.
 

Sho_

Member
Dec 31, 2018
19
23
I received PPR email
Iranian citizen & residence, NOC 2151, CRS 448, IELTS (L9,R8,S7,W7), Single applicant
  • November 27 ITA
  • AOR December 13
  • MEP & BIL Janury 23
  • Bio completed Feb 4
  • First Ghost update Feb 7/8
  • Second Ghost update May 23
  • ADR May 23 (Schedual A,CV, Student form)
  • Upload ADR May 26
  • Third & fourth ghost update May 31 (twice in one day)
  • Fifth ghost update June 6
  • PPR june 7
 

derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
1,069
2,266
I just spoke to a really friendly agent - I almost always speak to them in French and since the call center is located in Montreal they're extra nice to me? - and he explained that because I have two PCCs on my application, this usually takes longer because they communicate with each country to authenticate the PCCs and ask further questions. I narrowly avoided having a third PCC, so I can't imagine the clusterf*ck that would create. And they definitely comb through your travel history for any red flags. Strangely, however, both my criminality and security have not yet started. And what should I do in case my application goes over the six-month mark? I should remain patient and wait...like I haven't been doing that already.

I really feel for these call center agents. You can sense they're also frustrated because IRCC has screwed them over with these huge delays, making them go over the same script with every caller ad infinitum.

I have tried calling using hangout and the link mentioned in your signature. Never works for me. Hangout asks for payment not sure why
 

derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
1,069
2,266
I look in the crystal ball and I see drinking and partying. Congratulations!

Hi guys,
It seems we got the PPR. Will send more details shortly, but I have a quick question:

My wife is the PA and my name or UCI is not mentioned anywhere on the email, but in the portal I am listed as dependent. Is this normal?

Can someone who has got the PPR please reply? @USProgrammer

Here is how the email looks (ids and personal info not included obviously):

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence. To finalize your application, we require:



1) Passports

  • VFS is our trusted partner for safe and secure passport transmission. Using VFS services is the only way to submit your passport. Contact VFS in India (www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/india) or in Nepal (www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/Nepal) and pay the requisite fees for the Passport Transmission Services . A separate envelope is required for each passport.


  • Please take this letter and present it to VFS for the purchase of the secure Passport Transmission Service. VFS will send your passport to the High Commission of Canada in New Delhi in a secure envelope. You will then be advised by VFS when your passport has been returned and is ready to be picked up.

  • Please note that permanent resident visas cannot be placed in Diplomatic, Official or Military passports.
  • There must be at least two blank pages in each passport.
  • We are unable to issue a visa beyond the expiry date in your passport. Your passport must be valid for at least six months.


2) Photographs

Please provide two (2) recent photographs along with your passports for yourself and each accompanying dependent. For instructions on photo requirements and specifications, see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/5445EB-e.pdf







3) Change in Circumstances

Should any of the following circumstances apply to you (or any person included in your application), you must inform this office immediately:

· Change in marital status, for example due to marriage, divorce, annulment or death;

· Death of applicant, dependant of sponsor/assisting relative;

· Birth of a child and/or pregnancy (please provide expected date of confinement);

· Change in health;

· The laying of criminal charges or conviction for a criminal offence;

· A change in availability of funds for use in Canada;

· Change of address or phone number

4) Submitting your passport(s) in Canada (CPC-O)



If you have a mailing address in Canada and if you and all the accompanying dependents on your application are currently in Canada and plan to be in Canada for at least three months, you may submit your passport(s) to the Case Processing Centre – Ottawa.

You are required to send your document(s) together along with a copy of this letter by mail or courier to the following address with the additional following document:

· A self-addressed, pre-paid Xpresspost envelope from Canada Post.

Purchase your prepaid letter-sized (32 x 24 cm) Canada Post Xpresspostenvelope (Regional if you live in Ontario or Quebec; National for other provinces and territories), at any Canada Post retail outlet.


Complete the mailing label showing your full mailing address in the “Deliver To” field.


Make a note of tracking numbers for each envelope.


Enclose this envelope along with your documents and a copy of this letter.


You can purchase a Canada Post shipping label on line at:


http://www.canadapost.ca/personal/tools/cst/intro-e.asp


Please note that the Case Processing Centre in Ottawa will not return documents to a Canadian address via any other courier than a pre-paid self-addressed Expresspost envelope.



Submit all documents in a single package and send it to the following address:

CPC – Ottawa – PR

365 Laurier Avenue West

Ottawa ON

K1A 1L1



NOTE: Your passports and photos must be received by the visa office in New Delhi within 30 days of the date of this letter. Failure to comply with this request could result in the refusal of your application. Please include a copy of this letter along with your submission.
 

derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
1,069
2,266
There is an email address for the London VO, which someone here might be able to share, but I don't have it. You can raise a CSE or order a new set of GCMS notes to find out the status of your application. As you must have gathered already, about two-thirds (or more) of all December applications are going to exceed six months.

If you'd like to know the average anticipated processing time for your application based on your nationality, residence and stream, you can use this amazing tool created by @USProgrammer: https://pprdays.glitch.me/

Dear all i have a question and please guide me through! My aor is December 26
I applied gcms notes on april 16. My application was in ottawa till that time and the same date i.e. April 16 it was them transferred to London VO. I was recommended passed through the ottawa cpc office. My info sharing and security is pending. There has been no movement since then on the aor page login.... was the file transferred triggered on gcms notes? Or no? secondly once it has been now transferred what is the timeline i should be looking around?
 
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derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
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Congratulations! I can see the ghosts took a huge liking to you!

I received PPR email
Iranian citizen & residence, NOC 2151, CRS 448, IELTS (L9,R8,S7,W7), Single applicant
  • November 27 ITA
  • AOR December 13
  • MEP & BIL Janury 23
  • Bio completed Feb 4
  • First Ghost update Feb 7/8
  • Second Ghost update May 23
  • ADR May 23 (Schedual A,CV, Student form)
  • Upload ADR May 26
  • Third & fourth ghost update May 31 (twice in one day)
  • Fifth ghost update June 6
  • PPR june 7
 

rody0988

Star Member
Jan 9, 2019
120
125
Pune, India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1122
AOR Received.
13-12-2018
I just spoke to a really friendly agent - I almost always speak to them in French and since the call center is located in Montreal they're extra nice to me? - and he explained that because I have two PCCs on my application, this usually takes longer because they communicate with each country to authenticate the PCCs and ask further questions. I narrowly avoided having a third PCC, so I can't imagine the clusterf*ck that would create. And they definitely comb through your travel history for any red flags. Strangely, however, both my criminality and security have not yet started. And what should I do in case my application goes over the six-month mark? I should remain patient and wait...like I haven't been doing that already.

I really feel for these call center agents. You can sense they're also frustrated because IRCC has screwed them over with these huge delays, making them go over the same script with every caller ad infinitum.
I don't have multiple PCCs. It's just for one country and two of us, me and my wife. I will try calling them tonight. Let's see what happens.
 

angelica2019

Full Member
May 31, 2019
37
56
I just spoke to a really friendly agent - I almost always speak to them in French and since the call center is located in Montreal they're extra nice to me? - and he explained that because I have two PCCs on my application, this usually takes longer because they communicate with each country to authenticate the PCCs and ask further questions. I narrowly avoided having a third PCC, so I can't imagine the clusterf*ck that would create. And they definitely comb through your travel history for any red flags. Strangely, however, both my criminality and security have not yet started. And what should I do in case my application goes over the six-month mark? I should remain patient and wait...like I haven't been doing that already.

I really feel for these call center agents. You can sense they're also frustrated because IRCC has screwed them over with these huge delays, making them go over the same script with every caller ad infinitum.
This is a bit strange becuase my criminality passed very quickly after MEP.
I thought they did this decision solely based on the PCCs we submitted.
Isn't criminality normally done before eligibility?
 

derkdsou

Champion Member
Oct 3, 2018
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Yes, I have quizzed the agents about this a few times, and they are just as puzzled as I am. I don't know, it doesn't track with the sequence of how an application ought to be processed.

This is a bit strange becuase my criminality passed very quickly after MEP.
I thought they did this decision solely based on the PCCs we submitted.
Isn't criminality normally done before eligibility?
 

Maya1515

Star Member
Mar 13, 2019
103
179
Category........
FSW
I just spoke to a really friendly agent - I almost always speak to them in French and since the call center is located in Montreal they're extra nice to me? - and he explained that because I have two PCCs on my application, this usually takes longer because they communicate with each country to authenticate the PCCs and ask further questions. I narrowly avoided having a third PCC, so I can't imagine the clusterf*ck that would create. And they definitely comb through your travel history for any red flags. Strangely, however, both my criminality and security have not yet started. And what should I do in case my application goes over the six-month mark? I should remain patient and wait...like I haven't been doing that already.

I really feel for these call center agents. You can sense they're also frustrated because IRCC has screwed them over with these huge delays, making them go over the same script with every caller ad infinitum.
Oh is that so? Should definitely ask for French-speaking agents if I call someday if they are more friendly as you say.
All I know is that (I think) having both french and english documents in my application has delayed it: There was a huge "french document on file" written in caps in my GCMs notes and my file stayed in Ottawa because of that. People in my current residence country are getting their PPR and I'm stuck in Ottawa. I would have been alright if people in my home country (which I think I'm queued with) were getting their PPR but not a single one had it from Ottawa in a month! I really want to crack the code of IRCC working pattern just to satisfy my own curiosity. In another french forum of express entry, a member said something like: "I see that people who have the least complicated files are getting their PPR but if any file triggers questions, it's delayed." Well that's also what I noticed. Maybe it is because there are new officers recruited?

This is a bit strange because my criminality passed very quickly after MEP.
I thought they did this decision solely based on the PCCs we submitted.
Isn't criminality normally done before eligibility?
My criminality also passed shortly after MEP (maybe also the same week) and I had 4 PCCs! Info sharing was also complete ages ago 'cause I gave biometrics. It is my eligibility that was not started long after that (still have no idea if it has started and I'm a week away from 180days).

Oh and if anyone is interested, I found a nice report done in 2012 about a backlog IRCC were having in their applications with the former system: p.17 is quite satisfying to read. whoever reads it will understand. The report's title: CUTTING THE QUEUE: REDUCING CANADA’S IMMIGRATION BACKLOGS AND WAIT TIMES.
 
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derkdsou

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Oct 3, 2018
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Guys, we'll need a name for the 180+ club, the club of clubs for the overlooked children of IRCC, for those of us who have joined it already or are soon to join it. Please take a vote, or throw out an idea. We are a democracy out here!

No Hit Sherlock
The Untouchables
Not Fast but Furious
99 Problems but a PPR Ain't One
Friendzoned by Canada
Old Kids on the Block
The Laggard Haggards
The Real Slow Shadies

@Spotted, @rody0988, @USProgrammer (for your creativity), @Pura Vida, @SithLord, @Shahanastar
 
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Maya1515

Star Member
Mar 13, 2019
103
179
Category........
FSW
Guys, we'll need a name for the 180+ club, the club of clubs for the overlooked children of IRCC, for those of us who have joined it already or soon to join it. Please take a vote, or throw out an idea. We are a democracy out here!

No Hit Sherlock
The Untouchables
Not Fast but Furious
99 Problems but a PPR Ain't One
Friendzoned by Canada
Old Kids on the Block
The Laggard Haggards
The Real Slow Shadies

@Spotted, @rody0988, @USProgrammer (for your creativity), @Pura Vida, @SithLord, @Shahanastar
Maybe a new thread should be created about it as well, so that we have a clear idea on the possible causes of the delay for these untouchables.
 
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