Refugee claim.

[Virk19]

Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a good life.

I am an international student here in Canada, I came here in 2023 and my study permit is expiring tomorrow. I haven’t shared my situation with anyone yet so just writing it here.

I lost my grandfather last year and I couldn’t really study due to emotional stress and financial issues. I am not enrolled in college since January and now my study permit is expiring today.
Before that I lost my mother and grandmother in a year before covid. My life hasn’t really been nice to me and I haven’t been nice to my life too after that.

I am in an interfaith relationship from 4 years and I am a sikh and my gf is muslim. We can’t have a life in my country as it’s not allowed there and it’s getting worse there with religions.

If I go back to my country, all I will have is mental illness and difficulties and will not be able to marry someone I love and she is the only one after my father and sisters who cares about me.

I am a disappointment for real I know. I am thinking to claim refuge in Canada as it’s the only option that could save my life. Kindly please let me know if there is anything that could help me.

I hope you all keep smiling and shining.

 

[scylla]

Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a good life.

I am an international student here in Canada, I came here in 2023 and my study permit is expiring tomorrow. I haven’t shared my situation with anyone yet so just writing it here.

I lost my grandfather last year and I couldn’t really study due to emotional stress and financial issues. I am not enrolled in college since January and now my study permit is expiring today.
Before that I lost my mother and grandmother in a year before covid. My life hasn’t really been nice to me and I haven’t been nice to my life too after that.

I am in an interfaith relationship from 4 years and I am a sikh and my gf is muslim. We can’t have a life in my country as it’s not allowed there and it’s getting worse there with religions.

If I go back to my country, all I will have is mental illness and difficulties and will not be able to marry someone I love and she is the only one after my father and sisters who cares about me.

I am a disappointment for real I know. I am thinking to claim refuge in Canada as it’s the only option that could save my life. Kindly please let me know if there is anything that could help me.

I hope you all keep smiling and shining.

For a refugee claim to be successful, there's a fairly high bar on what evidence you need to provide to support your case. It may make sense to seek legal advice.

Are you common law or married to your girlfriend? To be common law, you must have lived together continuously for at least one full year. I assume she will be a dependent in your refugee application. What is her status in Canada presently? Do you have evidence that shows the two of you have already faced persecution in your home country or will you be relying on general country conditions?

 

[Virk19]

For a refugee claim to be successful, there's a fairly high bar on what evidence you need to provide to support your case. It may make sense to seek legal advice.

Are you common law or married to your girlfriend? To be common law, you must have lived together continuously for at least one full year. I assume she will be a dependent in your refugee application. What is her status in Canada presently? Do you have evidence that shows the two of you have already faced persecution in your home country or will you be relying on general country conditions?

Thank you for replying.

She’s still back home and studying and dependent on her family and her family is religious and won’t allow her to marry me there. We have met for a year yes when I was there but like lived together. Not direct prosecution threats but yes generally it’s dangerous and have witnessed some things based on caste but it’s more than that as it’s interfaith not intercaste and too Islam.

 

[scylla]

Thank you for replying.

She’s still back home and studying and dependent on her family and her family is religious and won’t allow her to marry me there. We have met for a year yes when I was there but like lived together. Not direct prosecution threats but yes generally it’s dangerous and have witnessed some things based on caste but it’s more than that as it’s interfaith not intercaste and too Islam.

I'm not clear from what you have written above in you have lived together for a year continuously or not.

 

[rcincanada2019]

Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a good life.

I am an international student here in Canada, I came here in 2023 and my study permit is expiring tomorrow. I haven’t shared my situation with anyone yet so just writing it here.

I lost my grandfather last year and I couldn’t really study due to emotional stress and financial issues. I am not enrolled in college since January and now my study permit is expiring today.
Before that I lost my mother and grandmother in a year before covid. My life hasn’t really been nice to me and I haven’t been nice to my life too after that.

I am in an interfaith relationship from 4 years and I am a sikh and my gf is muslim. We can’t have a life in my country as it’s not allowed there and it’s getting worse there with religions.

If I go back to my country, all I will have is mental illness and difficulties and will not be able to marry someone I love and she is the only one after my father and sisters who cares about me.

I am a disappointment for real I know. I am thinking to claim refuge in Canada as it’s the only option that could save my life. Kindly please let me know if there is anything that could help me.

I hope you all keep smiling and shining.

This is just my opinion.

I don't think claiming refugee would be your best bet. With rising claims of asylum from international students with expiring permits (https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/asylum-claims-by-international-students-in-canada/) , your application would definitely be scrutinized more than the other asylum claimants. Are you being persecuted in any way right now? Is there a threat against your life from your home country?

If I may suggest, concentrate on your education, even if its hard given your current situation, finish your degree and get PGWP. Then get at least a year of Canadian experience and create EE profile and/or look at PNPs.

Again, just my opinion.

 

[Virk19]

I'm not clear from what you have written above in you have lived together for a year continuously or not.

I meant we have met for a year when I was back home. Just have met like every month but not stayed or lived together consistently.

 

[Virk19]

This is just my opinion.

I don't think claiming refugee would be your best bet. With rising claims of asylum from international students with expiring permits (https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/asylum-claims-by-international-students-in-canada/) , your application would definitely be scrutinized more than the other asylum claimants. Are you being persecuted in any way right now? Is there a threat against your life from your home country?

If I may suggest, concentrate on your education, even if its hard given your current situation, finish your degree and get PGWP. Then get at least a year of Canadian experience and create EE profile and/or look at PNPs.

Again, just my opinion.

I know yea, I am also wanting to study but I have no financial resources and my gap is also growing, it’s already been 120 days since I am not enrolled and I had applied for the extension but it got rejected because I am not enrolled.

I wish to study but I am not sure if there is any way I could.

Kindly please let me know if you think this is possible.

I am studying French by my own tho and I might be there in few months but nowadays I am just stressed about all this stuff and can’t do anything at all.

 

[scylla]

I meant we have met for a year when I was back home. Just have met like every month but not stayed or lived together consistently.

I'll be honest. I don't think you have a strong refugee claim. It would be different if you were married or common law and had evidence that you yourselves had been persecuted as a couple. However you are just dating at this point and don't have evidence specific to you.

Are there other options you have looked at such as a destitute student work permit if you meet the requirements? Did you get a formal leave of absence from your school and is it an option to restart your studies?

The refugee process is very long and you won't be able to leave Canada during most of it and certainly won't be able to return to your home country. You will most likely be separated from your gf for many years with likely a very low chance the claim will be approved.

I would recommend exploring other options. I don't think the refugee claim will be a positive outcome for you. Of course ultimately your choice. Good luck.

 

[Virk19]

I'll be honest. I don't think you have a strong refugee claim. It would be different if you were married or common law and had evidence that you yourselves had been persecuted as a couple. However you are just dating at this point and don't have evidence specific to you.

Are there other options you have looked at such as a destitute student work permit if you meet the requirements? Did you get a formal leave of absence from your school and is it an option to restart your studies?

The refugee process is very long and you won't be able to leave Canada during most of it and certainly won't be able to return to your home country. You will most likely be separated from your gf for many years with likely a very low chance the claim will be approved.

I would recommend exploring other options. I don't think the refugee claim will be a positive outcome for you. Of course ultimately your choice. Good luck.

I am wanting to do this either but this is the only option and I don’t wanna be separated for so long. I have my sisters and father there too and they will be suffering financially because of me if I don’t do my life better.

Yea I think about applying for the destitute work permit and I can apply for the extension too but as I have been out of college for 120 days and still not enrolled and my college’s registration date is till May 2 which is 3 days so I see it as impossible to getting back in college.

Do you think there’s any chance I could apply for extension and get enrolled into any other college and apply for the work permit? I may need new study permit for that too I think which isn’t something too easy or really possible as of the circumstances I have?

I just wish to study and regret wasting all the time but it’s done the only thing I care about is my love and my family and thinking to change all for them.

 

[rcincanada2019]

I know yea, I am also wanting to study but I have no financial resources and my gap is also growing, it’s already been 120 days since I am not enrolled and I had applied for the extension but it got rejected because I am not enrolled.

I wish to study but I am not sure if there is any way I could.

Kindly please let me know if you think this is possible.

I am studying French by my own tho and I might be there in few months but nowadays I am just stressed about all this stuff and can’t do anything at all.

As @scylla commented above, try to check if you can qualify for destitute student.

IMHO, don't claim asylum unless you really need asylum.

 

[Virk19]

As @scylla commented above, try to check if you can qualify for destitute student.

IMHO, don't claim asylum unless you really need asylum.

Yea I will not. I will only try my best to do the right and honest thing. I was thinking all this because I am struggling and stressed but at the end it feels being dishonest and lying to myself. I will try to find if there’s any other option and if I have go back, I think this will not be the end of the world.

Do let me know about the way I could extend my current study permit tho and the work permit for destitute student.

Thank you for your time and honest advices

 

[scylla]

I am wanting to do this either but this is the only option and I don’t wanna be separated for so long. I have my sisters and father there too and they will be suffering financially because of me if I don’t do my life better.

Yea I think about applying for the destitute work permit and I can apply for the extension too but as I have been out of college for 120 days and still not enrolled and my college’s registration date is till May 2 which is 3 days so I see it as impossible to getting back in college.

Do you think there’s any chance I could apply for extension and get enrolled into any other college and apply for the work permit? I may need new study permit for that too I think which isn’t something too easy or really possible as of the circumstances I have?

I just wish to study and regret wasting all the time but it’s done the only thing I care about is my love and my family and thinking to change all for them.

I would speak to a lawyer. Your situation is complicated since you are only taking action now vs January.

Did you obtain an official leave from your school when you stopped attending? If not, there is a chance you are already out of status.

 

[Virk19]

I would speak to a lawyer. Your situation is complicated since you are only taking action now vs January.

Did you obtain an official leave from your school when you stopped attending? If not, there is a chance you are already out of status.

Yes please.

I should have taken action earlier yea.

I asked my college but they didn’t respond about it so I didn’t get the authorization letter from them which makes my situation worse.

 

[scylla]

Yea I will not. I will only try my best to do the right and honest thing. I was thinking all this because I am struggling and stressed but at the end it feels being dishonest and lying to myself. I will try to find if there’s any other option and if I have go back, I think this will not be the end of the world.

Do let me know about the way I could extend my current study permit tho and the work permit for destitute student.

Thank you for your time and honest advices

Please read the requirements of the destitute study permit closely. It's not enough, to the best of my understanding, to lose your funding due to a family situation. I believe there needs to be a country condition as well. But I'm not an expert. Make sure you read the requirements on the IRCC site in detail.

In terms of a sturdy permit extension, I think it's too late for that if your study permit is expiring today. It doesn't sound like you could possibly have all of the paperwork pulled together today as well as proof of funds to apply. It also sounds like your previous study permit extension was refused. Is that right?

 

[Virk19]

Please read the requirements of the destitute study permit closely. It's not enough, to the best of my understanding, to lose your funding due to a family situation. I believe there needs to be a country condition as well. But I'm not an expert. Make sure you read the requirements on the IRCC site in detail.

In terms of a sturdy permit extension, I think it's too late for that if your study permit is expiring today. It doesn't sound like you could possibly have all of the paperwork pulled together today as well as proof of funds to apply. It also sounds like your previous study permit extension was refused. Is that right?

I read the requirements yea, it has to be due to loss of financial resources due to circumstances out of control or loss of financial sponsor and resources.

Would it be okay to apply for the extension and the work permit today and then adding the additional documents later? such as enrolment letter and everything?

Yes my study permit extension was rejected, it said I am not enrolled that’s why it’s refused.