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PR Renewal - Period to be assessed

serotonin

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May 27, 2017
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Trying to determine which of the following best suits the answer against
21. TRAVEL HISTORY:

with the following parameters:
Became PR: 2/15/2013
Application Date:9/25/2017

1. From 2/15/2013 To 2/15/2018
Captures the 5 years from PR date.

2. From 9/25/2012 To 9/24/2017
Covers 5 years from the date I am submitting.

3. From 2/15/2013 To 9/24/2017

Any help is appreciated.Thanks
 

HamiltonApplicant

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Apr 3, 2017
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Hamilton
Visa Office......
Munich, Germany
App. Filed.......
Jan 2007
Med's Request
Dec 2009
Med's Done....
Jan 2010
Passport Req..
Apr 2010
VISA ISSUED...
May 2010
LANDED..........
25-11-2010
Trying to determine which of the following best suits the answer against
21. TRAVEL HISTORY:

with the following parameters:
Became PR: 2/15/2013
Application Date:9/25/2017

1. From 2/15/2013 To 2/15/2018
Captures the 5 years from PR date.

2. From 9/25/2012 To 9/24/2017
Covers 5 years from the date I am submitting.

3. From 2/15/2013 To 9/24/2017

Any help is appreciated.Thanks
To better answer your question, when was PRC issued? How many day of Residency do you have as of 9/24/2017?
 

dpenabill

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Apr 2, 2010
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Trying to determine which of the following best suits the answer against
21. TRAVEL HISTORY:

with the following parameters:
Became PR: 2/15/2013
Application Date:9/25/2017
Reminder: When in doubt, follow the instructions; otherwise, yep, follow the instructions.

Item 21 in the PRC application form clearly refers to what travel history is relevant; it refers to travel outside Canada ". . . in the last five (5) years (or if you became a permanent resident less than five (5) years ago, since becoming a permanent resident)" . . . and . . . "include ALL absences."

This can hardly be expressed more clearly. But again, if in doubt refer to the instruction guide where it states:

Your Travel History: You must list all your absences from Canada in the last five (5) years, or since becoming a permanent resident if less than five (5) years ago.

(As long as the total number of days absent is less than 1095, the PR is in compliance with the PR Residency Obligation.)


Proposed responses:

1. From 2/15/2013 To 2/15/2018
Captures the 5 years from PR date.
Apart from this not following the instructions, a person cannot verify future facts. You cannot truthfully state whether you are absent or present in Canada future days.

2. From 9/25/2012 To 9/24/2017
Covers 5 years from the date I am submitting
No. This covers days prior to when you became a PR.

3. From 2/15/2013 To 9/24/2017
Only if the date you sign the application is September 24 or 25, 2017.

For someone who has been a PR less than five years, absences should be listed from the date of landing to the date the PRC application is signed. That simple. That's it.
 
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HamiltonApplicant

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Apr 3, 2017
488
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Hamilton
Visa Office......
Munich, Germany
App. Filed.......
Jan 2007
Med's Request
Dec 2009
Med's Done....
Jan 2010
Passport Req..
Apr 2010
VISA ISSUED...
May 2010
LANDED..........
25-11-2010
Issued on 3/1/2013.
Residency days are 1610
Best window for you is
2. From 9/25/2012 To 9/24/2017

Meaning, apply ASAP.

Unsolicited advice: Why PR renewal, why not citizenship...
 

spyfy

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May 8, 2015
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26-08-2015
Best window for you is
2. From 9/25/2012 To 9/24/2017

Meaning, apply ASAP.

Unsolicited advice: Why PR renewal, why not citizenship...
This is simply wrong. The OP wasn't even a PR in September 2012. Nothing before the landing date can be used as residency days, no matter where in Canada or where on earth you were.

dpenabill gave the correct answer above.
 

HamiltonApplicant

Hero Member
Apr 3, 2017
488
122
Hamilton
Visa Office......
Munich, Germany
App. Filed.......
Jan 2007
Med's Request
Dec 2009
Med's Done....
Jan 2010
Passport Req..
Apr 2010
VISA ISSUED...
May 2010
LANDED..........
25-11-2010
This is simply wrong. The OP wasn't even a PR in September 2012. Nothing before the landing date can be used as residency days, no matter where in Canada or where on earth you were.
dpenabill gave the correct answer above.
When in doubt, read the title of the thread....

Even if OP wrongly considered days between 9/25/2012 to 2/15/2013 towards residency in their entirety, it does not matter because
(1610 - (Days between 9/25/2012 and 2/15/2013 )) > 730
 
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canuck_in_uk

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When in doubt, read the title of the thread....

Even if OP wrongly considered days between 9/25/2012 to 2/15/2013 towards residency in their entirety, it does not matter because
(1610 - (Days between 9/25/2012 and 2/15/2013 )) > 730
It seems that the others did read the title of the thread, as they provided the correct answer...
 

serotonin

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May 27, 2017
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Only if the date you sign the application is September 24 or 25, 2017.

For someone who has been a PR less than five years, absences should be listed from the date of landing to the date the PRC application is signed. That simple. That's it.
Thank you and thanks to all who chimed in

Unsolicited advice: Why PR renewal, why not citizenship...
I have. Just do not want to get caught off guard if my citizenship process does not complete before my PR expiry date.

Cheers!
 

RR_11

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Hi. I have a question on the period to be assessed on the PR card renewal form. I will indicate the date I became a PR in the "from" field. What should the "to" field date be? Is it the date I am submitting the application? Note: this is my first PR car renewal.
 

Orlaith

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Hi. I have a question on the period to be assessed on the PR card renewal form. I will indicate the date I became a PR in the "from" field. What should the "to" field date be? Is it the date I am submitting the application? Note: this is my first PR car renewal.
I believe it is the date that you sign and send in the application.
 
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Nqur

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Feb 8, 2018
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4163
App. Filed.......
20-06-2018
AOR Received.
25-05-2018
Hi Everyone,

I have a question regarding PR Residency Requirements.

I was living in Canada from Oct 2018 - April 2019. I had to come back to my home country because of a family emergency. I am unable to go back for the time being because of family reasons.

However, I do have an opportunity to work for a Canadian business in my home country.
So, my question is: What are the requirements to complete the Residency Obligations while employed by a Canadian Employer abroad? How can my days be counted toward PR RO?
Any help or guidance would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
 

Buletruck

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Highly unlikely the days would count towards RO. You would have to have been working for the Canadian company prior to leaving Canada and be assigned to a position in your home country for a period of time. There would also have to be a position in Canada when you returned. You can certainly try and claim the days, but I suspect they wouldn’t allow them.
 

Nqur

Star Member
Feb 8, 2018
64
1
Category........
NOC Code......
4163
App. Filed.......
20-06-2018
AOR Received.
25-05-2018
Highly unlikely the days would count towards RO. You would have to have been working for the Canadian company prior to leaving Canada and be assigned to a position in your home country for a period of time. There would also have to be a position in Canada when you returned. You can certainly try and claim the days, but I suspect they wouldn’t allow them.
Okay, thank you for the reply.
I read on a law firm's website that the days could count if there was a reasonable assumption that the employer will employ me in Canada in the future.
Currently, the company has launched a new app-based business in my home country. They plan to launch it in Canada too in the near future.
If I am employed in Canada (as an ops manager) for the same business, would it count?