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[ivicts]

Usually all the ivy leaguers get to stay. And anyone in big finance

I thought someone said even with an Ivy League master, it’s hard to stay in the US?

 

[TTBR]

Hi! Has anyone hear any new info or even gossips about STEM draws? Do you think there is a chance that 500 invites going to be final number for STEM category in 2023?..

 

[qdee]

Hi! Has anyone hear any new info or even gossips about STEM draws? Do you think there is a chance that 500 invites going to be final number for STEM category in 2023?..

Is there even a shortage of tech workers in Canada, considering the mass layoffs and trendy AI tools?

 

[TTBR]

Is there even a shortage of tech workers in Canada, considering the mass layoffs and trendy AI tools?

They put a lot of NOCs in this group... And I see a demand for industrial engineers, materials engineers, electrical engineers, etc., which are included to STEM NOC group. Maybe I'm not correct in my estimation of this demand. But right now IRCC impacting engineers who are not in IT or software world at all.

 

[ivicts]

You see, for Software engineering, being on west coast I get a lot of opportunities as I am in same timezone as Seattle, SF etc.

Also there was another simple reason: I and my close friend (who is a manager and also had Aus PR) we both could not get a job together in same team in australia. I got the job but he could not, we had just some weeks for internal job search from india. Here in Canada, we both got the job together and later moved in same team. It helps me because that way I know what my manager says behind my back in meetings. So Canada, is the place we all went.

So for tech-related jobs, Canada PR is actually better than Australian PR is it? Mainly because of the proximity to the US?

 

[Lord_Tony]

So for tech-related jobs, Canada PR is actually better than Australian PR is it? Mainly because of the proximity to the US?

yes if the immigrants end goal is to move the USA and there is either no family or they are also supportive of the move lol. My kids will lynch me if I ask them to move once more unless IRCC screw us real bad.

 

[Lord_Tony]

They put a lot of NOCs in this group... And I see a demand for industrial engineers, materials engineers, electrical engineers, etc., which are included to STEM NOC group. Maybe I'm not correct in my estimation of this demand. But right now IRCC impacting engineers who are not in IT or software world at all.

Even those industries I doubt the need is real or huge. There is very few of such companies coming up new in Canada nor are existing ones expanding big. Most of those Canadian workers in such jobs don't have opportunity to to move to the USA unlike IT folks. Canada has a lot of these workers and thousands of locals graduate already in such streams. A very small group of naturalized Canadians move to middle east after getting a Canadian passport to enjoy better pay and savings. For the immigrants to come Canada pay in some of those engineering professions are not flashy, even lower than IT pay, most of such workers are well off in their own countries unless they live in war or crime zones.

 

[ivicts]

yes if the immigrants end goal is to move the USA and there is either no family or they are also supportive of the move lol. My kids will lynch me if I ask them to move once more unless IRCC screw us real bad.

but you can also move to the US with an E3 visa from Australia, right?

 

[GandiBaat]

So for tech-related jobs, Canada PR is actually better than Australian PR is it? Mainly because of the proximity to the US?

Yes! A lot of companies have bare bones presence in Australia --limited to sales when it comes to software engineering.
Besides, sitting in canada, I can work with folks in LA, SF, Seattle being in the same timezone. Can not say same about Australians. It increases remote opportunities.
If your company is based out of seattle, it is a day trip away. Or just 20 minutes of helicopter ride away. Helps immensely with business meetings.

 

[Lord_Tony]

but you can also move to the US with an E3 visa from Australia, right?

To get a E3 one needs to first have an employer to help you. From Australia it is not like driving from Canada and attending an interview and getting selected. E3 needs an LCA which means companies have publish they have recruited a foreign worker, companies need to work with immigration attorneys etc. These are not something small companies on limited budget or no immigration department prefer particularly without knowing the employee well, compared to TN which is supposedly easier.

P.s- I forgot to mention earlier I work for a IT outsourcer with a global presence they don't do E3 prefer H1b if the employee has old ones where 6 years is not expired or the employee has immigrant approvals etc... or do L1s because of the uniformity they have implemented in their Internal systems with HR and immigration. They seem to have learnt their lesson some where that E3 is not a good one to use for their employees

 

[Lord_Tony]

Yes! A lot of companies have bare bones presence in Australia --limited to sales when it comes to software engineering.
Besides, sitting in canada, I can work with folks in LA, SF, Seattle being in the same timezone. Can not say same about Australians. It increases remote opportunities.
If your company is based out of seattle, it is a day trip away. Or just 20 minutes of helicopter ride away. Helps immensely with business meetings.

I totally agree, same time zones EST,CST,PST...and simply being able to drive across the border are the biggest plus factors for IT workers in Canada. What pains me personally though is this has also become a gate way for poorer quality. Individuals who outsourcers ignored even for H1b are largely using this route now because of Canada's adoption of Lambda'ing strategy.

 

[TTBR]

Even those industries I doubt the need is real or huge. There is very few of such companies coming up new in Canada nor are existing ones expanding big. Most of those Canadian workers in such jobs don't have opportunity to to move to the USA unlike IT folks. Canada has a lot of these workers and thousands of locals graduate already in such streams. A very small group of naturalized Canadians move to middle east after getting a Canadian passport to enjoy better pay and savings. For the immigrants to come Canada pay in some of those engineering professions are not flashy, even lower than IT pay, most of such workers are well off in their own countries unless they live in war or crime zones.

Maybe it is not huge, but in my eyes the need is more than 500 invites for STEM, which makes not a lot of sense in creating a separate category with the biggest amount of NOCs in it. Maybe there will be a draw or two in the end of 2023...

 

[RSub]

Can you educate me on L1A visa a little bit? What factors matter on whether it is approved? Country of application, citizenship, company size, salary? Asking for a friend

Follow this: Find a company that has presence in US and Canada. Get a job in their Canadian branch for a Managerial role. Lobby within your organization for a move to US via L1A. You should have worked in the Canadian branch for at least 1 year before you are eligible for a L1A. I have seen folks at 30 moving to US on a L1A. You don't necessarily need to work in a large org, you can work in a start up too. There is no salary requirement unlike H1B. Once you move to US via L1A, then you will be eligible for EB1 GC and no matter where you are born, you will get your GC within a year or two.

 

[RSub]

Interesting. I'll need to look into the L1b

L1B is like H1B except that L1B is not lottery based. L1B has same wait period like H1B if you are from India because you will be applying for GC via EB2. Try L1A or just move to US via TN. No point in being in US on a L1B or H1B.

 

[RSub]

Tbh from what I've heard, even US Master's programs are full of Indians and Chinese and educational standards are lower than research programs. Most have never heard of plagiarism. 90% of Americans unless they got for a PhD don't pursue Master's

Every assignments we submit goes through a Plagiarism tool. So if we are found to have plagiarized something, we are done. One of my classmates got caught and he got a D (or F) grade. Since it will stay on his transcript he had to transfer to a shitty school in Houston just to remove that D from his transcript and re did his coursework from his 2nd semester because US only accepts 9 to 12 transfer credits for internationals which is one semester. He is doing well now.