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CIC asking for spouse work reference letter while no point obtained for that

samanta60

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Hi
In our PR profile, we had given the information that my spouse has work experience outside of canada. I am the main applicant (CEC) and we did not obtain any points from my spouses work experience. But still in our application we are asked to provide reference letters from his employers.

My question is, whether it is important that he gets a letter describing all duties he had matching the corresponding NOC and all those details that are important in case of my work experience for with we are granted points. I mean if not all duties matching the NOC are described in his reference letters, would that be a problem?
The reason is, he already has the letter without that complete description and it's hard to ask the employer to re-write the letter. I am afraid that we will be rejected due to the missing duties etc in the letter, while this work experience even did not give us any points.

Thanks in advance for any advise.
 

kryt0n

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It's asking for a letter because you entered it in ee. You can delete it after ITA and just explain in an LOE why you removed it.
 

samanta60

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Thanks very much for the reply. Are you sure it would be Ok to remove it after ITA? I am afraid it makes problems?
 

SCC

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kryt0n said:
It's asking for a letter because you entered it in ee. You can delete it after ITA and just explain in an LOE why you removed it.
Are you sure its a good idea? A wrong Visa officer on a bad day might not like that at the EOI stage applicant said something but later changed his/her mind....

I think the right move would be to add a Job Letter but a generic one where the letter is on the company letterhead with position and salary. No need to go in the detail.. So, it will get them what they want but because applicant is not claiming the points, doesn't really matter if the letter fits the definition of regulations..

Just a thought.. But the experts knows better....
 

DelPiero07

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kryt0n is correct, spouse's foreign work experience adds no value to one's application and thus, it is irrelevant if OP makes the change now.
 

Casperenoch

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I agree. Remove from 'Work History' but definitely ensure you put this in her 'Personal History' section of the application.
 

bxia33

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I have similar issue, I found my spouse NOC might not be the right one...

Right now, if I remove that , the optional documents fields will disappear...
 

xpressentry

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I am yet to enter the pool. My wife was self employed and started her own business. It would be difficult to get reference letters for her self employment and she would have to write a reference letter for herself as she is the director of her own company. Since I'm yet to enter the pool, would it make more sense to not add anything about her employment?
 

DelPiero07

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xpressentry said:
I am yet to enter the pool. My wife was self employed and started her own business. It would be difficult to get reference letters for her self employment and she would have to write a reference letter for herself as she is the director of her own company. Since I'm yet to enter the pool, would it make more sense to not add anything about her employment?
Do not add it in the work history section, once you receive your ITA add it in the personal history section. No documents will be required.
 

xpressentry

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DelPiero07 said:
Do not add it in the work history section, once you receive your ITA add it in the personal history section. No documents will be required.
Wouldn't that amount to misrepresentation? My wife and I are Indians living in the uk. I am my wife's dependent in the U.K. So she should have been doing something in the uk. For Canada, I am the principal application. We have to upload all our visas and stamps.
 

DelPiero07

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xpressentry said:
Wouldn't that amount to misrepresentation? My wife and I are Indians living in the uk. I am my wife's dependent in the U.K. So she should have been doing something in the uk. For Canada, I am the principal application. We have to upload all our visas and stamps.
I almost want to shoot myself for having to answer this question every week :p

No, it is not misrepresentation as you're clearly mentioning that work experience in the personal history section. You're the primary applicant so her foreign work experience is completely irrelevant to your application as it adds no points whatsoever.
 

Stanlee

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xpressentry said:
Wouldn't that amount to misrepresentation? My wife and I are Indians living in the uk. I am my wife's dependent in the U.K. So she should have been doing something in the uk. For Canada, I am the principal application. We have to upload all our visas and stamps.
Similar question has been answered before. Check the links below

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/ready-reference-steps-to-follow-and-documents-to-arrange-post-ita-t455826.0.html;msg5659351#msg5659351

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/ready-reference-steps-to-follow-and-documents-to-arrange-post-ita-t455826.0.html;msg5662504#msg5662504
 

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DelPiero07 said:
I almost want to shoot myself for having to answer this question every week :p

:D :D

No, it is not misrepresentation as you're clearly mentioning that work experience in the personal history section. You're the primary applicant so her foreign work experience is completely irrelevant to your application as it adds no points whatsoever.
:D

feels like sometimes people don't read the others subjects...
 

min1

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i mentioned in work history but just uploaded whatever docs i have of spouse (no ref letter just offer and few sal slip) then mentioned in LOE that it does not add to score.i did like this because how can i say NO to work history of spouse like in case can't they say it is misrepresentation although you are mentioning in personal history
 

DEEPCUR

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i mentioned in work history but just uploaded whatever docs i have of spouse (no ref letter just offer and few sal slip) then mentioned in LOE that it does not add to score.i did like this because how can i say NO to work history of spouse like in case can't they say it is misrepresentation although you are mentioning in personal history
Almost everyone does that. It's a waste of effort on your part to have on work for that document. Not putting there is not misrepresentation as they clearly have a section for things that don't give any points.

In fact many primary applicant themselves put only work experience that gives them points, and not everything.