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NOC rejection. Anyone?

Lailina

Hero Member
May 17, 2015
260
15
Category........
NOC Code......
5226
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29.03.2017
AOR Received.
29.03.2017
Med's Done....
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Passport Req..
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VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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"Main duties
The following is a summary of main duties for some occupations in this unit group:"

this is what written on CIC in my NOC. As not ALL occupations are mentioned, then I assume not all duties are listed there, right?
Is it correct to assume that though I dont see duties that match to my job title, it does not necessarily mean that the NOC is wrong?
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
273
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Lailina said:
well, that is what i am afraid of. The fact is that I found exactly the job title in NOC 5226 (i didnt match that, its just exactly mine), but i cant see the duties mentioned for my job title, the only duties mentioned under my NOC are of those who do the technical job... does it mean that i chose the wrong NOC? :eek: then why all those coordinating (non-technical) job titles are even mentioned there???
Your noc is a vague one. You could pick out duties from each of the "examples" and get the general feel for that noc.
 

pxyarala

Hero Member
Feb 12, 2016
243
3
Mumbai
NOC Code......
2134
Doc's Request.
12-11-2016
Nomination.....
December 16th 2016 OINP
AOR Received.
22-08-2016
Hi Seniors,

My Boss in my present company wrote a very short Reference letter writing just two lines on my job duties. My position Lead Process Engineer falls under NOC Code 2134 for Chemical Engineers. I wanted to know with just couple of lines of job duties how would the case officer verify my NOC. Will this be a problem?.

Thanks and Regards,
Pavan Kumar Yarala
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
273
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
pxyarala said:
Hi Seniors,

My Boss in my present company wrote a very short Reference letter writing just two lines on my job duties. My position Lead Process Engineer falls under NOC Code 2134 for Chemical Engineers. I wanted to know with just couple of lines of job duties how would the case officer verify my NOC. Will this be a problem?.

Thanks and Regards,
Pavan Kumar Yarala
Do you have a contract or any other evidence listing your duties?
 

pxyarala

Hero Member
Feb 12, 2016
243
3
Mumbai
NOC Code......
2134
Doc's Request.
12-11-2016
Nomination.....
December 16th 2016 OINP
AOR Received.
22-08-2016
kryt0n said:
Do you have a contract or any other evidence listing your duties?

Hi krtyon,

Yes I do. I think it fits with NOC code 2134 for Chemical Engineers which I have mentioned in my e-APR. I have already submitted my application last week. Is there any thing that I can do.

Thanks and Regards,

Pavan Kumar Yarala
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
273
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
pxyarala said:
Hi krtyon,

Yes I do. I think it fits with NOC code 2134 for Chemical Engineers which I have mentioned in my e-APR. I have already submitted my application last week. Is there any thing that I can do.

Thanks and Regards,

Pavan Kumar Yarala
Not really. If they doubt your experience you should get a fairness letter. You can then submit more documents proving you worked that NOC. As your NOC is vague I wouldn't worry at this stage.
 

pxyarala

Hero Member
Feb 12, 2016
243
3
Mumbai
NOC Code......
2134
Doc's Request.
12-11-2016
Nomination.....
December 16th 2016 OINP
AOR Received.
22-08-2016
kryt0n said:
Not really. If they doubt your experience you should get a fairness letter. You can then submit more documents proving you worked that NOC. As your NOC is vague I wouldn't worry at this stage.
Hi kryt0n,

Do you mean to say that if they doubt whether my experience falls under the NOC that I specified they would send me a fairness letter?. I would like to know what this fairness letter would ask then (if ever it is asked). Will they reject my application because of lack of clarity about job duties with respect to NOC in my reference letter?.

Thanks and Regards,

Pavan Kumar Yarala
 

goyal.maninder

Full Member
Feb 13, 2017
36
0
Hi,

What is the significance of primary NOC?

My total work experience is 5.5 years [3 years in NOC X and 2.5 years (including current) in NOC Y]. I am bit confused here - I have chosen NOC Y as primary NOC and just wondering if I should have chosen NOC X as that experience had 3 years of work ex?

Can someone please advise if I should change this post ITA before submitting documents?

Thanks a lot!
MP
 
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newtoexpressentry

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I have the same problem as many above on this thread my duties dont fall under any NOC being a quality engineer as it is part of various NOCs. When contacted HRSDC everytime I ask them they give me a different NOC so that tells me they are confused also. Now what that means for me is duties dont match exactly not even 20%. So I dont know what to do.
 

Lailina

Hero Member
May 17, 2015
260
15
Category........
NOC Code......
5226
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29.03.2017
AOR Received.
29.03.2017
Med's Done....
...
Passport Req..
...
VISA ISSUED...
...
LANDED..........
...
newtoexpressentry said:
I have the same problem as many above on this thread my duties dont fall under any NOC being a quality engineer as it is part of various NOCs. When contacted HRSDC everytime I ask them they give me a different NOC so that tells me they are confused also. Now what that means for me is duties dont match exactly not even 20%. So I dont know what to do.
may I ask you how did you contact HRSDC? I wrote them yesterday, but they replied with a standard automatic way saying that they do not help identifying NOCs :(
 

Adil Khan123

Hero Member
Jul 20, 2015
200
12
Abu Dhabi
Category........
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-07-2015
Hello all,

As i can see there are lots of issues regarding noc selection and all that. I am going to submit my e-apr by next week in noc 2131 as civil engineer. Having more than 4 years of experience.

I have a single question that for two years i was at construction sites and after that i moved to office working as an estimation engineer with roles and responsibilites similar to construction estimators noc 2234

My question is, under noc 2131-civil engineer it is covering both the r & r but noc 2234 is not covering 2131.
My contract with the company, salary, designation everything is as per 2131.

I have written a reference letter under 2131 by combining r & r of both you can say 50% for each and get it signed with 2 project managers. Everything is as per what i have done and what i am dong currently.

Can som1 please advise whats i have done is ok? I will appreciate a feedback.
 

Shivanker

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Feb 19, 2017
222
9
124
Sri Lanka
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
may I ask you how did you contact HRSDC? I wrote them yesterday, but they replied with a standard automatic way saying that they do not help identifying NOCs :(
Same here. I also got an email today saying that they don't identify NOCs. where else do u think we can get this sorted?
 

sudeep.chatterjee

Full Member
Jul 5, 2016
49
7
Toronto
Hey guys, I have a doubt regarding the roles and responsibilities mentioned in my NOC.

My NOC description is given as follows:-

~~~"1112 Financial and investment analysts
Financial and investment analysts collect and analyze financial information such as economic forecasts, trading volumes and the movement of capital, financial backgrounds of companies, historical performances and future trends of stocks, bonds and other investment instruments to provide financial and investment or financing advice for their company or their company's clients. Their studies and evaluations cover areas such as takeover bids, private placements, mergers or acquisitions.

Financial analysts are employed by a wide range of establishments throughout the private and public sector, such as banks, brokerage houses, insurance companies, investment companies, manufacturing firms, trust companies, utility companies and underwriting firms. Investment analysts are employed primarily by brokerage houses and fund management companies.

Main duties
  • Financial analysts perform some or all of the following duties:
    • Evaluate financial risk, prepare financial forecasts, financing scenarios and other documents concerning capital management, and write reports and recommendations
    • Plan short- and long-term cash flows and assess financial performance
    • Analyze investment projects
    • Advise on and participate in the financial aspects of contracts and calls for tender
    • Follow up on financing projects with financial backers
    • Develop, implement and use tools for managing and analyzing financial portfolio
    • Prepare a regular risk profile for debt portfolios
    • Assist in preparing operating and investment budgets.
  • Investment analysts perform some or all of the following duties:
    • Collect financial and investment information about companies, stocks, bonds and other investments using daily stock and bond reports, economic forecasts, trading volumes, financial periodicals, securities manuals, company financial statements and other financial reports and publications
    • Examine and analyze financial and investment information collected, including profiles of companies, stock and bond prices, yields and future trends and other investment information
    • Provide investment advice and recommendations to clients, senior company officials, pension fund managers, securities agents and associates
    • Prepare company, industry and economic outlooks, analytical reports, briefing notes and correspondence."~~~

Now I would like to say that the reference letter that I have submitted, has all the duties as mentioned in the LEAD STATEMENT of the above NOC.
But when it comes to the "MAIN DUTIES",
I have all the duties mentioned for an Investment Analyst and dont have any duties as mentioned for Financial Analyst as my job roles were more closely related to Investment analyst only and not the Financial analyst.


So my question is, will my reference letter will be cleared as it only meets the Investment Analyst criteria and NOT the Financial Analyst criteria as listed?

Guys please reply.
Thanks in Anticipation!
 

parul31

Full Member
Dec 14, 2018
22
51
Hi Guys,

I have a question regarding NOC. I am not sure under which NOC code should I fill below mentioned job description provided by my employer. My guess is '2171 Information Systems Analysts and Consultants' and my designation is 'Functional Consultant'.

Can anyone please suggest and also does it suffice the job description required by CIC under this category?

• Gathering and analyzing client requirements and translate the requirements into product configuration.
• Responsible for complete ownership of implementation and ensuring an on time and in cost 'Go Live'· of software application.
• Assisting customers with data migration from legacy systems to software application.
• Coach & manage the team members in team, assign implementation activities, monitor the work and help the team with software product knowledge .
• Provide end users with training on software product.
• Provide regular feedback to product management and development teams with critical user experience inputs for product improvement.
• Manage client relationship and help the business development team with up selling of other Product modules.
 

Raz0r

Hero Member
Jul 9, 2017
696
295
Hi Guys,

I have a question regarding NOC. I am not sure under which NOC code should I fill below mentioned job description provided by my employer. My guess is '2171 Information Systems Analysts and Consultants' and my designation is 'Functional Consultant'.

Can anyone please suggest and also does it suffice the job description required by CIC under this category?

• Gathering and analyzing client requirements and translate the requirements into product configuration.
• Responsible for complete ownership of implementation and ensuring an on time and in cost 'Go Live'· of software application.
• Assisting customers with data migration from legacy systems to software application.
• Coach & manage the team members in team, assign implementation activities, monitor the work and help the team with software product knowledge .
• Provide end users with training on software product.
• Provide regular feedback to product management and development teams with critical user experience inputs for product improvement.
• Manage client relationship and help the business development team with up selling of other Product modules.
Its better if you mail the IRCC about the roles you have been under. They would be in a better position to resolve the conundrum your facing. Good luck.