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@stirredo Personally I would not take any chances with soft landing or PRTD. Being rejected of some country’s equivalent of PRTD is one critical reason that I came to this forum (or my 2nd immigration process) in the first place. (I did find wonderful people and memes here, but still)

I have multiple close family members in that country. And I was sponsoring my spouse to get PR there. Yet officers reviewing my PRTD-equivalent said I didn’t intend to live there lol.
Thank you for showing concern. I am still mulling things over and so far what I have researched is within the law.

The law says you have to live in Canada for 2 years out of 5 years to be able to renew your PR card. If I do apply for PRTD, I will have almost 4 years to complete the terms set by them.

You can see the conditions under "What are the requirements?":
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html#5529E2

About the PR card being mailed/brought to home country with relatives, it seems to be a grey area. It's not prohibited nor condoned by them.
 
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@wonderbly - where did your PR card ship from? Did it ship from your VO or a common place where all PR card ship from?
 

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Thank you for showing concern. I am still mulling things over and so far what I have researched is within the law.

The law says you have to live in Canada for 2 years out of 5 years to be able to renew your PR card. If I do apply for PRTD, I will have almost 4 years to complete the terms set by them.

You can see the conditions under "What are the requirements?":
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html#5529E2

About the PR card being mailed/brought to home country with relatives, it seems to be a grey area. It's not prohibited nor condoned by them.
I don’t know enough about other options. All I know is that don’t count on PRTD except for last resort. What the website lists is like “eligibility criterion”, not a condition that guarantees the document.
 
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I don’t know enough about other options. All I know is that don’t count on PRTD except for last resort. What the website lists is like “eligibility criterion”, not a condition that guarantees the document.
I won't. I am relying on friend/relatives coming through for me. If I am not sure about them, I won't go through with this and do a normal landing.
 
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I don’t know enough about other options. All I know is that don’t count on PRTD except for last resort. What the website lists is like “eligibility criterion”, not a condition that guarantees the document.
https://settlement.org/ontario/immigration-citizenship/landing-and-leaving/leaving-canada/i-need-to-leave-canada-but-do-not-have-my-pr-card-yet-what-should-i-do/

The link above also states it explicitly. "You are not guaranteed to get the Travel Document, if you apply. It is up to the officer at the visa office to decide if you will get it or not".
 
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https://settlement.org/ontario/immigration-citizenship/landing-and-leaving/leaving-canada/i-need-to-leave-canada-but-do-not-have-my-pr-card-yet-what-should-i-do/

The link above also states it explicitly. "You are not guaranteed to get the Travel Document, if you apply. It is up to the officer at the visa office to decide if you will get it or not".

Yeah. That's why I won't depend on PRTD. Only PR card if it can be mailed/a relative can bring it to me.

Otherwise, I am not going through this.

The link also says this about sending PR card through relative:

If you gave Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) an address in Canada, but you left before the card was mailed to you, you can ask your family or friends who live at that address to send you the PR card. You can then re-enter Canada with your PR Card. However, if you do this, you are taking a risk.
I guess the risk being the PR card not being sent to you by your relative.
 

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Yeah. That's why I won't depend on PRTD. Only PR card if it can be mailed/a relative can bring it to me.

Otherwise, I am not going through this.

The link also says this about sending PR card through relative:



I guess the risk being the PR card not being sent to you by your relative.
Till the time you are complaint with residency obligations of spending 2 years out of 5, You should not worry of PRTD being rejected.
 
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Service Canada isn't open at Toronto Pearson airport because of covid.

Apparently, it's possible to make an appointment with service Canada when one is outside Canada. I guess I'll take an appointment first and then go for flight tickets.
 

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Till the time you are complaint with residency obligations of spending 2 years out of 5, You should not worry of PRTD being rejected.
You know, I had a solid plan of meeting RO in a certain country when I was an outland (for a VERY legitimate reason) PR of that country. Then covid hit. My plan became not so solid anymore. Now I’m technically still a PR (since I didn’t renounce the status) but cannot go back unless I’m willing to be detained indefinitely, pay $$$ for a lawyer, and appear in court for a slim chance. It would also blow up my EE application due to the detainment, even though I had zero illegal activity.

Never take chances on something as important as immigration. I don’t want what happened to me happen to anyone else I cross path with.
 
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You know, I had a solid plan of meeting RO in a certain country when I was an outland PR of that country. Then covid hit. My plan became not so solid anymore. Now I’m technically still a PR (since I didn’t renounce the status) but cannot go back unless I’m willing to be detained indefinitely and appear in court for a slim chance.

Never take chances on something as important as immigration.

Thank you for sharing your experience, mate. I won't put it to chance.

But if I had to guess the name of the country, it was Australia, right?
 

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Thank you for sharing your experience, mate. I won't put it to chance.

But if I had to guess the name of the country, it was Australia, right?
It’s in North America and not Canada :D . Being Indian (or Chinese like myself) you know what it’s like to “start over the immigration process”. It’s basically “good luck getting unf**ked”.
 
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Divided States of America. Being Indian (or Chinese like myself) you know what it’s like to “start over the immigration process”.

Oh, man. That's a tough one to swallow. Us Indian and Chinese share a common pain when it comes to the states, being punished for our population.
 
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Kangaroo reporting with first-hand experience in AB on a PR:

Applied to ~40 engineering jobs, zero interviews. The lowest my experience matched the role I applied to was maybe 75-80 percent. A good portion with +90% match.

About me: Several years of experience and accredited degrees in what I'm applying for, white, no language issues.

Although of course I'm quite upset, I'm not surprised. AB in particular has an even worse job market than the shitty market in the rest of Canada. There's a fake image of "Canadian standards" in STEM and as a new immigrant they think you don't match up. What's funny is Canada is a country that can't produce as much technology compared to the US and the EU, yet Canadian employers think they know their shit more than those who worked at much bigger companies in much bigger projects. My resume is like all stars but it doesn't matter, it's not relevant in Canada.

The only way to find a job is 1. be in compsci/software/IT 2. apply to a shit ton of jobs since those jobs get 20-50 applications a day (especially so if remote)

If you're not in compsci/software/IT, you gotta move to Toronto or Montreal as there are more jobs but then again, you're gonna be hitting into the "Canadian standards" wall. Plus you'll be paying $2000/mo on a 400sqft cave.

I should add that it's pathetic how many people stole my forum name...