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Maple7

Full Member
Feb 23, 2019
49
10
How long after RPRF have people been waiting at Montreal (i.e. if RPRF was requested, not paid upfront). And for those who got PPR, how long after RPRF did you get PPR?
 

JohnsonRock

Full Member
Nov 15, 2018
44
16
Michigan
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2174
AOR Received.
17-10-2018
I called CIC a while back. An agent informed that my file has been transferred to Vancouver VO. Does anyone know how's the processing speed there compared to Montreal?
 

jrose0418

Full Member
Jul 17, 2018
47
13
Canada
Visa Office......
Montreal
Hi guys,

FSW Inland here.

AOR: July 19, 2018

I'm just wondering, if IRCC has already requested for you to pay the RPRF, does it mean that you have a good chance of getting approved for PR? And how long does it take after paying and sending receipt to get a Passport request?
(My wife got a medical request and RPRF request all at the same day)

Thank you so much.
 

Wendy1112

Star Member
Jun 1, 2018
136
38
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Montreal
AOR Received.
12-31-2018
Med's Done....
02-10-2019
Passport Req..
interview request: May 23rd
LANDED..........
06-05-2019
Hi guys,

FSW Inland here.

AOR: July 19, 2018

I'm just wondering, if IRCC has already requested for you to pay the RPRF, does it mean that you have a good chance of getting approved for PR? And how long does it take after paying and sending receipt to get a Passport request?
(My wife got a medical request and RPRF request all at the same day)

Thank you so much.
I called them and they told me about the result, maybe you can call them to see if it is already approved?
 

Wendy1112

Star Member
Jun 1, 2018
136
38
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Montreal
AOR Received.
12-31-2018
Med's Done....
02-10-2019
Passport Req..
interview request: May 23rd
LANDED..........
06-05-2019

FindingAtm

Full Member
Jan 18, 2019
35
21
No, relocating doesn't mean your application will be transferred to another VO. It can, but that can also happen regardless of if you relocate or not.
If your AOR is after July 31st, as a Nigerian you most likely will be asked to provide biometrics.
Thank you
 

kruhiputar

Full Member
Mar 22, 2018
38
22
Hey, fellow Masters of Patience!
(@FindingAtm and @meenal31 - I guess you are in somewhat similar situation, so I'm tagging you here, as well - here is some info about whether you should stay or go when your visa is running out.)

My partner and I have received our GCMS notes, and along side sharing the info with applicants in similar situation, I would greatly appreciate your input. There's a lot of text, but I think it provides a context.
Just a reminder, the PA submitted a request for Visitor Record Extension prior to submitting the EE-PR app - we were thinking about going back to our home country and applying from there, but hoped for a quick processing being in Canada - lol/sobbing -, and made a decision to apply inland after the extension request was submitted.
So, the EE-FSW inland app was submitted while PA had his VR extension app processing, and while dependent was on valid VR.
Due to a 5+ months processing time for the VR extension, PA submitted an Additional document (Letter of Explenation) via on-line form to additionally acknowledge dual intent (having PR app processing), and ask for a date specific extension based on the official estimated app decision date (which was 25th March 2019).
Then, 2 days after the document was received by the responsible agent, PA's request was refused with no specific reason (copy-paste of all possible reasons).
Dependent did the same for her VR extension (meaning presented the same text with same reasons as an additional info in regard to the VR extension) and was granted the extension.
Afraid that PA would be refused again if he was to apply for the restoration (which would then most definitely be a red flag), and having the estimated finalization of PR date so near (+ our lawyer said to just wait it out for that little while) we stayed until now. We are going back to our home country (within the 90 day of possible restoration period) and will wait for our, hopefully positive, decision to be made there.
We are planning to make a change of address, and then address the issues stated in the Notes.
I would love to hear your suggestions how to tackle this situation, so do check this loooooong, loong post. Please and thank you!

So here we go:


FSW Inland, AOR 2018/09/25
R10: 2018/10/24
Info Sharing: Complete (2019/10/24)
Medical passed: 2018/10/23
Primary Office: Montreal Immigration
Transferal to Montreal: 2018/11/30 due to Workload (re)-distribution
Secondary Office: Centralized Intake Office

App Status: Open
App Status Reason: In Progress

No SS codes present on the file. Security sections either not started, blank, or 0.
Misrepresentation sections are either blank or 0.
Security: Not started (for both PA and dependent)

App. last updated: beginning of 2019/02
GCMS Notes Request: end of 2019/02, received within 31 days
App. Assignment: Assigned To: RC-2710 Assigned By: (code) Due Date: mid 2019/03

________________________________________________________________

NOTES: 1

Created Date: 2019/02/xx Created By: (code)
Updated Date: Updated By: (same data as above)

Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Montreal Immigration

Text: Case Analyst: Lock-in Date: 2018-09-xx_xxxxxxxxxx PA: (Surname, Name) - EE FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
ANALYST RECOMMENDATION: Review Required

MI3 SUMMARY NOTES: CIO RECOMMENDS PASS CRIMINALITY FOR BOTH PA AND SPOUSE. SPOUSE HAS 2 UCI. UCI #xxxxxxxx IS HOUSEHOLDED.
POTENTIAL ADVERSE INFO: IN 2018, PA WAS REFUSED 2 VR AND 1 WP.
A11.2: Appears Met
R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met
R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS/Funds: Appears Met
FSW points total: 74
Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete


Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 462
CRS points minimum score for round: 442
CRS score at application (APR): 462
I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as COMMON-LAW at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "xyz, edoc#xxxxxx" & "xyz, edoc# xxxxxx"
________________________________


INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: Not in Status

POTENTIAL ADVERSE INFORMATION: - PA WAS REFUSED A VR IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: CLIENT IS REQUESTING A VISITOR FOR TOURISM. CLIENT HAS BEEN IN CANADA SINCE 2017/xx/xx. CLIENT HAS HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO TOUR CANADA. I AM NOT SATISFIED CLIENT CONTINUES TO BE A BONA FIDE VISITOR. APPLICATION REFUSED. - PA WAS REFUSED A WP IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: CLIENT IS CITIZEN OF xxx. BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, I AM NOT SATISFIED THE CLIENT MEETS ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR THE IEC PROGRAM DUE TO THE DISCONTINUANCE REQUIREMENT. APPLICATION REFUSED. - PA WAS REFUSED A VR IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VR EXTENSION. WAS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER CANADA ON WP 2017-xx-xx VALID TO 2018/xx/xx. APPLICATION RECEIVED ON 2018/xx/xx. STATUS AS A TEMPORARY RESIDENT HAS EXPIRED. HAS NOT SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF THEIR TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS ON OR BEFORE THE EXPIRY OF THE AUTHORIZED PERIOD. APPLICATION REFUSED AND ADVISED FOR RESTORATION. SPOUSE/CL: In Status valid until: 2019-xx-xx NO ADVERSE INFORMATION: NOTE: -PA HAS A PREVIOUS EE APPLICATION: Wxxxxxxxx (EXPIRED CANDIDATE) -SPOUSE HAS PREVIOUS EE APPLICATIONS: Exxxxxxx (NOT ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE) Wxxxxxxx (INVITATION SENT) -PA HAS A VALID TRV UNTIL 2020/xx/xx

COMMON-LAW since xxxx-xx-xx; Statutory declaration of CL is on file; Spouse is ACCOMPANYING No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children MEDICALS: All NOT valid for 6 months or more PA - Passed, Valid until: 2019-xx-xx SPOUSE - Passed, Valid until: 2019-xx-xx PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
________________________________________

WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-09-xx Primary Occupation: NOC 1243 Medical administrative assistants xxxx-xx to xxxx-xx - Festival Promotion Coordinator (NOC: 1123) - at xyz - eDoc# xxxxxx - Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2018-xx-xx appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: -EMPLOYER VERIFIED AND ADRESS CONFIRMED ON (web-site link)/ - Letter confirms salary of xxx$/YEAR - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 1 year and 1 month. Xxxx-xx to xxxx-xx - Paediatric Practice Administrator (NOC: 1243) - at xyz- eDoc# xxxxx - Letter dated 2018-xx-xx appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: - EMPLOYER NOT VERIFIED: WEB SEARCH INCONCLUSIVE - Letter confirms salary of xxx$/YEAR - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 2 years and 4 months. CRS Foreign Work: 2 years and 4 months. FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)
WORK EXPERIENCE: 2-3 year(s), 11 FSW Points
ADAPTABILITY: 5 FSW Points Spouse has language Proficiency
SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet Approx.
CAD $20k+ - CAD $xxx as per BANK no.1 statement at xxxx-xx-xx; - CAD $xxx as per Bank no2 statement at xxxx-xx-xx; - CAD $xxxx as per Bank no.3 statement at xxx-xx-xx; Family of 2 requires CAD $15 531
 
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kruhiputar

Full Member
Mar 22, 2018
38
22
In addition to the previous post,
we plan to:
1.) Inform CIC of the change of address once we return to home country
2.) Address the refusals and previous applications history stated in notes, chronologically and attaching documents (confirmation letters, correspondence letters etc.):
- clearly stating that we answered "yes" to form questions regarding previous refusals;
- 1st refusal was PA's Visitor Record when he applied for the latter on the last day of his valid Working Permit but the app was processed with the next day date, hence lost his status; which was restored afterwards;
- 2nd refusal was PA's second IEC app, due to the submission within the necessary 3 months discontinuation period between two working permits;
- 3rd refusal was PA's VR extension request submitted after the EE profile was created, but before we actually decided to apply within Canada, therefore the reason for the extension was genuinely tourism, and we did not mention EE because we weren't sure we'll go ahead and do it. After the 5+ months of processing the extension request, the PA sent the Additional doc stating dual intent because we thought it might be understood as an omission of info, and then was promptly refused the extension while dependant was granted extension on the exact same grounds.
3.) The information in notes is not correct, PA never had a previous Express Entry application, he had Work Permit application which was refused due to discontinuation rule (no. matches the work permit).
4.) Dependent has a second IEC permit in process. There is no explicit rule that forbids having multiple applications in process, and obligation to inform and somehow connect to the PR processing application/ VO in regard to informing the CIC of the already visible additional post-PR-submission applications (whether those are visitor, study etc.) is nowhere to be find. We were explicit and upfront with all the applications and refusals that happened at the time of the PR app submission, and what happened later we assumed and were right that it shows on our file;
5.) Address the inability to verify the employer due to inconclusive web-search: We shall provide official translation of the copy of the State's Register of the Medical Practices; we'll provide additional links where the medical practice can be find; copies of practician's recent participation in various international professional conferences.

Hopefully that will be a successful strategy to tackle any doubts CIC might have.
And, folks, I do apologize for a take-over, and huuuge amount of text - it's obvious, we are terrified and we have so much at stake, as you do.

Let us know what you think.
Thanks a tone!
 

FindingAtm

Full Member
Jan 18, 2019
35
21
Hey, fellow Masters of Patience!
(@FindingAtm and @meenal31 - I guess you are in somewhat similar situation, so I'm tagging you here, as well - here is some info about whether you should stay or go when your visa is running out.)

My partner and I have received our GCMS notes, and along side sharing the info with applicants in similar situation, I would greatly appreciate your input. There's a lot of text, but I think it provides a context.
Just a reminder, the PA submitted a request for Visitor Record Extension prior to submitting the EE-PR app - we were thinking about going back to our home country and applying from there, but hoped for a quick processing being in Canada - lol/sobbing -, and made a decision to apply inland after the extension request was submitted.
So, the EE-FSW inland app was submitted while PA had his VR extension app processing, and while dependent was on valid VR.
Due to a 5+ months processing time for the VR extension, PA submitted an Additional document (Letter of Explenation) via on-line form to additionally acknowledge dual intent (having PR app processing), and ask for a date specific extension based on the official estimated app decision date (which was 25th March 2019).
Then, 2 days after the document was received by the responsible agent, PA's request was refused with no specific reason (copy-paste of all possible reasons).
Dependent did the same for her VR extension (meaning presented the same text with same reasons as an additional info in regard to the VR extension) and was granted the extension.
Afraid that PA would be refused again if he was to apply for the restoration (which would then most definitely be a red flag), and having the estimated finalization of PR date so near (+ our lawyer said to just wait it out for that little while) we stayed until now. We are going back to our home country (within the 90 day of possible restoration period) and will wait for our, hopefully positive, decision to be made there.
We are planning to make a change of address, and then address the issues stated in the Notes.
I would love to hear your suggestions how to tackle this situation, so do check this loooooong, loong post. Please and thank you!

So here we go:


FSW Inland, AOR 2018/09/25
R10: 2018/10/24
Info Sharing: Complete (2019/10/24)
Medical passed: 2018/10/23
Primary Office: Montreal Immigration
Transferal to Montreal: 2018/11/30 due to Workload (re)-distribution
Secondary Office: Centralized Intake Office

App Status: Open
App Status Reason: In Progress

No SS codes present on the file. Security sections either not started, blank, or 0.
Misrepresentation sections are either blank or 0.
Security: Not started (for both PA and dependent)

App. last updated: beginning of 2019/02
GCMS Notes Request: end of 2019/02, received within 31 days
App. Assignment: Assigned To: RC-2710 Assigned By: (code) Due Date: mid 2019/03

________________________________________________________________

NOTES: 1

Created Date: 2019/02/xx Created By: (code)
Updated Date: Updated By: (same data as above)

Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Montreal Immigration

Text: Case Analyst: Lock-in Date: 2018-09-xx_xxxxxxxxxx PA: (Surname, Name) - EE FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
ANALYST RECOMMENDATION: Review Required

MI3 SUMMARY NOTES: CIO RECOMMENDS PASS CRIMINALITY FOR BOTH PA AND SPOUSE. SPOUSE HAS 2 UCI. UCI #xxxxxxxx IS HOUSEHOLDED.
POTENTIAL ADVERSE INFO: IN 2018, PA WAS REFUSED 2 VR AND 1 WP.
A11.2: Appears Met
R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met
R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS/Funds: Appears Met
FSW points total: 74
Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete


Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 462
CRS points minimum score for round: 442
CRS score at application (APR): 462
I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as COMMON-LAW at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "xyz, edoc#xxxxxx" & "xyz, edoc# xxxxxx"
________________________________


INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: Not in Status

POTENTIAL ADVERSE INFORMATION: - PA WAS REFUSED A VR IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: CLIENT IS REQUESTING A VISITOR FOR TOURISM. CLIENT HAS BEEN IN CANADA SINCE 2017/xx/xx. CLIENT HAS HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO TOUR CANADA. I AM NOT SATISFIED CLIENT CONTINUES TO BE A BONA FIDE VISITOR. APPLICATION REFUSED. - PA WAS REFUSED A WP IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: CLIENT IS CITIZEN OF xxx. BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, I AM NOT SATISFIED THE CLIENT MEETS ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR THE IEC PROGRAM DUE TO THE DISCONTINUANCE REQUIREMENT. APPLICATION REFUSED. - PA WAS REFUSED A VR IN 2018. AGENT NOTE ARE AS FOLLOW: APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VR EXTENSION. WAS AUTHORIZED TO ENTER CANADA ON WP 2017-xx-xx VALID TO 2018/xx/xx. APPLICATION RECEIVED ON 2018/xx/xx. STATUS AS A TEMPORARY RESIDENT HAS EXPIRED. HAS NOT SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF THEIR TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS ON OR BEFORE THE EXPIRY OF THE AUTHORIZED PERIOD. APPLICATION REFUSED AND ADVISED FOR RESTORATION. SPOUSE/CL: In Status valid until: 2019-xx-xx NO ADVERSE INFORMATION: NOTE: -PA HAS A PREVIOUS EE APPLICATION: Wxxxxxxxx (EXPIRED CANDIDATE) -SPOUSE HAS PREVIOUS EE APPLICATIONS: Exxxxxxx (NOT ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE) Wxxxxxxx (INVITATION SENT) -PA HAS A VALID TRV UNTIL 2020/xx/xx

COMMON-LAW since xxxx-xx-xx; Statutory declaration of CL is on file; Spouse is ACCOMPANYING No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children MEDICALS: All NOT valid for 6 months or more PA - Passed, Valid until: 2019-xx-xx SPOUSE - Passed, Valid until: 2019-xx-xx PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
________________________________________

WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-09-xx Primary Occupation: NOC 1243 Medical administrative assistants xxxx-xx to xxxx-xx - Festival Promotion Coordinator (NOC: 1123) - at xyz - eDoc# xxxxxx - Web-based search confirms employer information - Letter dated 2018-xx-xx appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: -EMPLOYER VERIFIED AND ADRESS CONFIRMED ON (web-site link)/ - Letter confirms salary of xxx$/YEAR - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Foreign Work: 1 year and 1 month. Xxxx-xx to xxxx-xx - Paediatric Practice Administrator (NOC: 1243) - at xyz- eDoc# xxxxx - Letter dated 2018-xx-xx appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: - EMPLOYER NOT VERIFIED: WEB SEARCH INCONCLUSIVE - Letter confirms salary of xxx$/YEAR - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 2 years and 4 months. CRS Foreign Work: 2 years and 4 months. FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)
WORK EXPERIENCE: 2-3 year(s), 11 FSW Points
ADAPTABILITY: 5 FSW Points Spouse has language Proficiency
SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet Approx.
CAD $20k+ - CAD $xxx as per BANK no.1 statement at xxxx-xx-xx; - CAD $xxx as per Bank no2 statement at xxxx-xx-xx; - CAD $xxxx as per Bank no.3 statement at xxx-xx-xx; Family of 2 requires CAD $15 531
Hi Kruhiputar,

If there's any advantage to be in this visa office, it's seeing someone else waiting for PR on a TRV. I'm pretty confused about this state too and it's striking that the Visitor Record information is stated under 'Potential Adverse Information'. Is it remaining in Canada despite the refusal that is considered 'adverse' or just the VRE application? With me, i applied for a VRE extension the same day as i applied for PR. My reason was to continue being a guardian for my minor sister who attains majority next week so technically, my job is done unless o want to apply for another VRE. Seeing your notes, I'm less inclined to. An immigration consultant friend of a friend advised me to return to my home country without changing my address. I'm not sure that's a good idea.
I agree with your strategy though. Let's just go home. It's so tiring.
 
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