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[Trayceee]

me watching this thread knowing i wont get an ita with my 453 points ((

I have 453 crs too. Waiting for oinp to even give me a noi.

 

[wonderbly]

My score is 495 and I have two more week to answer the LOI from PNP Ontario.
- I don't want to pay 1500$
- I don't want to live in Ontario

I understand not wanting to live in ON cos that will be a hard decision for me as well. But the way things are going (even with you being inland), you better take that OINP or be prepared to add "I don't want to live in Canada" to your list.

 

[seadrag0n]

what is your timeline?

Nov 2020 AOR, Jun 2022 PPR/COPR, OINP-Outland

 

[gsafbch]

Were you hibernating for two years to even think 453 might be even remotely close to being high enough? I'll have whatever you've been smoking...

3 years of exp will get you to somewhere in the 480s range in 2023. You're gambling if you think that's going to be enough. Either learn french (and start asap: more and more people will start doing this and 500s will be commonplace, as we're seeing), or go study in Canada and get a PR for 100k CAD. Those are your two options. Not sure if optometrists are an in demand NOC anywhere, but even if they are, 453 won't cut it, plain and simple.

A great reality check... for sure! Re-learning French as that's the only way I can really up my score at the minute (and missed a couple points on IELTs which I will probably re-do - didn't study for it as much as I wanted as I did it just before my 1 year started so I could have my profile up). Worst case will probably take a sabbatical and do some studying in Canada.

 

[gsafbch]

Most outland applications will only qualify with the 3 years of work experience, but given you already have 453 without it, you seem pretty good for a future ITA in 2023, which is not far off.

The scores will drop once the draw sizes increase, you'll be around the 480's i believe, that should be good enough.



What it do babbyyyyy?

Just working like a dog. Are you here yet?

Thank you for the optimism! I hope it will be just enough... perhaps... maybe... lol All I can do at the moment is just sit back and observe I guess

 

[navinball]

Any hope for my cousin who is sitting at 455 or does he need to get a new birth certificate?

 

[Ultraxion]

Why does it matter?

cuz FSW is pretty much the only way for outlanders while for inlanders, as long as you are not out of status, you have a way better chance to find a job/spouse etc. you don't necessarily need EE cuz its so competitive. even if you wanna claim asylum you need to be inland first right? not to talk about the TR2PR during pandemic which only benefits inlanders. i think its bluntly obvious that Canada is giving more and more weight to inlanders in terms of immigration.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

cuz FSW is pretty much the only way for outlanders while for inlanders, as long as you are not out of status, you have a way better chance to find a job/spouse etc. you don't necessarily need EE cuz its so competitive. even if you wanna claim asylum you need to be inland first right? not to talk about the TR2PR during pandemic which only benefits inlanders. i think its bluntly obvious that Canada is giving more and more weight to inlanders in terms of immigration.

What CRS required for spouse?

 

[ImpatientDragon]

What CRS required for spouse?

 

[wonderbly]

Any hope for my cousin who is sitting at 455 or does he need to get a new birth certificate?

That might be his next best move. I assume he's already used up the fake transcripts and qualifications options?

 

[SatNight]

cuz FSW is pretty much the only way for outlanders while for inlanders, as long as you are not out of status, you have a way better chance to find a job/spouse etc. you don't necessarily need EE cuz its so competitive. even if you wanna claim asylum you need to be inland first right? not to talk about the TR2PR during pandemic which only benefits inlanders. i think its bluntly obvious that Canada is giving more and more weight to inlanders in terms of immigration.

It is true that there are more programs, but EE is still the main way, because everything else has narrow rules (PNP only accepting certain occupations, for example). Having a job brings Canadian experience, but not PR in itself. There is no program that gives PR just because someone has a Canadian experience or has graduated from a Canadian university. The only way is through EE. The new TR to PR might change that, but it will probably be NOC based (?) so not much of a change for most.

So EE is the main one, and for many (most?) the only one.


No idea about asylum and marrying a random Canadian, though. One would think those are also special circumstances. And one can seek a Canadian spouse outside of Canada, if that's the goal.

Like I know people joke about paying for a degree and getting a PR out of it (Lamda colllege jokes), but there is no program that gives you PR just because you graduated in Canada or if you have work experience in Canada. You generally have to go through EE, and to do it quickly (accumulate work experience before your permit expires). There are people who do it through PNP and other programs, and I do not deny that Canadian employers prefer people with Canadian work experience, nor do I ignore the fact that it's easier to find a Canadian job when you are inland. But there is no other program for most inland candidates than EE. (At least at the moment).

 

[Deleted member 994371]

Were you hibernating for two years to even think 453 might be even remotely close to being high enough? I'll have whatever you've been smoking...

3 years of exp will get you to somewhere in the 480s range in 2023. You're gambling if you think that's going to be enough. Either learn french (and start asap: more and more people will start doing this and 500s will be commonplace, as we're seeing), or go study in Canada and get a PR for 100k CAD. Those are your two options. Not sure if optometrists are an in demand NOC anywhere, but even if they are, 453 won't cut it, plain and simple.

Who hurt you my friend?

Oh wait, nevermind.

 

[Ultraxion]

It is true that there are more programs, but EE is still the main way, because everything else has narrow rules (PNP only accepting certain occupations, for example). Having a job brings Canadian experience, but not PR in itself. There is no program that gives PR just because someone has a Canadian experience or has graduated from a Canadian university. The only way is through EE. The new TR to PR might change that, but it will probably be NOC based (?) so not much of a change for most.

So EE is the main one, and for many (most?) the only one.


No idea about asylum and marrying a random Canadian, though. One would think those are also special circumstances. And one can seek a Canadian spouse outside of Canada, if that's the goal.

Like I know people joke about paying for a degree and getting a PR out of it (Lamda colllege jokes), but there is no program that gives you PR just because you graduated in Canada or if you have work experience in Canada. You generally have to go through EE, and to do it quickly (accumulate work experience before your permit expires). There are people who do it through PNP and other programs, and I do not deny that Canadian employers prefer people with Canadian work experience, nor do I ignore the fact that it's easier to find a Canadian job when you are inland. But there is no other program for most inland candidates than EE. (At least at the moment).

Even if it is true that EE is the main way, being inland is still a huge plus. If you manage to get Canadian work experience, you become CEC instead of FSW. if you come in as a couple, the two can sponser each other by getting study permit/open work permit.. Doesn't matter what immigration program you eventually follow, being inland can help in almost every way one can think of.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Depending on your charm/beauty, sense of humor, wealth etc.. Its not a CRS thing.

I dont understand...are you saying only certain NOCs qualify?

 

[SatNight]

Even if it is true that EE is the main way, being inland is still a huge plus. If you manage to get Canadian work experience, you become CEC instead of FSW. if you come in as a couple, the two can sponser each other by getting study permit/open work permit.. Doesn't matter what immigration program you eventually follow, being inland can help in almost every way one can think of.

Being inland is a definitely a plus. But a plus in terms of getting additional points for EE and stuff like that. It does not guarantee a PR. It helps getting into EE but you still hsve to be selected.