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[littlestar19]

I did and submitted the letter of experience but one of my employers didn't mention it so IRCC requested ADR for that and I got the new letter from the employer & submitted it.

I am sorry but I didnt get you! Was the ADR request for the reference letter of the experience that you mentioned in work history( claiming points) or for the one you mentioned in personal history ?? Would be very helpful if you can explain about the entire situation. Thanks

 

[wonderbly]

Wow, I've literally been looking out for an answer on this "Independent Contractor" thing, and the varying answers made me so confused! Thanks, I'm so glad you've replied & answered my queries.
Although you were working with this single company as an "independent contractor", you've not claimed points for that? Did you select "self-employed" because you claimed points for your own company?

Lastly, I just want to summarise what I've understood so far (correct me if I'm wrong)....So basically, one should just go ahead and apply with all the valid documentation related to their work (company letter, salary slips, invoices, tax statements, etc.) even if they are an "independent contractor" with a company. In the above situation I've mentioned previously, would the "self-employed" box need to be ticked, although the person isn't self-employed but is being paid by a certain single company?

I remember that I did not check the self-employed box on my EE profile because when I created my profile I was a full time employee (of the same company, I became an IC after working there as an employee for 3 years), and by the time I realised I had already gotten ITA. I was worried about making any major changes to my profile post-ITA so I just let it be. I actually logged back into my GCKey account now to double-check and sure enough I didn't select self-employed. However, all the documents I provided confirmed me as being an IC.

I had worked for the company for about 9 years by the time I applied for PR, 5 of which I was already an IC, so all the points I claimed for work experience was as an IC. My own company was registered purely for accounting purposes so that I can invoice and bill my "employer" as a contractor. My company did not render services to any other company, it was just registered as a "Technology provider" and was not related to my NOC (2174) at all. The only part that related to my NOC (and earned me points on work history) was my job duties with my "employer" as listed on my reference letters. If it helps, I asked my employer to state that I am "permanently contracted" to them to provide services as a Software Developer Lead, which matched what is expected of NOC 2174. I explained in my LOE that I became an IC simply to be able to correctly bill and invoice my "employer" (it is an IT consultancy with different clients) as I was working on multiple projects for multiple clients at the same time and needed a way to invoice them for the hours on several clients/projects.

So in your case, your company can be registered as whatever. What matters is that the company you provide services for should give you a reference letter indicating that you provide the services that matches your NOC. You should have the necessary documentation (besides your company registration and tax payment proof) like invoices you issued to them, bank statement showing corresponding payments etc. Then you should be fine.

I will advice that in your EE you should select "self-employed" cos if I had to do it again, I would definitely select it. There is really no big deal about applying as self-employed, as long as you have proof from the company/companies you provided such services to them. It's not any different than applying as full employee, especially when you are contracted to just one employer.

 

[Starboy12]

What is the name of the schedule A document that you received? There are two versions :
eimm5669e.pdf and imm5669e.pdf
The former needs validation and the later does not. For the former, you dont have to print or sign in ink, just filling and validating the sheet will suffice. I recently submitted the eimm5669e.pdf version.

The version I used is the IMM5669e.pdf
So it should be alright then. Thanks for helping, cheers.

 

[gracefu68]

I remember that I did not check the self-employed box on my EE profile because when I created my profile I was a full time employee (of the same company, I became an IC after working there as an employee for 3 years), and by the time I realised I had already gotten ITA. I was worried about making any major changes to my profile post-ITA so I just let it be. I actually logged back into my GCKey account now to double-check and sure enough I didn't select self-employed. However, all the documents I provided confirmed me as being an IC.

I had worked for the company for about 9 years by the time I applied for PR, 5 of which I was already an IC, so all the points I claimed for work experience was as an IC. My own company was registered purely for accounting purposes so that I can invoice and bill my "employer" as a contractor. My company did not render services to any other company, it was just registered as a "Technology provider" and was not related to my NOC (2174) at all. The only part that related to my NOC (and earned me points on work history) was my job duties with my "employer" as listed on my reference letters. If it helps, I asked my employer to state that I am "permanently contracted" to them to provide services as a Software Developer Lead, which matched what is expected of NOC 2174. I explained in my LOE that I became an IC simply to be able to correctly bill and invoice my "employer" (it is an IT consultancy with different clients) as I was working on multiple projects for multiple clients at the same time and needed a way to invoice them for the hours on several clients/projects.

So in your case, your company can be registered as whatever. What matters is that the company you provide services for should give you a reference letter indicating that you provide the services that matches your NOC. You should have the necessary documentation (besides your company registration and tax payment proof) like invoices you issued to them, bank statement showing corresponding payments etc. Then you should be fine.

I will advice that in your EE you should select "self-employed" cos if I had to do it again, I would definitely select it. There is really no big deal about applying as self-employed, as long as you have proof from the company/companies you provided such services to them. It's not any different than applying as full employee, especially when you are contracted to just one employer.

Thank you once again for your detailed response, it makes things so much clearer now. If I'm not wrong, selecting "self-employed" isn't a problem for FSW since the work experience is considered, but not for CEC, right? In this case, it's only FSW so selecting "self-employed" won't be a problem, correct?

If possible, could you share a rough template of the reference letter you obtained for the company you worked with as an "Independent Contractor"? The concern I'm having is that the number of hours is not fixed as such, like there's nothing specified by the company. However, the company has a specified amount of work that needs to be completed every month. In such case, what exactly would be the number of hours mentioned in the letter?

I really hope you aren't troubled by the several queries I've been asking you, it's because I've not been able to get a clear answer anywhere on the internet. Thanks for your help always!

 

[hamhk202]

Did you have many pages? Most pdfs should be quite readable with ~100KB per page. You might want to try some different conversion tools.

The work history, for example, contains 46 pages! I tried shrinking them as small as possible to upload within the limit, but the quality may have been compromised. It would be great if we had an authentic sample to rely on .

 

[seadrag0n]

The work history, for example, contains 46 pages! I tried shrinking them as small as possible to upload within the limit, but the quality may have been compromised. It would be great if we had an authentic sample to rely on .

Work history is a form during eAPR, why are you creating such a large document?

 

[oinkario]

Work history is a form during eAPR, why are you creating such a large document?

I had 20+ pages too. Three different jobs, two of which required “social insurance enrollment” records plus local bank statements which need to be translated and notarized. That on top of the employer letters easily get lengthy.

 

[seadrag0n]

I had 20+ pages too. Three different jobs, two of which required “social insurance enrollment” records plus local bank statements which need to be translated and notarized. That on top of the employer letters easily get lengthy.

IRCC just needs one reference letter and nothing is required if you don't claim points for a job. I just submitted one reference with two salary slips for two of my jobs which was enough.

 

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[wonderbly]

Thank you once again for your detailed response, it makes things so much clearer now. If I'm not wrong, selecting "self-employed" isn't a problem for FSW since the work experience is considered, but not for CEC, right? In this case, it's only FSW so selecting "self-employed" won't be a problem, correct?

If possible, could you share a rough template of the reference letter you obtained for the company you worked with as an "Independent Contractor"? The concern I'm having is that the number of hours is not fixed as such, like there's nothing specified by the company. However, the company has a specified amount of work that needs to be completed every month. In such case, what exactly would be the number of hours mentioned in the letter?

I really hope you aren't troubled by the several queries I've been asking you, it's because I've not been able to get a clear answer anywhere on the internet. Thanks for your help always!

Happy to help. For CEC you cannot use work experience gained as self-employed, but this is not an issue for FSW.

Below is the skeleton of my reference letter:

To Whom It May Concern

RE: Confirmation of Contract: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (ID Num: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX)​

This letter serves to confirm that Ms. XXXXXXXX XXXXXX is permanently contracted with XXXXXXXXXXXXXX since DD MM YYYY as a Senior Software Developer/Lead. She currently provides software development services to XXXXXXXXXXXXXX and its clients in the following capacity:

Designation: IT Software Solutions Delivery Lead
Role: Software Developer/Programmer (Senior Level)
Duties:

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Contract Type: Permanent Full Time Contractor (minimum of 40 hr/Week excluding overtime hours)

Remuneration: Current invoice rate is XXX/hr (excl. VAT). This does not include any performance related bonus which forms part of the contractual agreement.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX is a Digital technology and innovative IT solution provider in (COUNTRY). Should you require any further confirmation, please do not hesitate to contact me.

 

[Ultraxion]

IRCC just needs one reference letter and nothing is required if you don't claim points for a job. I just submitted one reference with two salary slips for two of my jobs which was enough.

But you do claim points under "Skill Transferability factors" section with your WE right? Just asking.

 

[Sweetgurl]

Hi all,
For someone who has worked in Canada on work permit for some months and considering CEC.
Will the mandatory 2 weeks COVID-19 quarantine be counted as part of work duration?
Example arrived Canada January 1 ,2022 but physically started work on 14th January. Employer paid salary for the 2 weeks quarantine.

When will the 1 year eligibility be complete? 1 January, 2023 or 14th January ,2023

 

[Rach WLT]

Hi, is there any telegram or whatsapp group to connect for pre-ITA ? I would love an invite. Thank you guys!

 

[gracefu68]

Happy to help. For CEC you cannot use work experience gained as self-employed, but this is not an issue for FSW.

Below is the skeleton of my reference letter:

To Whom It May Concern

RE: Confirmation of Contract: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX (ID Num: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX)​

This letter serves to confirm that Ms. XXXXXXXX XXXXXX is permanently contracted with XXXXXXXXXXXXXX since DD MM YYYY as a Senior Software Developer/Lead. She currently provides software development services to XXXXXXXXXXXXXX and its clients in the following capacity:

Designation: IT Software Solutions Delivery Lead
Role: Software Developer/Programmer (Senior Level)
Duties:

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Contract Type: Permanent Full Time Contractor (minimum of 40 hr/Week excluding overtime hours)

Remuneration: Current invoice rate is XXX/hr (excl. VAT). This does not include any performance related bonus which forms part of the contractual agreement.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX is a Digital technology and innovative IT solution provider in (COUNTRY). Should you require any further confirmation, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you so much for providing this skeleton of the reference letter, perhaps it can also help other people who are struggling to find an answer for "independent contractor" work experience-related queries.
You mentioned 40 hours/week in the letter, was that specified in the contract? Or is this an average amount mentioned?

Thanks again for your help as always!

 

[littlestar19]

IRCC just needs one reference letter and nothing is required if you don't claim points for a job. I just submitted one reference with two salary slips for two of my jobs which was enough.

Hey ! I am claiming points for a job that I quit last year( 3 yrs). I am not claiming points for the job that I am currently doing. Would I have to give proof for the monthly salary from present company in my bank statement for POF ?