Ray of Hope - 72nd Draw

[tjsecondtry]

I feel at the moment you have just done the right thing. In my opinion there wont be a paradigm shift in rules. U should be through with PR in the due course and by then will have a hang of the place if u r already there.

I read that u will go with airbnb for couple of months, why not try the hostel?

We are spoiled enough to want an apartment like setting where we can cook and have a separate bedroom. We just can't commit to a lease without knowing my husband's work situation.

 

[TanakaM]

Richer than many posters here, and it was rich enough to know what Canada feels like. I am sure you know that too, you sound smart, you would never immigrate blindly.

And I think this is my second opportunity to practise what I have been taught by @Wandering Mind. lol

 

[TanakaM]

Ha ha ha. You're a good disciple @TanakaM.

Also, didn't you notice that he's saying it's not offensive because he's saying so! By God, he's trying the patience of even your guru

hahaha...
I believe in you Guru, no one can push you to the edge.lol

 

[Wandering Mind]

hahaha...
I believe in you Guru, no one can push you to the edge.lol

I'm trying, I'm trying!

 

[tjsecondtry]

Well said. I love you! Never say die!

I will be there to welcome you with a big hug in Toronto!

Edit - And dark chocolate!

 

[tjsecondtry]

I agree that the hardest thing about immigration is either putting your life on hold or not being able to plan anything properly because you don't even know when the score will fall and you'll get invited to apply.

Post ITA, you at least hope that in the next 6 months you'd be packing your bags and leaving. But then you read posts about those waiting for more than a year for their PPRs and you can't help but shudder!

Good luck to all of us waiting for NOI, ITA, nomination or PPR. May we all land in Canada soon and resume our lives without a care in the world!

The advice I have been giving about letting it be an adventure is the only way I will make it through this. I am a control-freak. You should have seen the plan I made for the furniture moving this past weekend, lol. But I know that if I expect to have any control over this experience, I will only make myself miserable. I guess my solution is now I plan how to be totally flexible, lol.

 

[Rise and shine]

Yes, it is very important to choose the correct NOC. What is your CRS?

451..., so the next draw, and very little time to check whether Consultant has filled in the details properly.

 

[hamgha]

I think this is turning into one big misunderstanding Like jon-son I read the stories about people wasting their savings and not finding jobs but I guess it's more due to the person than their ethnicity or country of origin.

What's usually happening in most of these stories is that the people complaining about living in Canada wait months to find a job at the same level or higher than what they had in their home country and are disappointed when they can't find it. In the meantime, they spend away everything they brought in. You can already notice it here when people are outraged that their Masters degree wasn't recognized by WES. It sucks that what they thought was an amazing degree from a great college isn't recognized in Canada's eyes but it's the sad reality.

What the people who got lucky - rather who succeeded, I don't believe in luck - did was accept a lower "ranked" job (or any job) when they landed to kick start their canadian work experience there. It's true that foreign degrees and work experience aren't valuated in the same way, even if from what is called 1st world countries. But it goes down to how hard the person is trying (networking, researching, taking up certifications and courses while job hunting, taking any job while they find a good one...) There won't be job opportunities waiting for everyone as soon as they land but that's the case everywhere around the world and not just in Canada. So the more savings you have the longer you'll be able to wait for a good job offer but in the end, if you don't get any income you won't be able to survive no matter how rich you are.

One of the main reasons (again I read through PLENTY of posts on the settlement in Canada) they find it hard to get jobs is the language barrier (scoring on IELTS isn't a criteria of how well you can communicate and understand English) as well as not knowing how the work culture is. Funny story I read on the forums: Someone mentioned for example that in his home country, he can't but refer to his manager as Sir, or Mr "Last Name". In my home country, we call our manager by their first name and can never imagine calling my manager Mr something. So it's that adaptability to the canadian work culture that counts. There are plenty of anecdotes there so I suggest you check it out and learn from the negative stories as well as the positive ones.

All in all, negativity never helped anyone and neither does over optimism. No one will know what it's like until we give it a shot. I think we all have a potential to succeed and be one of the success stories out there. It won't happen overnight but I'm sure we're all prepared to face and surmount obstacles (just like we've done so far in our home countries).

Sorry for the long post!

 

[tjsecondtry]

That's a great perspective! I'm trying to view this as an adventure too - sometimes I succeed, other times I wish the adventure wouldn't last this long!

Best wishes for the journey ahead of you. Hope to see you in Canada some time soon.

I look forward to the ROH Tim Hortons gatherings

It's definitely weird knowing when I will be there, but not where my husband will be, and not planning on having a real address until we have some idea of job location. The last thing we want to do is be on the wrong side of the greater Toronto area.

 

[jon-son]

Your concern for the rest of us is touching!

However, I'd like to point out that optimism and "patting each other on the back" has gotten us this far.

So if you don't mind, we'd like to go back to doing just that

And what is that "this far"? 72 threads of hope?

 

[Wandering Mind]

I look forward to the ROH Tim Hortons gatherings

It's definitely weird knowing when I will be there, but not where my husband will be, and not planning on having a real address until we have some idea of job location. The last thing we want to do is be on the wrong side of the greater Toronto area.

You'll get your bearings once you land and scope out the area. Good luck to you and your husband. Hope you enjoy the adventure and begin new ones in Canada.

 

[Wandering Mind]

And what is that "this far"? 72 threads of hope?

Hell no! We'd be bitter and cranky if we were at it for so long

"This far" would be not giving up hope even in the bleakest of times, having the support of like-minded people who are on the same journey as ours, getting advice and information from people who've been there done that, celebrating with each other when anyone of us gets nomination or ITA.

The list goes on, but I won't bore you with the details

 

[jon-son]

I think this is turning into one big misunderstanding Like jon-son I read the stories about people wasting their savings and not finding jobs but I guess it's more due to the person than their ethnicity or country of origin.

What's usually happening in most of these stories is that the people complaining about living in Canada wait months to find a job at the same level or higher than what they had in their home country and are disappointed when they can't find it. In the meantime, they spend away everything they brought in. You can already notice it here when people are outraged that their Masters degree wasn't recognized by WES. It sucks that what they thought was an amazing degree from a great college isn't recognized in Canada's eyes but it's the sad reality.

What the people who got lucky - rather who succeeded, I don't believe in luck - did was accept a lower "ranked" job (or any job) when they landed to kick start their canadian work experience there. It's true that foreign degrees and work experience aren't valuated in the same way, even if from what is called 1st world countries. But it goes down to how hard the person is trying (networking, researching, taking up certifications and courses while job hunting, taking any job while they find a good one...) There won't be job opportunities waiting for everyone as soon as they land but that's the case everywhere around the world and not just in Canada. So the more savings you have the longer you'll be able to wait for a good job offer but in the end, if you don't get any income you won't be able to survive no matter how rich you are.

One of the main reasons (again I read through PLENTY of posts on the settlement in Canada) they find it hard to get jobs is the language barrier (scoring on IELTS isn't a criteria of how well you can communicate and understand English) as well as not knowing how the work culture is. Funny story I read on the forums: Someone mentioned for example that in his home country, he can't but refer to his manager as Sir, or Mr "Last Name". In my home country, we call our manager by their first name and can never imagine calling my manager Mr something. So it's that adaptability to the canadian work culture that counts. There are plenty of anecdotes there so I suggest you check it out and learn from the negative stories as well as the positive ones.

All in all, negativity never helped anyone and neither does over optimism. No one will know what it's like until we give it a shot. I think we all have a potential to succeed and be one of the success stories out there. It won't happen overnight but I'm sure we're all prepared to face and surmount obstacles (just like we've done so far in our home countries).

Sorry for the long post!

Great post (except the last paragraph). There is one more factor: people here perceive Canada as their dream country. How do they know that, if they've never been to Canada? By reading books and forum posts? I do not know if Vietnam or Kenya would be my dream country, I would have go over there and check it out first.

The truth here is that many posters here treat Canada as their destination country, and be it Canada or Australia, or the UK, that does not matter. In fact, I've read it many time that people here try Canada because they could not make it to the US.

I am against such blind immigration, that's devaluating this beautiful country, and treating it as a milk cow. If the government of Canada were smart they would add another CRS category with XX points: Canadian visa stamp in passport. That way more non-blind immigrants would be offered priority in the long waiting line. And I am saying it as a person who had declined permanent residency in the US, fully sponsored by the employer. I just see Canada as far more interesting country, no offense trumprefugee!

 

[TanakaM]

I think this is turning into one big misunderstanding Like jon-son I read the stories about people wasting their savings and not finding jobs but I guess it's more due to the person than their ethnicity or country of origin.

What's usually happening in most of these stories is that the people complaining about living in Canada wait months to find a job at the same level or higher than what they had in their home country and are disappointed when they can't find it. In the meantime, they spend away everything they brought in. You can already notice it here when people are outraged that their Masters degree wasn't recognized by WES. It sucks that what they thought was an amazing degree from a great college isn't recognized in Canada's eyes but it's the sad reality.

What the people who got lucky - rather who succeeded, I don't believe in luck - did was accept a lower "ranked" job (or any job) when they landed to kick start their canadian work experience there. It's true that foreign degrees and work experience aren't valuated in the same way, even if from what is called 1st world countries. But it goes down to how hard the person is trying (networking, researching, taking up certifications and courses while job hunting, taking any job while they find a good one...) There won't be job opportunities waiting for everyone as soon as they land but that's the case everywhere around the world and not just in Canada. So the more savings you have the longer you'll be able to wait for a good job offer but in the end, if you don't get any income you won't be able to survive no matter how rich you are.

One of the main reasons (again I read through PLENTY of posts on the settlement in Canada) they find it hard to get jobs is the language barrier (scoring on IELTS isn't a criteria of how well you can communicate and understand English) as well as not knowing how the work culture is. Funny story I read on the forums: Someone mentioned for example that in his home country, he can't but refer to his manager as Sir, or Mr "Last Name". In my home country, we call our manager by their first name and can never imagine calling my manager Mr something. So it's that adaptability to the canadian work culture that counts. There are plenty of anecdotes there so I suggest you check it out and learn from the negative stories as well as the positive ones.

All in all, negativity never helped anyone and neither does over optimism. No one will know what it's like until we give it a shot. I think we all have a potential to succeed and be one of the success stories out there. It won't happen overnight but I'm sure we're all prepared to face and surmount obstacles (just like we've done so far in our home countries).

Sorry for the long post!

Thank you for taking the time to give us this post. I totally agree, particularly with the last paragraph.

Thanks again.

 

[iamxty]

451..., so the next draw, and very little time to check whether Consultant has filled in the details properly.

All the best to you! Congrats!