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gnanacapr

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Dec 13, 2022
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Hi everyone. I didn't met the RO and stayed 1180 outside canada in past 5 years. I'll be landing in YVR on 27 June. My question is,

  1. Will they check my status and find that I didn't meet the RO and report it to IRCC for revocation of PR status 44(1).
  2. I have landed in YVR 2 times before as PR with PR card. As far as i remember, both the times, I only fill out the customs form at the automated kiosk, then collect my baggage and hand over the customs form from the kiosk to the CBSA agent before leaving. No other questions were asked and I remember I didn't met any immigration officer or someone who checked my PR card or Passport. I only met an immigration officer the first time I land in canada to activate my PR with COPR.
  3. I so, can I exit the airport without being reported and can apply for PR card renewal after meeting 730 days requirement.
 
1) Yes, that's possible but not certain
2) Correct but note it's possible for the officer whom you hand the ticket to to ask you any question they like. It's also possible the kiosk will flag you for further questioning, but the exact processes they use are not public.
3) Yes, if you are not reported you should stay in Canada and wait with PR card renewal until you meet the RO
 
1) Yes, that's possible but not certain
2) Correct but note it's possible for the officer whom you hand the ticket to to ask you any question they like. It's also possible the kiosk will flag you for further questioning, but the exact processes they use are not public.
3) Yes, if you are not reported you should stay in Canada and wait with PR card renewal until you meet the RO
So, when I scan my PR card and passport at the kiosk, the system can find out that I didn't met my RO and flag me. But, the CBSA oficer just stands near the exit area and collects the declaration form from everone leaving. I remember both the time I land in YVR as PR, I just gave my declaration form from the kiosk to the CBSA officer. He didn't check my PR or passport or whether I met my Residency Obligation etc. He didn't even check my declaration form.
 
First up: you seem to think that you are not at risk for being reported based on your recollection of how the process at YVR works. I'm telling you this is not the case.

There absolutely is a chance that you will be reported due to your non-compliance with the RO. It is true we get reports that people manage to enter Canada via air successfully despite not being in compliance, but other people also get reported. The chances are impossible to quantify because there simply is no data.

I strongly recommend you are prepared and expect that you will be sent to secondary inspection, and are able to concisely present your reasons for not being in compliance. It may very well not happen, but it absolutely could.

As for the process at YVR:
  • The kiosk prints out a ticket. You will notice it has codes on it. This code likely tells the offer at a glance whether they need to send you to secondary inspection for immigration, or later for customs purposes
  • When you leave the immigration area, before bag collection, an officer will look at your ticket (and specifically the codes printed on it) and make a decision whether or not to send you to secondary inspection for immigration. It is at this stage that you may get into trouble for not meeting RO. The officer may ask you questions if the code warrants it.
  • After this steps, you hold onto your ticket, collect your checked bags and then you finally hand the ticket to another officer before you exit the customs area. The officers may only briefly glance at the ticket, but they can also send you to secondary inspection for customs purposes, i.e. for anything you carry in your baggage or on your person. It would be unusual for your RO to be questioned during such a secondary inspection, but it is possible.
In other words, your memory of how the process works is incomplete, and you can definitely be sent to secondary, with the risk of being reported.
 
^^This. If it has the code for secondary inspection, you WILL be sent to secondary. If not, probably not, but still could be.
 
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