Genuinely curious what stream they have said is an option? Assume you also realize that any Canadian education or work experience while an asylum claimant would not be able be able to used for points.
Can a protected person apply for PR through PNP or Express Entry
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Genuinely curious what stream they have said is an option? Assume you also realize that any Canadian education or work experience while an asylum claimant would not be able be able to used for points.
According to the lawyer, if you can achieve the required score for any PNP or PTSQ program, you are eligible to apply.
There is no conflict with your current protected person status — you simply need to withdraw your existing PR application before submitting a new one. Your protected status will remain valid.
You may use your RTD instead of your national passport. I personally haven’t done this yet, but it is an available option for those who meet the eligibility requirements and wish to transition to another immigration stream to expedite the process.
Based on my experience with a legal consultant,
Anyway, you can either accept it or not — but honestly, it’s better to pay a small amount and ask someone who has the proper skills, like an immigration lawyer.
and I’m done with this pointless conversation.
If that was the case most would still not qualify purely based on not being able to count any of the experience while an asylum claimant especially given how long processing times have been.
You’re right that for someone who is still in the process of getting protected status, it’s not possible to apply through another immigration stream yet.
But for someone who has already been granted protected person status, it may be possible.
PR through the protected person pathway is guaranteed, even though it takes excessively long.
However, applying through another stream doesn’t guarantee approval — so it must be done carefully and with proper legal advice.
But for someone who has already been granted protected person status, it may be possible.
PR through the protected person pathway is guaranteed, even though it takes excessively long.
However, applying through another stream doesn’t guarantee approval — so it must be done carefully and with proper legal advice.
Thank you @Maxnajafi and @canuck78
I actually did consult 3-4 lawyers (not cheap immigration consultants) before applying for PR as a protected person. The conclusion was that it was not possible. One main reason for this was that I would, as part of the process, have to use my original passport (which is seized by IRCC and which I should not use for any reason anyway).
I know very well that IRCC is overwhelmed with unprecedented workloads across all their divisions; however, I hope that they could have have some criteria in place to allow protected persons to bridge to PR using a 'facilitated' economic pathway.
Not all refugee claimants/ protected persons are a burden to Canada. Thousands of this category are not in need any financial assistance from the government. Thousands are well-educated professionals already in high-skilled jobs in Canada, already integrated in the community, waiting for PR possibly to be able to get professional accreditation which is not possible without PR. Thousands may be in a good financial standing to bring their families to Canada.
At the same time, the plan is to welcome around 380,000 new 'immigrants'. Canada definitely needs new immigrants because of several factors, thousands are leaving for various reasons, the aging population, etc.
I remember that I read once a statement by the immigration minister that 60% of these new comers will be from inside Canada. Maybe the minister was referring basically to international 'students'. I hope that there will be somehow a way to consider also 'eligible' protected persons to fall under this classification with certain criteria in place, such as language proficiency, higher education, working in high-skilled jobs in Canada, having the sufficient financial resources, etc.
In this way, refugees (protected persons) will definitely be an addition, not a burden, to Canada.
I actually did consult 3-4 lawyers (not cheap immigration consultants) before applying for PR as a protected person. The conclusion was that it was not possible. One main reason for this was that I would, as part of the process, have to use my original passport (which is seized by IRCC and which I should not use for any reason anyway).
I know very well that IRCC is overwhelmed with unprecedented workloads across all their divisions; however, I hope that they could have have some criteria in place to allow protected persons to bridge to PR using a 'facilitated' economic pathway.
Not all refugee claimants/ protected persons are a burden to Canada. Thousands of this category are not in need any financial assistance from the government. Thousands are well-educated professionals already in high-skilled jobs in Canada, already integrated in the community, waiting for PR possibly to be able to get professional accreditation which is not possible without PR. Thousands may be in a good financial standing to bring their families to Canada.
At the same time, the plan is to welcome around 380,000 new 'immigrants'. Canada definitely needs new immigrants because of several factors, thousands are leaving for various reasons, the aging population, etc.
I remember that I read once a statement by the immigration minister that 60% of these new comers will be from inside Canada. Maybe the minister was referring basically to international 'students'. I hope that there will be somehow a way to consider also 'eligible' protected persons to fall under this classification with certain criteria in place, such as language proficiency, higher education, working in high-skilled jobs in Canada, having the sufficient financial resources, etc.
In this way, refugees (protected persons) will definitely be an addition, not a burden, to Canada.
Actually I am visiting this forum like I used to in the past. I find it compelling to say thank you to @canuck78 for all his comments across all the sections of the forum.
I know that so many members here consider him as spreading negativity, pessimism and despair. For me, I respect this more than spreading false promises, fancy optimism and unrealistic hopes.
He is realistic. The recent 'shock' from the IRCC's revised processing times was big, but he always anticipated this in his comments for at least the past 2 years or even more. He simply relies on facts, numbers, statistics. These all were leading to the inevitable, unfavorable conclusion.
He has knowledge, he is well-experienced, and he has been helpful to members here, definitely in the other sections of the forum not only the Refugee section.
In this comment, I am not trying to defend him. He does not need it anyway!!
I am simply asking all the members to re-read his comments from a neutral, objective and factual perspective.
At the same time, I am really grateful to other members here who dedicate part of their valuable time to help the other members, like @theclaimer @scylla and so many others.
I know that so many members here consider him as spreading negativity, pessimism and despair. For me, I respect this more than spreading false promises, fancy optimism and unrealistic hopes.
He is realistic. The recent 'shock' from the IRCC's revised processing times was big, but he always anticipated this in his comments for at least the past 2 years or even more. He simply relies on facts, numbers, statistics. These all were leading to the inevitable, unfavorable conclusion.
He has knowledge, he is well-experienced, and he has been helpful to members here, definitely in the other sections of the forum not only the Refugee section.
In this comment, I am not trying to defend him. He does not need it anyway!!
I am simply asking all the members to re-read his comments from a neutral, objective and factual perspective.
At the same time, I am really grateful to other members here who dedicate part of their valuable time to help the other members, like @theclaimer @scylla and so many others.
Protected persons can apply under PNP programs, some of which rely on background education and job offer in demand field.
I agree with what you mentioned, except the use of original passport. Protected persons can use their original passport if still valid for PR application under different stream such as PNP, H and C, etc. The use and renewal of original passport for PR and ID purposes (not travel) does not imply reavailment.
It doesn't matter if you never went back to your home country. By applying to renew your home passport, you accepted the country's protection, thus negating your claim of refugee status. Your file could and can still get referred to cessation when you apply for Citizenship.. It has consequences.
Please double check your options before posting it publicly so you don’t mislead people. You CANNOT renew your home country passport as a protected person. This would be a costly mistake.
It is not exactly zero advantage. The reason is that it will normally take 4-5 years for my family to join me in Canada (this is before the revised estimated processing time, now it will take them up to 11-12 years to join me in Canada). However, through a different immigration stream (EE or PNP), the whole process may take only around 12-18 months.
I hope that IRCC will launch a stream similar to EMPP especially for protected persons who have higher education, many years of relevant (outside Canada) experience, working in high-skilled jobs in Canada, with English or French proficiency (and possibly knowledge of a second language) and adequate financial resources for expedited processing of their PR.