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write2rtd

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07-05-2019
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30-05-2019
Most application are processed within 6 months. Now let me unequivocally an unambiguously state:

The 6 months processing time starts from the day when your R10 is passed.

The 6 months processing time does not start from the day of the AoR. The R10 is usually passed within the first 20-45 days. R10 is also called the completeness check. As per Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), it is an absolute liability on the applicant to ensure that his application is complete, i.e. all the supporting documents are submitted. If anything is missing the application will be rejected. This is why there is no point requesting GCMS notes within the first 45 days, as even if any document is missing you cannot do much.

By the time R10 is complete, so is criminality, which is based on your PCCs, and Medicals are also passed.

After this comes the most important stage, ELIGIBILITY, also knows as A11.2. This is where the GCMS notes play a very vital role. The eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First an program assistant or analyst will review an application and then the recommendation is reviewed by an officer who makes a final determination. This stage is also the longest, barring any security or SS. Many times the program does not take into account your work experience, or forgets to review a document, or simply determines that your work ex does not meet the program requirements. As soon as you see these in your notes, you can raise a CSE and send more documents, which will then be review and hopefully you will save your application form getting into procedural fairness.

During the eligibility, you may end up requesting GCMS notes, 2-3 times. After the eligibility is passed, the BGC starts. After the BGC starts, there is nothing much an applicant can do expect wait. However, even after the eligibility is passed, sometimes the BGC never starts. This is when the GCMS notes will do the magic for a few as they force the officer to review the application fo GCMS notes release. If the eligibility is passed, but not updated in the system he will do so and initiate the BGC, and you see a movement in the application.

Similarly, when the BGC is complete, i.e. the CBSA and CSIS have sent in their reports, you application may keep sitting, and when GCMS notes are requested the officer will simply update your application and will put it in queue for PPR release.

This is how in some cases GCMS notes play a vital role.

Requesting GCMS notes is entirely a personal decision. You don't have to request GCMS notes. IF you do not request GCMS notes, then the application will progress at its own pace and you will only see the MyCIC status updates.

The whole criteria of IP1, IP2 etc. is based on MyCIC updates, and to use my words carefully, is nothing more than a waste of time and baloney. An application for PR goes through the following stages:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security.

The IP, IP2 is way to predict that if MyCIC status shows a certain update, it would mean that the application has passed a specific stage, which is just speculation and nothing more. Instead of that, an applicant can see the calendar and make assumptions, which is also as foolish as anything else.

Hope this helps and answers your question.

To read more on the stage of an application see: https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/
Hi legalfalcon,
I got my Work permit on Feb 2018 second week and then I applied for my paper based PNP PR and got AOR on April 13, 2018.
Meds are passed as they were the same as done for WP.
Would the processing vary in this scenario?
Many Thanks for all your helpful information.
 

legalfalcon

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NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi legalfalcon,
I got my Work permit on Feb 2018 second week and then I applied for my paper based PNP PR and got AOR on April 13, 2018.
Meds are passed as they were the same as done for WP.
Would the processing vary in this scenario?
Many Thanks for all your helpful information.
The paper based processing is pretty much the same as that if electronic, except that it is done by a different office.
 
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write2rtd

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Apr 4, 2016
241
91
Canada
Category........
PNP
App. Filed.......
28-02-2018
AOR Received.
14-04-2018
Med's Request
04-04-2019
Med's Done....
16-04-2019
Passport Req..
18-04-2019
VISA ISSUED...
07-05-2019
LANDED..........
30-05-2019
The paper based processing is pretty much the same as that if electronic, except that it is done by a different office.
and does the processing for Work permit similar to the PR processing?
They follow similar processing steps then why do we have to apply twice?
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
and does the processing for Work permit similar to the PR processing?
They follow similar processing steps then why do we have to apply twice?
WP has an entirely different processing and processing standards. Work permit and PR are two different processes and give you two different privileges in Canada.
 
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write2rtd

Hero Member
Apr 4, 2016
241
91
Canada
Category........
PNP
App. Filed.......
28-02-2018
AOR Received.
14-04-2018
Med's Request
04-04-2019
Med's Done....
16-04-2019
Passport Req..
18-04-2019
VISA ISSUED...
07-05-2019
LANDED..........
30-05-2019
WP has an entirely different processing and processing standards. Work permit and PR are two different processes and give you two different privileges in Canada.
Thanks legalfalcon!
 
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CanadaVisaForumMember

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Most application are processed within 6 months. Now let me unequivocally an unambiguously state:

The 6 months processing time starts from the day when your R10 is passed.

The 6 months processing time does not start from the day of the AoR. The R10 is usually passed within the first 20-45 days. R10 is also called the completeness check. As per Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), it is an absolute liability on the applicant to ensure that his application is complete, i.e. all the supporting documents are submitted. If anything is missing the application will be rejected. This is why there is no point requesting GCMS notes within the first 45 days, as even if any document is missing you cannot do much.

By the time R10 is complete, so is criminality, which is based on your PCCs, and Medicals are also passed.

After this comes the most important stage, ELIGIBILITY, also knows as A11.2. This is where the GCMS notes play a very vital role. The eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First an program assistant or analyst will review an application and then the recommendation is reviewed by an officer who makes a final determination. This stage is also the longest, barring any security or SS. Many times the program does not take into account your work experience, or forgets to review a document, or simply determines that your work ex does not meet the program requirements. As soon as you see these in your notes, you can raise a CSE and send more documents, which will then be review and hopefully you will save your application form getting into procedural fairness.

During the eligibility, you may end up requesting GCMS notes, 2-3 times. After the eligibility is passed, the BGC starts. After the BGC starts, there is nothing much an applicant can do expect wait. However, even after the eligibility is passed, sometimes the BGC never starts. This is when the GCMS notes will do the magic for a few as they force the officer to review the application fo GCMS notes release. If the eligibility is passed, but not updated in the system he will do so and initiate the BGC, and you see a movement in the application.

Similarly, when the BGC is complete, i.e. the CBSA and CSIS have sent in their reports, you application may keep sitting, and when GCMS notes are requested the officer will simply update your application and will put it in queue for PPR release.

This is how in some cases GCMS notes play a vital role.

Requesting GCMS notes is entirely a personal decision. You don't have to request GCMS notes. IF you do not request GCMS notes, then the application will progress at its own pace and you will only see the MyCIC status updates.

The whole criteria of IP1, IP2 etc. is based on MyCIC updates, and to use my words carefully, is nothing more than a waste of time and baloney. An application for PR goes through the following stages:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security.

The IP, IP2 is way to predict that if MyCIC status shows a certain update, it would mean that the application has passed a specific stage, which is just speculation and nothing more. Instead of that, an applicant can see the calendar and make assumptions, which is also as foolish as anything else.

Hope this helps and answers your question.

To read more on the stage of an application see: https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/
Hello,
My AOR is April 14th 2018, Medical Passed 21st April 2018, since then I see the same update: "We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements and Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check."
Which notes from https://www.getgcms.com/order-now, shall I order eGCMS or CBSA/CSIS
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello,
My AOR is April 14th 2018, Medical Passed 21st April 2018, since then I see the same update: "We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements and Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check."
Which notes from https://www.getgcms.com/order-now, shall I order eGCMS or CBSA/CSIS
You should go for GCMS or e-GCMS as stated on the website.

The CBSA and CSIS are useful only for applicants who are stuck if the Security screening and want to find is CSIS and CBSA have concluded their involvement in their application. In you case, CSIS and CBSA would not have even started.
 

joe141985

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Nov 5, 2016
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CEC
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Sydney, NS
NOC Code......
5241
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Yes
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App. Filed.......
09-04-2018
Doc's Request.
RCMP
AOR Received.
11-04-2018
Med's Done....
02-05-2018
Passport Req..
23-07-2019
Hi Legalfalcon. my AOR is 11th of April 2018. On May 2nd I jumped to medicals passed and IP2(We are processing your background check) directly. Afterwards no updates. I am thinking of ordering GCMS notes. Could you please give me some advice? Thank you.
 

CanadaVisaForumMember

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May 24, 2018
180
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You should go for GCMS or e-GCMS as stated on the website.

The CBSA and CSIS are useful only for applicants who are stuck if the Security screening and want to find is CSIS and CBSA have concluded their involvement in their application. In you case, CSIS and CBSA would not have even started.
Thanks a lot for the reply!
 

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Thanks man. I just received a second ghost update after the phone call. My ppr email should be around the corner. 2 ghost updates in a day lol
Looks like PPR is around the corner for you. Congratulations!
 

mb1750

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Hi All, I have had no update on my application since early May when my medicals passed. I have been in IP1 ever since. So tensed :/ Which number do I use to call IRCC?
 

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