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RSub

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AOR Received.
12-11-2020
Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #234– October 26, 2022

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No Program Specified

Number of invitations issued:
4,750Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 4,750 or above

Date and time of round: October 26,2022 13:05:36 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 496

Tie-breaking rule: May 09,2022 09:04:20 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.

Footnotes
Footnote 1
Candidates from the Federal Skilled Worker, Canadian Experience Class, Federal Skilled Trades and Provincial Nominee Program were eligible for this round of invitations.

Return to footnote*referrer

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CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of October 24, 2022
CRS score rangeNumber of candidates
601-1200762
501-600937
451-50064,829
491-5006,226
481-4909,956
471-48019,241
461-47016,539
451-46012,867
401-45058,249
441-45012,268
431-44012,775
421-4309,789
411-42011,223
401-41012,194
351-40069,192
301-35035,904
0-3005,108
Total234,981
 

Lixa

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Oct 10, 2020
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Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #234– October 26, 2022

See full text of Ministerial Instruction

No Program Specified

Number of invitations issued:
4,750Footnote*

Rank required to be invited to apply: 4,750 or above

Date and time of round: October 26,2022 13:05:36 UTC

CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 496

Tie-breaking rule: May 09,2022 09:04:20 UTC

If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.

Footnotes
Footnote 1
Candidates from the Federal Skilled Worker, Canadian Experience Class, Federal Skilled Trades and Provincial Nominee Program were eligible for this round of invitations.

Return to footnote*referrer

See previous rounds

CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of October 24, 2022
CRS score rangeNumber of candidates
601-1200762
501-600937
451-50064,829
491-5006,226
481-4909,956
471-48019,241
461-47016,539
451-46012,867
401-45058,249
441-45012,268
431-44012,775
421-4309,789
411-42011,223
401-41012,194
351-40069,192
301-35035,904
0-3005,108
Total234,981
Almost no one over 500 nowadays.
 
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gracefu68

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Jun 30, 2022
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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to post this query, but I'd appreciate some inputs on this:

Since we can see a decrease in the CRS cutoff in each round, what do all of you predict to be the lowest CRS cutoff possible before the new NOC-specific draws are conducted? Also, is there any news of when the NOC-specific draws would "possibly" begin from? The reason for asking these queries is to know if this is a good time for someone to enter the Express Entry profile, considering the new changes in the system which are to be expected.

Thanks.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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Agree here. However, it's weird that there are unicorn companies operating from within Canada (ApplyBoard) that promote this. I do think that those kids are not victims; anyone with the internet can check. The only person I feel bad for is that girl's father. Seeing him working so hard just to give his daughter the future he has never had... Idk, I feel bad for the guy.

This video is actually pretty interesting. Fraser knows about it, JT openly admits that they need international students. It seems like one of the pillars of Canadian economy is constant flow of foreign students.
Go to any Tim Horton's and you will understand why colleges like Alpha College are allowed to exist...
 

ElvisRamaj

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Apr 26, 2021
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Archives: https://www.uiis.ca/category/express-entry/page/2/

In one year the number of candidates added to the 470-500 pool has been from about 17k (Aug 21) to 35k (Oct 22). While 500-600 it has been from 2.2k (Jul 21) to 8.7k (Jul 22) to now 2.2k (8 real draws or about 5 draws of 4250) as of today.

Since I am bored to infer from all this but I would say 1000 will be added to pool every draw between 450-500, 500 added from 500-600 and about 1000-1500 pnp will be above 600 in the draws replished every 2 weeks. This means you can expect the draws to fall much more slowly below 500 than above it. And if I was to guess you can consider that only 2000 per draw will be depleted for you to be relevant. So based on where you are in the points pool I would say you can calculate that way when the cut off will get close to you. Per month you can consider 2000-2500 in the pool getting exhausted from the 500 mark and below.

From this calculation I would say it will take 4-5 months or 8-9 draws to hit 481 and maybe 6 more months to reach 470 mark. This number includes the replenishment number and pnp invites and assumes the current cadence of draws continues without any disruption.
You assumed too much in this analysis.

Believe me, knowing IRCC's way of handling things in the past 2+ years, I can guarantee you that nothing goes in the same direction too long for them.
 
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AndyUK

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Oct 15, 2022
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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to post this query, but I'd appreciate some inputs on this:

Since we can see a decrease in the CRS cutoff in each round, what do all of you predict to be the lowest CRS cutoff possible before the new NOC-specific draws are conducted? Also, is there any news of when the NOC-specific draws would "possibly" begin from? The reason for asking these queries is to know if this is a good time for someone to enter the Express Entry profile, considering the new changes in the system which are to be expected.

Thanks.
No one knows for sure. Given the trend over the last couple of months, it's reasonable to expect that CRS threshold will continue going down around 4 point in every draw. There should be 4 more draws before Christmas, so I think the threshold will drop to around 480.
Things to bear in mind:
- There are almost 20,000 applicants in 470-480 bracket, so once we hit 480, threshold may come down only around 2 points per draw.
- The draws won't be increasing forever. Biggest draws were 5,000 (not counting one-off CEC draw) so we're almost back at this level. The last time IRCC did those big 5,000 draws, they then stopped FSW for 18 months, so I guess you could speculate that they're drawing as many applicants as possible (within reason) before NOC-specific draws.
- NOC-specific draws are supposed to start in early 2023. I heard something about March-April but I'm not sure if it's true.

In short - I think CRS cut off will drop to around 480 by the end of the year. Anything beyond that is a complete unknown.
 
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Go to any Tim Horton's and you will understand why colleges like Alpha College are allowed to exist...
These guys don't understand that Canada doesn't need well-qualified, two master-degree holding, francophones from Europe. They need cheap labour do stuff that white people don't wish to do.

Removal of 20-hour work week limit for students should give them a hint of reality. They are looking for mexicans but from Asia.
 

gracefu68

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Jun 30, 2022
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No one knows for sure. Given the trend over the last couple of months, it's reasonable to expect that CRS threshold will continue going down around 4 point in every draw. There should be 4 more draws before Christmas, so I think the threshold will drop to around 480.
Things to bear in mind:
- There are almost 20,000 applicants in 470-480 bracket, so once we hit 480, threshold may come down only around 2 points per draw.
- The draws won't be increasing forever. Biggest draws were 5,000 (not counting one-off CEC draw) so we're almost back at this level. The last time IRCC did those big 5,000 draws, they then stopped FSW for 18 months, so I guess you could speculate that they're drawing as many applicants as possible (within reason) before NOC-specific draws.
- NOC-specific draws are supposed to start in early 2023. I heard something about March-April but I'm not sure if it's true.

In short - I think CRS cut off will drop to around 480 by the end of the year. Anything beyond that is a complete unknown.
Thanks for your inputs. It makes more sense to me now. Also, congrats on receiving your ITA!

Would you recommend an applicant (FSW) with about 2 years of experience to enter the Express Entry pool now, given the changes anticipated (which obviously no one is clear about)? Or do you think it's better to go on a study visa and then enter the pool via CEC? Or, possibly gain more years of work experience and enter the pool?
 

Temmy Omo

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Jan 28, 2021
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Hi everyone, so I got my PPR about two weeks ago and I plan to move to Canada early next year, Ontario specifically.
I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with applying for roles in financial services before landing, I’ve been applying for positions but I haven’t gotten any positive feedback yet.
 

AndyUK

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Oct 15, 2022
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Thanks for your inputs. It makes more sense to me now. Also, congrats on receiving your ITA!

Would you recommend an applicant (FSW) with about 2 years of experience to enter the Express Entry pool now, given the changes anticipated (which obviously no one is clear about)? Or do you think it's better to go on a study visa and then enter the pool via CEC? Or, possibly gain more years of work experience and enter the pool?
Thanks :)

What's your CRS score? Do you have IELTS and WES ready to open EE profile? If you have these documents ready and your CRS is around 475 or above, personally I would go for FSW.
If your score is lower, you can still open EE profile - doesn't cost you anything (assuming you have IELTS and WES sorted) but it then definitely makes sense to look at other options.
 
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OneStepAtATime

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Jun 23, 2021
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Guys and gals, I can hardly believe it but it's PPR time!

After all those years waiting for an ITA, the time between AOR and PPR sure went by quick!

Thanks again to the many helpful members on this forum for all the encouragements, advice, tips, and analyses of IRCC behaviour (as futile as that may sometimes have been). For those still waiting, I hope to be able to hear of your successes soon. See y'all in Canada!
 

AndyUK

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Oct 15, 2022
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Guys and gals, I can hardly believe it but it's PPR time!

After all those years waiting for an ITA, the time between AOR and PPR sure went by quick!

Thanks again to the many helpful members on this forum for all the encouragements, advice, tips, and analyses of IRCC behaviour (as futile as that may sometimes have been). For those still waiting, I hope to be able to hear of your successes soon. See y'all in Canada!
Congratulations!

How long it took from AOR? Are you FSW-O?
 

gracefu68

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Jun 30, 2022
51
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Thanks :)

What's your CRS score? Do you have IELTS and WES ready to open EE profile? If you have these documents ready and your CRS is around 475 or above, personally I would go for FSW.
If your score is lower, you can still open EE profile - doesn't cost you anything (assuming you have IELTS and WES sorted) but it then definitely makes sense to look at other options.
I haven't entered the pool yet as I've recently completed the minimum 1 year of work experience in the eligible occupation. Hence, I wanted to have a clearer idea before beginning with the entire procedure. So the IELTS and ECA are also pending. I don't think the calculated score would be above 475 anyway as of now, so I guess I would possibly have to wait or see some other options, as you've suggested.
 

AndyUK

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Oct 15, 2022
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I haven't entered the pool yet as I've recently completed the minimum 1 year of work experience in the eligible occupation. Hence, I wanted to have a clearer idea before beginning with the entire procedure. So the IELTS and ECA are also pending. I don't think the calculated score would be above 475 anyway as of now, so I guess I would possibly have to wait or see some other options, as you've suggested.
yeah, I guess it looks like you will have to wait to see how NOC-related draws will look like next year. Good luck!