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Miller was waffling on the topic of PGWP extensions too and said he won't commit to anything yet, maybe no extensions anymore. I doubt that the movement will have any impact at all on the decision over PGWP. Last year, a lot of MPs were advocating for PGWP extensions by this time of the year which eventually lead to another extension. That's not the case this year.
It is their policies that got the temporary migrant population in Canada to overshadow both, the annual permanent resident intake and the indigenous population of Canada. Fraser and his predecessors messed up the immigration system so bad that immigration has the chance of becoming an election issue pretty soon. This has never happened in two decades. Miller is toast if he commits to an extension when the liberals are on their way to being relegated to minority party status. They cannot solve housing without a deep reduction in the number of temporary migrants. He has to find a way to politely ask those on temporary permits to leave once their visas expire. It’s a major screw up by the Liberal government and now Miller has to fix it.
 

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Post ITA question:

Guys In Police Clearance Certificate.

What should be written:

1. This person has been living at XYZ address from 01.01.2000 till To date .
OR
2. This person has been living at XYZ address from 01.01.2000 till 31.10.2023.

Kindly advise.
 

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BetterDwelling just released an article showing Canadian Intl Student applications have dropped sharply.
Something like 21% drop from India, the largest source of the category.

Imo I think Indians have figured out how to game the system. More and more are coming here on Tourist Visas and gunning to get an LMIA because that is a better and CHEAPER path to PR according to them. Personally in touch with a few who have done that, and they are from a South Indian state (not Punjab. )
 

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For all the jumping up and down of "new" Canadians trying to be more Canadian than Old Growth Canadians themselves, Even at this peak of anti immigration sentiment / wave, more than half of the country still does not think that higher immigration is a problem.
The monetary benefits of immigration is deeply entrenched in this country.
Agreed!! But..

My boomer bosses and colleagues LOVE the immigration. Heck they would get in even more immigrants if possible.
It keeps the wages low and the demand especially of housing high and guarantees their multi million retirement plans.

The anti immigrant wave is mostly coming from the people who don't own much. And you don't have a voice when you are not worth a lot so..

All this immigration and the country has entered a technical recession officially going by today's GDP numbers.
 
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For all the jumping up and down of "new" Canadians trying to be more Canadian than Old Growth Canadians themselves, Even at this peak of anti immigration sentiment / wave, more than half of the country still does not think that higher immigration is a problem.



Source : https://www.cicnews.com/2023/10/support-for-immigration-in-canada-has-dropped-since-last-year-1040562.html#gs.7ob9hg

The monetary benefits of immigration is deeply entrenched in this country.

When I was viewing houses, most Canadians I met told us how happy they really are that we(immigrants) are coming here. Their lives have changed for good because everything they own has grown in value and they are no longer living on blue collar standards. So there's definitely a side to that conversation.
 

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Agreed!! But..

My boomer bosses and colleagues LOVE the immigration. Heck they would get in even more immigrants if possible.
It keeps the wages low and the demand especially of housing high and guarantees their multi million retirement plans.

The anti immigrant wave is mostly coming from the people who don't own much. And you don't have a voice when you are not worth a lot so..

All this immigration and the country has entered a technical recession officially going by today's GDP numbers.
Well, good thing in Canada is that there are only 40 million of them. And each person counts more in elections than say in USA (lets not even think about India... you know how we count there). So yes, if there were enough folks who were impacted they would have showed up in elections etc.

What has changed from 2022 is that the folks who are house-have-nots have become more vocal and stronger at yelling it (remember, house ownership in Canada is still 66.5% or more -- https://www.statista.com/statistics/198969/home-ownership-rate-in-canada-since-2003).

That and together with rising cost of living due to inflation and high interest rates the voices have come in unison.
 

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All this immigration and the country has entered a technical recession officially going by today's GDP numbers.
You know, I am not that well educated in economics and finance but one thing is for certain. This slowdown is not natural and is manufactured. By raising interest rates. I know some can say that growth (economic not only housing price) of last 10 or 20 years was un-natural but still what is happening here is that BoC has hit the brakes hard on money supply.

Why it matters? All it will take is them taking the foot off the brake and economy will roar again.

The weird part is that Canada is taking a money supply only approach to the food and housing inflation. Lots of options are still on the table but they are not being looked into. Things like boosting land supply. Boosting food supply by offering subsidies to farmers to grow more vegetables. Things like building more storage facilities to store veggies for winter months.
 
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BetterDwelling just released an article showing Canadian Intl Student applications have dropped sharply.
Something like 21% drop from India, the largest source of the category.

Imo I think Indians have figured out how to game the system. More and more are coming here on Tourist Visas and gunning to get an LMIA because that is a better and CHEAPER path to PR according to them. Personally in touch with a few who have done that, and they are from a South Indian state (not Punjab. )
They will drop, India itself has forced that to drop by reducing staff in the Canadian consulates.

Canada has a policy in place till Oct 2025 to allow people to move to Work Permit from Visitor visa while being in Canada. It helps a lot.
 

abhiram.kumar

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For all the jumping up and down of "new" Canadians trying to be more Canadian than Old Growth Canadians themselves, Even at this peak of anti immigration sentiment / wave, more than half of the country still does not think that higher immigration is a problem.



Source : https://www.cicnews.com/2023/10/support-for-immigration-in-canada-has-dropped-since-last-year-1040562.html#gs.7ob9hg

The monetary benefits of immigration is deeply entrenched in this country.

You’re missing the point. No one in Canada, including new immigrants, is against immigrants or immigration as a whole. Canada is probably the most immigrant friendly country in the world. What people are against is the current scale of immigration encouraged by the Canadian government in the past 3 years. You’re living in La La land if you think boomers are a homogeneous voting block who only care about home equity. Many are appalled by the fact that their children and grandchildren are experiencing a massive decline in living standards. Immigration is not the sole cause of the housing crisis but the Liberal government has turbo charged it and made it ten times worse by dumping millions of people into the country without any planning or investment in infrastructure. Housing is only one aspect of infrastructure, there’s also healthcare, schools, public transit etc. This plan of the Liberals will backfire immensely if they don’t get it right. A perfect example of this is Sweden. They were the most pro immigrant country in the world and they engaged themselves in a massive demographic experiment which failed spectacularly. The entire country, within a span of 10 years or more, turned on all immigration and elected an anti immigrant party. The Liberals are treading on dangerous waters.
 

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You’re missing the point. No one in Canada, including new immigrants, is against immigrants or immigration as a whole. Canada is probably the most immigrant friendly country in the world. What people are against is the current scale of immigration encouraged by the Canadian government in the past 3 years.
Errr... When MORE THAN half of the country is saying "We disagree that there is overall too much immigration in Canada". I do not see how you conclude that "people are against is the current scale of immigration encouraged by the Canadian government in the past 3 years".

Majority are STILL in favour at current level of immigration. After ALL this inflation etc etc etc.

Its not a question of "immigrant friendly" or even "anti immigrant" but majority still being in favour of current level of immigration.

You’re living in La La land if you think boomers are a homogeneous voting block who only care about home equity. Many are appalled by the fact that their children and grandchildren are experiencing a massive decline in living standards. Immigration is not the sole cause of the housing crisis but the Liberal government has turbo charged it and made it ten times worse by dumping millions of people into the country without any planning or investment in infrastructure. Housing is only one aspect of infrastructure, there’s also healthcare, schools, public transit etc. This plan of the Liberals will backfire immensely if they don’t get it right. A
Lets see it objectively.

What the hell do you mean by weasel words like "many" or "homogenous"? Many literally means "large number of", whatever large is.
"Many" in Canada might believe that having sex with their mother is A-Okay. Does it means Canada as a whole feels its A-Okay to be a motherfucker? I doubt that!

Majority in Canada are still okay with current level of immigration. And my dear, you are living in La-La land if you think you can claim what so ever without a single shred of evidence.

It does not matter if any particular age group is homogenous in opinion on immigration or not, what really matter is that majority is still not against keeping the current level of immigration AFTER all of the food inflation, healthcare and house price boom in past 3-4 years.

You can jump up and down as much as you want, but Canada as a country still want the current level of immigration. Liberals even with their massive unpopularity are not very willing to bring it down (atleast seen by the statement of their Immigration minister). Lets see what immigration plan they bring tomorrow.
 
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BetterDwelling just released an article showing Canadian Intl Student applications have dropped sharply.
Something like 21% drop from India, the largest source of the category.

Imo I think Indians have figured out how to game the system. More and more are coming here on Tourist Visas and gunning to get an LMIA because that is a better and CHEAPER path to PR according to them. Personally in touch with a few who have done that, and they are from a South Indian state (not Punjab. )
This is because IRCC announced work permits for visitors and they keep extending such BS policies:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/visit-to-work.html

You can mention the state name too, its Andhra/Telangana right?
 

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This is because IRCC announced work permits for visitors and they keep extending such BS policies:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/visit-to-work.html

You can mention the state name too, its Andhra/Telangana right?
Do they ever check, who are the folks benefitting from these BS options?
I met a south east asian person who told me that he came on a WP short term sent here by his IT outsourcing employer, when the employer asked him to transfer back to to his country after the project ended, this person alleged employer abuse and applied for a humanitarian visa to IRCC and got an Open WP. It looked like he was struggling for PR then covid happened, along with Mendicino's 75 CRS ITA or probably the TR to PR pathway he is so happy he is settled here became a PR and has even now applied for citizenship.

I'm like so many Indian companies do this sending offshore employees to onshore customer location temporarily all over the globe and making them return back to India after tenure ends, is that even employee abuse? if IRCC is falling for such BS god save them.
 
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This is because IRCC announced work permits for visitors and they keep extending such BS policies:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/visit-to-work.html

You can mention the state name too, its Andhra/Telangana right?
That's not work permits for visitors from what I am reading. That just only says that someone on a visitor visa can apply for work permit here. Doesn't make it any easier to get LMIA supported WP or LMIA exempt WP. A lot of misinformation on Tiktok on IG around this policy.