November 2024 - Citizenship Applications

[USProgrammer]

I always said I wanted the e-certificate because you don't have to send off your "original" for a passport, and also because it can be infinitely backed up and printed. However, I am going through the passport application for the occupation-based guarantor form (PPTC 140) and it states in the requirements checklist:

Proof of Canadian citizenship; the document will be returned to you

• Birth certificate: ORIGINAL
• Citizenship certificate, if issued:
  • Before February 1, 2012: ORIGINAL
  • On or after February 1, 2012: ORIGINAL OR COPY (emphasis mine)

So I guess one benefit of the e-certificate that I thought was there is not real. I just wanted to update since I had misinformed, thinking you had to send your original certificate if you get a paper certificate. I'm not sure if this applies to the regular passport forms. Too bad I couldn't use the "citizenship to passport pilot" I was invited to; I wouldn't even need a guarantor.

Hmm. The form says "Note: Copies of Canadian citizenship certificates are accepted if the certificate number begins with a K or an X."

Could someone who got a paper certificate recently tell me what theirs starts with? I'm back to not knowing whether or not most people can submit a copy of a paper certificate.

 

[moman21]

It works right now on mobile for me. On PC, if you use the network inspector in your browser, you'll see it's an error coming back from their CloudFront CDN. I believe the error is technical in nature (as a Software Architect), and not a hack.

It's still down on mobile and pc for me.

 

[kamy]

It works right now on mobile for me. On PC, if you use the network inspector in your browser, you'll see it's an error coming back from their CloudFront CDN. I believe the error is technical in nature (as a Software Architect), and not a hack.

This still doesn't work for me

 

[kamy]

Hmm. The form says "Note: Copies of Canadian citizenship certificates are accepted if the certificate number begins with a K or an X."

Could someone who got a paper certificate recently tell me what theirs starts with? I'm back to not knowing whether or not most people can submit a copy of a paper certificate.

My spouse's paper cert starts with K, we submitted passport application in person and showed the certificate

 

[USProgrammer]

My spouse's paper cert starts with K, we submitted passport application in person and showed the certificate

Nice, so hopefully most people, if mailing, could mail a copy of the paper certificate, removing one of the benefits of the e-certificate.

 

[usmm]

Hmm. The form says "Note: Copies of Canadian citizenship certificates are accepted if the certificate number begins with a K or an X."

Could someone who got a paper certificate recently tell me what theirs starts with? I'm back to not knowing whether or not most people can submit a copy of a paper certificate.

i think that you have to bring orignal certificate they will see and service canada they have photo copie machine you can copy it they take just copy
when i apply for my son they see orignal borth cerificate but they take just copy

 

[usmm]

i think that you have to bring orignal certificate they will see and service canada they have photo copie machine you can copy it they take just copy
when i apply for my son they see orignal borth cerificate but they take just copy

they will not keep orignal certificate

 

[usmm]

This still doesn't work for me

its not work same error

 

[USProgrammer]

i think that you have to bring orignal certificate they will see and service canada they have photo copie machine you can copy it they take just copy
when i apply for my son they see orignal borth cerificate but they take just copy

My comments were only about mailed applications.

 

[usmm]

My comments were only about mailed applications.

ok i dont read your whole comment

 

[armoured]

Hmm. The form says "Note: Copies of Canadian citizenship certificates are accepted if the certificate number begins with a K or an X."

Could someone who got a paper certificate recently tell me what theirs starts with? I'm back to not knowing whether or not most people can submit a copy of a paper certificate.

For family member: starts with a K. Also has barcodes at the bottom (for both certificate # and date of birth).

I wrote somewhere here recently that I thought they would do exactly this: that the 'paper' certificates would be accepted in copy because clearly they'd been designed for digital usage. I even guessed that they'd just limit the copy usage for ones of a certain series/issued after a certain date.

And if so: advantage of an e-certificate over a paper one is precisely zero, it seems.

So I'm going with: confirmed.

 

[USProgrammer]

For family member: starts with a K. Also has barcodes at the bottom (for both certificate # and date of birth).

I wrote somewhere here recently that I thought they would do exactly this: that the 'paper' certificates would be accepted in copy because clearly they'd been designed for digital usage. I even guessed that they'd just limit the copy usage for ones of a certain series/issued after a certain date.

And if so: advantage of an e-certificate over a paper one is precisely zero, it seems.

So I'm going with: confirmed.

I agree. It seems like a high-quality scan of a paper certificate, backed up, would serve the same purpose as an e-certificate, at this point.

However, I'm still happy with my forever-"perfect" e-certificate PDF.

Does the physical certificate have any distinctive features, like special color changing ink/holograms/embossing or anything? I'm thinking about having mine printed in high quality at a print shop and framing it.

 

[armoured]

I agree. It seems like a high-quality scan of a paper certificate, backed up, would serve the same purpose as an e-certificate, at this point.

However, I'm still happy with my forever-"perfect" e-certificate PDF.

Does the physical certificate have any distinctive features, like special color changing ink/holograms/embossing or anything? I'm thinking about having mine printed in high quality at a print shop and framing it.

Do you consider colour a special feature?

I only have a scan as I was asked to do that. I don't recall in detail the rest. If it has special features, it's nothing as elaborate as the passport biopages.

I do recall the front page is a b**** to scan in blakc and white, it has a complex background - basically has to be greyscale or colour. The second page is fine, and of course the barcodes will be fine in B&W though. (The front page is the pretty ceremonial bit, only functional bits are the name of bearer and the certificate# -both of which are on the back.)

I've not yet seen an e-certificate so can't compare.

 

[USProgrammer]

Do you consider colour a special feature?

I only have a scan as I was asked to do that. I don't recall in detail the rest. If it has special features, it's nothing as elaborate as the passport biopages.

I do recall the front page is a b**** to scan in blakc and white, it has a complex background - basically has to be greyscale or colour. The second page is fine, and of course the barcodes will be fine in B&W though. (The front page is the pretty ceremonial bit, only functional bits are the name of bearer and the certificate# -both of which are on the back.)

I've not yet seen an e-certificate so can't compare.

My e-certificate is the exact same as you described, except there's no "back". It's just page 2.

When thinking about printing to frame it, I was thinking about doing it side by side, since the top of page 2 has the oath in both languages and "This certificate is evidence that the person named hereon is a Canadian citizen." below it and then all my UCI / certificate # stuff.

The background on page 1 I can see would be a problem to scan. It's a light blue gradient with white fleur de lis.

 

[Don Quixote]

The tracker this morning...

THought it was only on our end
Hopefully it does get fixed with long awaited updates.