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Earal

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Aug 30, 2010
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Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-07-'10
AOR Received.
08-25-'10
File Transfer...
08-09-'10
Med's Done....
06-24-'10
Passport Req..
09-16-'10
VISA ISSUED...
01-25-'11 DM
seyshane said:
GUYS ,,,gusto ko lang ipaalam sa inyo na dumating na passport naming mag ina kanina lang 1:30pm...kausap ko hubby ko nong dumating ang delivery man, woowwww,,sobrang saya ko,, d makapaniwala ang asawa ko,,hehehe,,,i'm sure lalo akong d makakatulog mamya nito sa sobrang saya...Ganito pla ang feeling,,,atlast makakasama ko na rin cya,,,yeheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

ILOVEMYWIFE AND BLUE_PLANE,,muzta ang inyo? malapit lang kasi ang manila sa pampanga. kaya nadeliver agad :),,especialy kung nasa manila po kayo,,,mas madali

congrats!!!! finally next step eh sa plane na...yehey!!!
 

mahalko29

Star Member
Sep 8, 2010
53
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Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2010
AOR Received.
14/07/2010
Passport Req..
14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...
02/09/2010
seyshane said:
Mahalko29 is right..nextweek na yan sigurado. Actually d sila tumawag, bigla nalang dumating. KAilan ang flight mo Mahalko29?
Don't worry ILOVEMYWIFE, sigurado kayo ni Blue_plane nextweek na inyo, madalang lang naman lumalampas sa 2weeks after ma DM,, :D
@seyshane on the 12th of november... medyo matagal pa lot of things pa to do and fix.. ikaw kelan flight mo and san ka sa canada?
 

seyshane

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Aug 26, 2010
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@Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, :),,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana ;)
 

dream_05

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Sep 19, 2010
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seyshane said:
@ Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, :),,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana ;)
Congrats seyshane!..malapit ka na pala umalis jan...Nakakatuwa naman..God bless..
 

embopj

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Aug 6, 2010
232
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Job Offer........
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Interview........
November 2010 Approve
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010
LANDED..........
February 2011 - snow storm
Operational Bulletin 238 -
September 30, 2010
Amendment to Section 4 of the Regulations
Issue

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob238.asp

An amendment to section 4 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations was brought into force by an Order-in-Council decree today, September 30, 2010.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) and Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officers must commence applying the new provision on the day on which it entered into force. Therefore, effective today, CIC and CBSA officers must apply the new provision to all new applications, all applications in process for which a final decision has not yet been rendered and all new and pending appeals before the Immigration Appeal Division (IAD).

Background

The former R4 provision required two mandatory elements for determining “bad faith” relationships:

(a) that a relationship not be genuine; and
(b) that it was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.

Although a “bad faith” relationship exists when either of these related factors is apparent, both elements had to be met when refusing a case under this Regulation and when supporting that decision on appeal.

In addition, the “bad faith” assessment for adoptions was combined in the former R4 with the assessment for marriages, common-law and conjugal partnerships, although the criteria for assessing an adoptive relationship differ from that used to assess the genuineness of the other relationships. An overlap between the “bad faith” assessment for adopted persons entering Canada as accompanying family members and adopted persons being sponsored as members of the Family Class (R117) led to additional ambiguity with respect to the assessment of genuineness for adoptions.

Amended provision

The amended R4 provision provides for each of the two “bad faith” tests to stand on its own and separates the requirement related to spouses, common-law partners and conjugal partners (R4(1)) from that related to adopted children (R4(2)). The amended R4 provision reads as follows:

4. (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a foreign national shall not be considered a spouse, a common-law partner or a conjugal partner of a person if the marriage, common-law partnership or conjugal partnership

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) is not genuine.

4. (2) A foreign national shall not be considered an adopted child of a person if the adoption

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) did not create a genuine parent-child relationship.

4. (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to adoptions referred to in paragraph 117(1)(g) and subsections 117(2) and (4).

Note that R4(2) applies to the assessment of adoptions which did not conform to the intercountry adoption process, such as domestic adoptions completed in the country of origin, and, therefore, lacked the involvement of provincial adoption authorities.

For greater clarity, within the context of a R4(2) adoption, the term “genuine” is associated with the assessment of the parent-child relationship.

Subsection R117(2) of the Regulations, which deals with the sponsorship of adopted children by citizens or permanent residents of Canada, has also been amended. The addition of subsection (b) now provides for an assessment of the bona fides of the adoption. R117(2) is, therefore, now consistent with R117(1)(g) and R117(4) which also require an assessment of whether the adoption was primarily “for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act”. Hence, there is no need for officers to consider the provisions of R4(2) within the context of a sponsored application for a permanent resident visa for an adopted child which is being processed under section R117 of the Regulations.

The amended Subsection R117(2) is as follows:

R117(2) A foreign national who is the adopted child of a sponsor and whose adoption took place when the child was under the age of 18 shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue of the adoption unless

(a) the adoption was in the best interests of the child within the meaning of the Hague Convention on Adoption; and
(b) the adoption was not entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Implications
Assessing the bona fides of spousal, common-law or conjugal relationships

These changes will enable CIC and CBSA to deal more effectively with marriages of convenience, an ongoing issue of concern. They will allow officers to determine that a spousal, common-law or conjugal relationship is not bona fide if it is either not genuine or was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring a status or privilege under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Henceforth, only one of the two criteria will need to be present to determine that a relationship is not bona fide.
Assessing adoptions under R4(2)

With respect to accompanying children who have been adopted or children whose adoptions may not be processed under R117, the adoption may henceforth be determined to be a relationship of convenience or entered into in “bad faith” if it was either entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act or does not create a genuine parent-child relationship.
Assessing adoptions under R117(2)

The addition of subsection R117(2)(b) to the Regulations clarifies that the adoption of a sponsored child under the age of 18 cannot be undertaken primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Hearings before the IAD

Since a hearing before the IAD is de novo,as opposed to a judicial review of a decision, the IAD will base its decisions on the law that is presently in force at the time of the hearing and not the law that was in force at the time of the original decision by the officer.

Further information

The following operational manuals will be updated:

IP 5 – Section 12.3
IP 8 – Sections 5.19, and 5.25
OP 2 – Section 5.16, 12, 12.1, 12.2
OP 3 – Section 5.8, 5.9, 7.8
OP 6 – Section 6.4
OP 25 – Section 6.2
 

Hentaznel

Star Member
Aug 27, 2010
195
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embopj said:
Operational Bulletin 238 -
September 30, 2010
Amendment to Section 4 of the Regulations
Issue

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob238.asp

An amendment to section 4 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations was brought into force by an Order-in-Council decree today, September 30, 2010.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) and Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officers must commence applying the new provision on the day on which it entered into force. Therefore, effective today, CIC and CBSA officers must apply the new provision to all new applications, all applications in process for which a final decision has not yet been rendered and all new and pending appeals before the Immigration Appeal Division (IAD).

Background

The former R4 provision required two mandatory elements for determining “bad faith” relationships:

(a) that a relationship not be genuine; and
(b) that it was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.

Although a “bad faith” relationship exists when either of these related factors is apparent, both elements had to be met when refusing a case under this Regulation and when supporting that decision on appeal.

In addition, the “bad faith” assessment for adoptions was combined in the former R4 with the assessment for marriages, common-law and conjugal partnerships, although the criteria for assessing an adoptive relationship differ from that used to assess the genuineness of the other relationships. An overlap between the “bad faith” assessment for adopted persons entering Canada as accompanying family members and adopted persons being sponsored as members of the Family Class (R117) led to additional ambiguity with respect to the assessment of genuineness for adoptions.

Amended provision

The amended R4 provision provides for each of the two “bad faith” tests to stand on its own and separates the requirement related to spouses, common-law partners and conjugal partners (R4(1)) from that related to adopted children (R4(2)). The amended R4 provision reads as follows:

4. (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a foreign national shall not be considered a spouse, a common-law partner or a conjugal partner of a person if the marriage, common-law partnership or conjugal partnership

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) is not genuine.

4. (2) A foreign national shall not be considered an adopted child of a person if the adoption

(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) did not create a genuine parent-child relationship.

4. (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to adoptions referred to in paragraph 117(1)(g) and subsections 117(2) and (4).

Note that R4(2) applies to the assessment of adoptions which did not conform to the intercountry adoption process, such as domestic adoptions completed in the country of origin, and, therefore, lacked the involvement of provincial adoption authorities.

For greater clarity, within the context of a R4(2) adoption, the term “genuine” is associated with the assessment of the parent-child relationship.

Subsection R117(2) of the Regulations, which deals with the sponsorship of adopted children by citizens or permanent residents of Canada, has also been amended. The addition of subsection (b) now provides for an assessment of the bona fides of the adoption. R117(2) is, therefore, now consistent with R117(1)(g) and R117(4) which also require an assessment of whether the adoption was primarily “for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act”. Hence, there is no need for officers to consider the provisions of R4(2) within the context of a sponsored application for a permanent resident visa for an adopted child which is being processed under section R117 of the Regulations.

The amended Subsection R117(2) is as follows:

R117(2) A foreign national who is the adopted child of a sponsor and whose adoption took place when the child was under the age of 18 shall not be considered a member of the family class by virtue of the adoption unless

(a) the adoption was in the best interests of the child within the meaning of the Hague Convention on Adoption; and
(b) the adoption was not entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Implications
Assessing the bona fides of spousal, common-law or conjugal relationships

These changes will enable CIC and CBSA to deal more effectively with marriages of convenience, an ongoing issue of concern. They will allow officers to determine that a spousal, common-law or conjugal relationship is not bona fide if it is either not genuine or was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring a status or privilege under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Henceforth, only one of the two criteria will need to be present to determine that a relationship is not bona fide.
Assessing adoptions under R4(2)

With respect to accompanying children who have been adopted or children whose adoptions may not be processed under R117, the adoption may henceforth be determined to be a relationship of convenience or entered into in “bad faith” if it was either entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act or does not create a genuine parent-child relationship.
Assessing adoptions under R117(2)

The addition of subsection R117(2)(b) to the Regulations clarifies that the adoption of a sponsored child under the age of 18 cannot be undertaken primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act.
Hearings before the IAD

Since a hearing before the IAD is de novo,as opposed to a judicial review of a decision, the IAD will base its decisions on the law that is presently in force at the time of the hearing and not the law that was in force at the time of the original decision by the officer.

Further information

The following operational manuals will be updated:

IP 5 – Section 12.3
IP 8 – Sections 5.19, and 5.25
OP 2 – Section 5.16, 12, 12.1, 12.2
OP 3 – Section 5.8, 5.9, 7.8
OP 6 – Section 6.4
OP 25 – Section 6.2

OMG! I hope this wont cause delay of our applications lalo na ung mga in process palang na katulad ko.

Let's pray for the best!
 

rhizzav

Star Member
Jul 17, 2010
125
2
philippines
Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
june 23
Med's Done....
dec 29 2010
Passport Req..
june 2010
VISA ISSUED...
AUG 04 2010
LANDED..........
OCT 05 2010
seyshane said:
@ Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, :),,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana ;)
im so happy for you ;D mgkasunod lng tyo ng flight kung sakali ;D anong airlines mo?
 

mahalko29

Star Member
Sep 8, 2010
53
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2010
AOR Received.
14/07/2010
Passport Req..
14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...
02/09/2010
seyshane said:
@ Mahalko29 =) hopefully nextweek Oct 7,, :),,,d na daw makapag antay ang mister ko,,hehe..
Sa Alberta (Lethbridge) po kami,,,how about you? Tgal pa pla ng stay mo dito sa Pinas, importante may VISA kana ;)
tama ka seyshane what important is that i have my visa now ;)
sigurado na ko... sarap ng feeling noh? hanggang ngayon di ko maexplain yung saya na nararamdaman ko!
malapit ka ng umalis Smiley have a happy and safe trip :D
bound to Winnipeg Manitoba po ako :)
 

seyshane

Star Member
Aug 26, 2010
72
0
thanks mahalko29 and rhizzav...Uii 2 days to go alis na si Rhizzav, ako magpapabook palang po tomorow, wala kasing office ngayong weekend :(...
Meron naman ako nahanap flight oct 6, kaso mahal naman :'(
 
Oct 3, 2010
2
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ask ko lang..i was nomninated from saskatchewan...the i will apply for permanent residence in manila..my question is under skilled worker ba ko or family class??kc sa skill worker nakalagay dun may provincial nominee..sa family class wala..am soo confused..thanks
 

jeans22

Hero Member
Apr 21, 2010
258
6
Category........
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Manila
Job Offer........
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kolehiyala_blues said:
ask ko lang..i was nomninated from saskatchewan...the i will apply for permanent residence in manila..my question is under skilled worker ba ko or family class??kc sa skill worker nakalagay dun may provincial nominee..sa family class wala..am soo confused..thanks
If no family member (ie husband, parents, sibling) is sponsoring you from Canada, then you must be under the Provincial Nominee Program. Yes this process is also considered as an application for Permanent Residence but not under the Family Class. Check this link out for more info -

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/provincial/index.asp

Good Luck!!
 

mahalko29

Star Member
Sep 8, 2010
53
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Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2010
AOR Received.
14/07/2010
Passport Req..
14/07/2010
VISA ISSUED...
02/09/2010
seyshane said:
thanks mahalko29 and rhizzav...Uii 2 days to go alis na si Rhizzav, ako magpapabook palang po tomorow, wala kasing office ngayong weekend :(...
Meron naman ako nahanap flight oct 6, kaso mahal naman :'(
nakaattend ka na ba ng PDOS or GCP seyshane? ikaw din malapit na yung flight... naku medyo jealous ako kasi makakasam nyo na mga hubby nyo.... ako nakabook na may promo yung agency na napuntahan ko sa mga first time emigrant may promo sila mura ko lang nakuha po P25,300 including the taxes manila-vancouver PAL kasi magmeet up kami ni hubby sa vancouver so ganong flight lang kinuha ko pero yung manila-vancouver-winnipeg P38,300 so mura pa rin yan, diba? magtingin kayo online usually daw sa mga firts time emigrant may mga promo ang airlines...
 

Michi08

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Sep 1, 2010
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Hi! para po dun sa nagpamedical na, ilan days po ba bago makuha ang copy 2? Thank you in advance! Smiley
 

embopj

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Aug 6, 2010
232
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Interview........
November 2010 Approve
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010
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February 2011 - snow storm
Michi08 said:
Hi! para po dun sa nagpamedical na, ilan days po ba bago makuha ang copy 2? Thank you in advance! Smiley
I believed its 10 working days from the time nga pa medical exam ka or 2 weeks, cnat remeber kung walang problema, pero kung may problema they will call you for recheck again. then they will give you a medical report na ipapasa sa embassy.
 

plussixthree

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Sep 27, 2010
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Hi. Bago lang po ako dito sa thread. Dependent Child po ako. May dumating na letter sakin galing sa Visa Office na nagre-request ng passport ko. Tanong ko lang po kung pwede ko ba dalhin personally sa Visa Office yung passport ko? Kasi nagaalangan yung papa ko na baka mawala daw kapag ipinadala ko via post office o courier. Pwede po ba yun? Tsaka gano kaya katagal bago bumalik yung passport ko? Maraming salamat! ;D