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Using foreign PhD as work experience

Khaoula

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Jan 15, 2018
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Hi,

Thank you for your comment. In fact, I am only planning to use the work experience acquired during the PhD and apply with the Master's degree as there is some time from the termination of my contract and being awarded a PhD degree (typically 4 months).
Concerning the letter from the University, my employment contract clearly states that I should work 37h/ week and also outlines my duties. My supervisor will write a more tailored letter in connection to this.
I wish you all the best. Thank you again for sharing your experience.
Hello,
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm in my last year of my PHD in France and I'm doing it in a an industrial lab so I have a salary and I'm paying taxes, but I have a student permit with full time work authorization ( it is a little bit specific to France I guess). I intend to submit my EE immigration application this year.
My question is: Did you have the reply from the CIC? has your application to EE been accepted with only Phd Experience ?
Thank you very much for your help.
Regards
Khaoula
 

mohoozee

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Sep 22, 2017
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Hello,
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm in my last year of my PHD in France and I'm doing it in a an industrial lab so I have a salary and I'm paying taxes, but I have a student permit with full time work authorization ( it is a little bit specific to France I guess). I intend to submit my EE immigration application this year.
My question is: Did you have the reply from the CIC? has your application to EE been accepted with only Phd Experience ?
Thank you very much for your help.
Regards
Khaoula

Hi Khaoula,

I'm not sure how the system works in France but I used my PhD experience from Switzerland and I have received COPR.

I think insofar you can get your University HR to write you a reference letter in the form specified by CIC, you are good. From eAPR to PPR (a period of 24 days in my case), I never received any ADR or something like that.

I hope this helps and good luck.
 
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maplenow

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Oct 10, 2017
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Hi Khaoula,

I'm not sure how the system works in France but I used my PhD experience from Switzerland and I have received COPR.

I think insofar you can get your University HR to write you a reference letter in the form specified by CIC, you are good. From eAPR to PPR (a period of 24 days in my case), I never received any ADR or something like that.

I hope this helps and good luck.
Hey, thanks for your reply. and @Khaoula, I have not yet received an ITA. I will have 441 on April and am hoping to get an ITA then.

@mohoozee, thank you again for the clarification. Can I ask you one more question? Did you claim both work experience and study point from PhD? I am hoping an ITA with MSc degree and work experience from PhD. In the worst case, I may need to do ECA for PhD. In that case I will have 455.
 

mohoozee

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Sep 22, 2017
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Hey, thanks for your reply. and @Khaoula, I have not yet received an ITA. I will have 441 on April and am hoping to get an ITA then.

@mohoozee, thank you again for the clarification. Can I ask you one more question? Did you claim both work experience and study point from PhD? I am hoping an ITA with MSc degree and work experience from PhD. In the worst case, I may need to do ECA for PhD. In that case I will have 455.
Sure, happy to help.

I used PhD to claim work experience and MSc for education. At the time of applying, I haven't been awarded the PhD yet (it takes about 6 month from thesis defence to degree award at my University) plus my CRS was more than enough to get me an ITA then.

I see your current CRS is 416 (which, in my humble opinion, is quite low to secure an ITA going by current trend) so I'll advice you evaluate your PhD (that gives you an extra 15 points) which will put you in the 430s. With some luck, you can get an ITA with that CRS score.

Also, I believe if your PhD is four years like mine, then you can equally max out on foreign work experience already without waiting till April.

Good luck
 

maplenow

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Oct 10, 2017
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Sure, happy to help.

I used PhD to claim work experience and MSc for education. At the time of applying, I haven't been awarded the PhD yet (it takes about 6 month from thesis defence to degree award at my University) plus my CRS was more than enough to get me an ITA then.

I see your current CRS is 416 (which, in my humble opinion, is quite low to secure an ITA going by current trend) so I'll advice you evaluate your PhD (that gives you an extra 15 points) which will put you in the 430s. With some luck, you can get an ITA with that CRS score.

Also, I believe if your PhD is four years like mine, then you can equally max out on foreign work experience already without waiting till April.

Good luck
Hi again,
Thanks for noting my CRS. It is 416 because of two years of work experience. In April, I will have completed three years at work (PhD) which will shoot my CRS to 441.
I have my defense in mid-June and expect the degree to be ready by the end of June. So, I would have an ECA by August first week whereby my score will be 455. But, in the last week of August I will have my birthday and my CRS will be 450 afterwards. However, I am hoping that 441 will be sufficient to get an ITA in April/May.
By the way, what NOC are you?
 

mohoozee

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Sep 22, 2017
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Hi again,
Thanks for noting my CRS. It is 416 because of two years of work experience. In April, I will have completed three years at work (PhD) which will shoot my CRS to 441.
I have my defense in mid-June and expect the degree to be ready by the end of June. So, I would have an ECA by August first week whereby my score will be 455. But, in the last week of August I will have my birthday and my CRS will be 450 afterwards. However, I am hoping that 441 will be sufficient to get an ITA in April/May.
By the way, what NOC are you?
Sounds good. 441 should fetch you an ITA around April as the cut-off would have dropped to low 430s by then.

My NOC was 4012.

Good luck.
 

pawansh

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Jul 24, 2017
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Hi again,
Thanks for noting my CRS. It is 416 because of two years of work experience. In April, I will have completed three years at work (PhD) which will shoot my CRS to 441.
I have my defense in mid-June and expect the degree to be ready by the end of June. So, I would have an ECA by August first week whereby my score will be 455. But, in the last week of August I will have my birthday and my CRS will be 450 afterwards. However, I am hoping that 441 will be sufficient to get an ITA in April/May.
By the way, what NOC are you?
Dear Can we use experience gain during PHD for CRS also?
 

karthik506

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Apr 5, 2016
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Canada
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4011 & 4012
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
07-05-2017
AOR Received.
07-05-2017
I used 4012 and got my pr
 

pawansh

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Jul 24, 2017
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Sure, happy to help.

I used PhD to claim work experience and MSc for education. At the time of applying, I haven't been awarded the PhD yet (it takes about 6 month from thesis defence to degree award at my University) plus my CRS was more than enough to get me an ITA then.

I see your current CRS is 416 (which, in my humble opinion, is quite low to secure an ITA going by current trend) so I'll advice you evaluate your PhD (that gives you an extra 15 points) which will put you in the 430s. With some luck, you can get an ITA with that CRS score.

Also, I believe if your PhD is four years like mine, then you can equally max out on foreign work experience already without waiting till April.

Good luck
Hello,

what documents are required to proof experience gained during PHD?
 

mohoozee

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Sep 22, 2017
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There is no bank statement or pay slip required?
In my own case, the bank statement was to proof my financial status and not in support of work experience. Note however that my reference letter indicated my annual salary pre-tax as well as number of hours per week. In short, my reference followed all the guidelines in the CIC regulation.
 

pawansh

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Jul 24, 2017
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In my own case, the bank statement was to proof my financial status and not in support of work experience. Note however that my reference letter indicated my annual salary pre-tax as well as number of hours per week. In short, my reference followed all the guidelines in the CIC regulation.
Thanks also in the letter what did you mention research assistant or research scholor or phd candidate
 

shifs

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Aug 21, 2017
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We recently got PPR using NOC 4012. FWIW:
- The duties mentioned in the reference letter closely mirrored those for the research assistant. No duties of a teaching assistant were mentioned.
- Designation mentioned on the reference letter was "PhD candidate".
- We attached salary slips of the last six months and the bank statement of only the last month, just to show that the account numbers on the salary slips and the bank statement match, and the salary is, indeed, credited in the back account.