NDP has minimal power to make dramatic changes especially ones that are not popular with the general population so I would be focusing on other party demands like BQ and PCP. PCP in particular doesn’t want to be seen as supporting the liberals but also doesn’t want to be known for not supporting immigration reforms. BQ could also be the party to push through b-12 or whatever bill it becomes in exchange for some concessions. This is why governments hate minority mandates.
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NDP has minimal power to make dramatic changes especially ones that are not popular with the general population so I would be focusing on other party demands like BQ and PCP. PCP in particular doesn’t want to be seen as supporting the liberals but also doesn’t want to be known for not supporting immigration reforms. BQ could also be the party to push through b-12 or whatever bill it becomes in exchange for some concessions. This is why governments hate minority mandates.
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Well, the only thing I've garnered from watching the committee debate this is we sorely need to improve the competency of Ministers (and politicians in general) we elect. What a gong show.
Same NDP that wants expiring work permit extended for skilled workers in PNP ontario .
Fortunately canada immigration and policies are built on survays and what the skateholders demands .
Immigration Lawyer Steven Meurrens from Vancouver wrote this post on LinkedIn today :
In February 2023, former Immigration Minister Sean Fraser issued a Public Policy directing IRCC to essentially bulk-approve all visitor visa applications submitted before January 16, 2023. The intent was to clear the massive pandemic-era backlog and "position Canada for a clean start."
Perhaps not surprisingly, many of those admitted under this policy later filed asylum claims at a higher-than-average rate. At the time, some observers suggested that IRCC likely would have preferred simply to cancel the pending applications altogether.
Bill C-12 now seeks to grant that very power, allowing the Governor in Council to cancel any applications still in process
as well as existing and valid visas, PR cards, work permits, study permits, and more.
This has raised reasonable concerns about whether IRCC might use this new authority to eliminate other backlogs, such as in the Humanitarian and Compassionate Class (with its 50-year processing time), Start-Up Business, or Self-Employed classes.
Questions have now logically arisen regarding whether IRCC will use Bill C-12's ability to cancel applications in these categories to terminate the backlogs.
During today's #CIMM meeting, Liberal MP Sameer Zuberi (who is impressive) asked Minister Diab if this was IRCC's plan. The Minister said no, and then went on to say that she wanted to be clear that Bill C-12 does not permit IRCC to cancel asylum claims, assuring claimants that their cases would not be affected. It is hard to tell what to make of her response.
The purpose of Bill C-12 remains unclear, apart from the fact that it grants sweeping new powers to government. As Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner pointed out, there are no safeguards. And of course, even if the government has no current intention to use these powers broadly to cancel application categories, it can always change its mind in the future.
At this point, the government appears to have three choices. It can increase admissions quotas in the above three categories to reduce backlogs. It can accept multi-decade processing times. Or it can cancel applications altogether. It's not unreasonable for people to be concerned that they will choose the latter
In February 2023, former Immigration Minister Sean Fraser issued a Public Policy directing IRCC to essentially bulk-approve all visitor visa applications submitted before January 16, 2023. The intent was to clear the massive pandemic-era backlog and "position Canada for a clean start."
Perhaps not surprisingly, many of those admitted under this policy later filed asylum claims at a higher-than-average rate. At the time, some observers suggested that IRCC likely would have preferred simply to cancel the pending applications altogether.
Bill C-12 now seeks to grant that very power, allowing the Governor in Council to cancel any applications still in process
as well as existing and valid visas, PR cards, work permits, study permits, and more.
This has raised reasonable concerns about whether IRCC might use this new authority to eliminate other backlogs, such as in the Humanitarian and Compassionate Class (with its 50-year processing time), Start-Up Business, or Self-Employed classes.
Questions have now logically arisen regarding whether IRCC will use Bill C-12's ability to cancel applications in these categories to terminate the backlogs.
During today's #CIMM meeting, Liberal MP Sameer Zuberi (who is impressive) asked Minister Diab if this was IRCC's plan. The Minister said no, and then went on to say that she wanted to be clear that Bill C-12 does not permit IRCC to cancel asylum claims, assuring claimants that their cases would not be affected. It is hard to tell what to make of her response.
The purpose of Bill C-12 remains unclear, apart from the fact that it grants sweeping new powers to government. As Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner pointed out, there are no safeguards. And of course, even if the government has no current intention to use these powers broadly to cancel application categories, it can always change its mind in the future.
At this point, the government appears to have three choices. It can increase admissions quotas in the above three categories to reduce backlogs. It can accept multi-decade processing times. Or it can cancel applications altogether. It's not unreasonable for people to be concerned that they will choose the latter
Sometimes I wonder why the government doesn’t just give permanent residence under public policy programs to people who are already here, who deserve it , and stop bringing new skilled workers from abroad for a while just to take time to review and fix the whole immigration system.
At this point, what’s done is done. I don’t think Bill C-12 will work miracles or really solve the problems.
Instead of going in circles and trying to look strict by cutting thousands of applications, speeding up deportations, and making policies that only add pressure to the legal system, why doesn’t IRCC simply regularize the people who are already here those who have lived here for a long time, who speak Canada’s languages, who are well integrated, who have a home, a job, studies, and family here?
Wouldn’t that help reduce the current social and economic crisis?
Why are the people already living here being seen as the problem, instead of the new ones IRCC keeps bringing from abroad even though we all know that many of them will end up in casual jobs, their diplomas won’t be recognized and it will take them a long time to integrate ?
At this point, what’s done is done. I don’t think Bill C-12 will work miracles or really solve the problems.
Instead of going in circles and trying to look strict by cutting thousands of applications, speeding up deportations, and making policies that only add pressure to the legal system, why doesn’t IRCC simply regularize the people who are already here those who have lived here for a long time, who speak Canada’s languages, who are well integrated, who have a home, a job, studies, and family here?
Wouldn’t that help reduce the current social and economic crisis?
Why are the people already living here being seen as the problem, instead of the new ones IRCC keeps bringing from abroad even though we all know that many of them will end up in casual jobs, their diplomas won’t be recognized and it will take them a long time to integrate ?
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I don’t know how many programs exist for people who are already in Canada, but even with all of them, the situation hasn’t improved especially with the points-based programs that ended up excluding many people with great potential. Some of them are even professors and researchers in universities and colleges!
Canadian Experience, Quebec Experience, the temporary residents stream of the Atlantic Immigration Program, the Rural and Northern Immigration stream, Arrima, the public policy for construction workers, the Home Care Worker programs, the programs of each province not to mention all the work permits, study permits, and endless procedures...
Post-graduation work permits, transitional work permits, bridge work permit, and many other kinds of work permits I can’t even name…
And after all that, we still end up in a crisis, with those affected being treated as if they were the problem!
Of course, I haven’t even mentioned the vulnerable ones the REAL humanitarian and asylum applicants who are often seen as useless or as a burden to society, as if they couldn’t contribute for this country …
I also forgot the new Francophone Rural Communities Program, where people will basically end up living in farming areas except for a few places that actually look decent.
Canadian Experience, Quebec Experience, the temporary residents stream of the Atlantic Immigration Program, the Rural and Northern Immigration stream, Arrima, the public policy for construction workers, the Home Care Worker programs, the programs of each province not to mention all the work permits, study permits, and endless procedures...
Post-graduation work permits, transitional work permits, bridge work permit, and many other kinds of work permits I can’t even name…
And after all that, we still end up in a crisis, with those affected being treated as if they were the problem!
Of course, I haven’t even mentioned the vulnerable ones the REAL humanitarian and asylum applicants who are often seen as useless or as a burden to society, as if they couldn’t contribute for this country …
I also forgot the new Francophone Rural Communities Program, where people will basically end up living in farming areas except for a few places that actually look decent.
New Ontario Driving Licence Rules Based on Immigration Status.
https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/new-ontario-driving-licence-rules-2026/
https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/new-ontario-driving-licence-rules-2026/
Its not impossible for the cancellation of backlogs with the proposed Bill C12. But the minister has clearly said that its not the intention! Nobody knows the actual intention of Bill C12 as regards the H&C, asylum, extended processing times and cancellation of the same. Lets all stop the speculations and focus on when it finally passes. bringing anxiety, worries and all sort is not the answer to the issue. I understand some of us are here to sensitize others on the potential pathways if H&C fails. We've all heard from the horses's mouth and if it changes otherwise then let it be.
I just wanted to share with you that I called MIFI, and they told me that my CSQ application has been approved. I’m truly grateful for this step, and I’m wishing the same good news for all of you soon. Keep believing, your turn is coming!
CSQ application was submitted August 2024
CSQ application was submitted August 2024
Congratulations Taweda! What is next step in your journey to PR?
Phenomenal, you are one the hundreds of thousands she lured IRCC BY using fraudulent documents and forgery IDs just to get in canada and its very clear you are one of them without further investigation as soon as you initiate citizenship application they will catch you , just wait and watch the game you will see how bill c12 treat you they way you deservedIf they include fraud PRs who later became citizens, I'm afraid, the number is in hundreds of thousands and that'll be a backlog of a decade for removal
I encourage everybody whose care about safety our community and safety our street report this troll to Canadian Anti- Fraud Center to protect our immigration system from those people
so troll, you think bill c12 will cancel PRs but can not cancel AIPs and applications? use ur wisdom , silly
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