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Spousal sponsorship

Shaymiggy

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Feb 26, 2018
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Night everyone...I'm new to this forum, but does anyone know if it's normal that the KVO asks for a prepaid courier coupon to be sent in rather than having the person just go in to pick up their documents?
 

AryaStark

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Jul 31, 2017
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Hi Guys...

Sorry to interrupt this thread, but need some expert advise.

I am from India and my husband has got his PR and is in Canada. He will be starting the spousal sponsorship process soon. From the document checklist, I got to know that it's mandatory to provide Birth Certificate. H/ever, the place of birth in my Birth Certificate shows the Village name, along with District and State in separate line. But the place of birth in my passport shows ONLY the name of the District and State.
Will this cause any problem? Would it be sufficient if I add an LOE just to explain it to CIC folks.

Pls let me know how to go about it.


Thanks!
 

Mohamed123

Star Member
Feb 27, 2018
50
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So you are in the situation that you want to sponsor your foreign spouse for permanent residency of Canada and don't know where to start. Here are some tips:

Married, common law or conjugal partners

First you need to pick an application class. There are three of them: married, common-law and conjugal. For all of them, you need to prove the genuineity of your relationship. For common-law, you need to prove that you have lived together for 12 months or longer. For conjugal, you need to prove that you have combined your affairs as much as possible but there are real immigration barriers or other barriers preventing you from living together or getting married. Conjugal is the hardest to prove. For example, if your partner could get a visit visa to come to Canada for 6 months and then apply for an extension to get the full year, even though they will not be allowed to work, that is not considered an immigration barrier. An immigration barrier is if your partner tries to get a visit visa to come to Canada and is repeatedly refused. Some people have had luck with the conjugal class but try to avoid it if possible.

Outland or inland?

Now you need to decide if to apply outland or inland. If your spouse is not in Canada and can not get a visa to go to Canada, you must apply outland. That means that you will send your application to Mississauga and they will approve you as a sponsor. The time that takes is usually 1-2 months to but current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship After that, the application is forwarded to your local visa office. If your spouse is residing in a country other than the country of their nationality, you can pick which of the two visa offices you want. Otherwise it will be processed in their country of nationality. You can see the processing times here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp

If your spouse is staying in Canada as a visitor or on some other visa, you can pick whether you want to apply outland or inland. Outland is generally faster and has appeal rights but a downside to outland is that if an interview is required, your spouse will have to travel to the visa office in the country where it's being processed. Inland has the downside that it's generally not advised that your spouse travels while you are waiting for your processing because it is a requirement of inland that they reside in Canada and if they are denied entry at the border for some reason, your application is gone. If an interview is required for inland, you may also have to wait a long time for it. The inland application would be sent to Vegreville and if all goes well, you would get a first stage approval, usually in 6 to 8 months. The current processing times can be seen here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#perm_res Then the file is forwarded to your local CIC office where you live and they will contact you for a landing appointment. Getting the PR with inland usually takes 12-18 months. If an interview is required for inland, Vegreville will not give first stage approval but instead will forward the application to the local CIC office without it and you will have to wait for them to have time for your interview. In some cases that can take a year or two. If you do get the first stage approval, your spouse will usually be eligible for health care and an open work permit. It is actually a good idea when applying inland to send an application form for a visit visa extension as well as the open work permit to be given at first stage approval all in one package so it's tied together.

Which method to pick depends on your situation. If your spouses country of nationality has a long processing time or your spouse does not want to have to travel there for a possible interview, then inland is the way to go. For faster processing and freedom of travel during the processing time, outland would be better. You can find the application forms for inland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/spouse.asp and the application forms for outland at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Avoiding potential problems with your application

The most common reason for people to be called for an interview is that the visa officer has doubts about the relationship being genuine. It is up to you to send immigration some quality data, emails, chat logs, phone records, photos, letters and other material to prove to them that your relationship is the real thing. Other reasons you might have problems with is eligibility of the sponsor. The sponsor can not be on social assistance, can not be bankrupt and can not have a record of violent crimes or crimes against family members. If that is the case, better talk to a lawyer and get that cleared up before attempting to apply.

Dependent children

If your spouse has dependent children, they must be included in the PR application, even if they are not coming to Canada. They will need to have medicals as well to keep the option open to sponsor them later. The only way that immigration will accept the application without those medicals is if the children are no longer minors and refuse to have it or if the children are in the full custody of their other parent who refuses to make them available for medicals. In that case, your spouse needs to sign a statement stating that they know that they will never be able to sponsor these children to Canada in the future.

Dependent children are classified as single and either under 22 years of age or if they are older, they must have been full time students since before age 22 or dependent on their parent due to a disability or medical problem.

Refusals due to income and medicals

You will be asked to provide information about your income but you will not be denied to sponsor your spouse and dependent children because you do not make enough money. It is possible though that if you make absolutely no money at all that immigration may ask you how you plan to support yourselves.

Spouses and dependent children are also exempt from the clause about excessive demand on health care so you do not have to worry about them being refused for that reason.

Sponsoring your spouse while living in another country

If you are a Canadian citizen, you can sponsor your spouse without being in Canada but you do then have to prove that you are planning on moving to Canada when your spouse gets approved for permanent residency. Such proof can include having arranged jobs, being accepted to college, having arranged housing or letters from friends & relatives stating that they know of your plans and that you can stay with them while you look for housing etc.

If you are a PR, you must reside in Canada in order to sponsor your spouse. You can chance short vacations (remember that a Canadian vacation is generally no longer than 2 weeks) but if immigration finds out that you are not in Canada, you risk getting your application refused.



Just a question, i have a PR living abroad with my wife who is a canadian citizen. What will happen if i stay abroad for say 5 years until my PR expires. Will they renew it for me or do i have to live in canada for the 2 out of 5 rule in order to get my PR renewed. Thnx
 

Bs65

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Mar 22, 2016
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Just a question, i have a PR living abroad with my wife who is a canadian citizen. What will happen if i stay abroad for say 5 years until my PR expires. Will they renew it for me or do i have to live in canada for the 2 out of 5 rule in order to get my PR renewed. Thnx
PR status never expires it can only be revoked or renounced, only PR cards expire.

There are many posts on this forum covering your situation in that accompanying a citizen abroad you still maintain your PR status but are advised to keep as much proof as possible for when it comes to eventually renewing your PR card on your return

There is no auto process to renew PR cards and if I recall but others can correct me you would still need to be in Canada to apply for a new card so would need a PRTD with supporting status proof in order to fly back at some point.

Keep in mind that even though PR status is protected whilst accompanying a citizen the time out of the country does not count towards the physical presence for citizenship applications.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=4
 
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Mohamed123

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Feb 27, 2018
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PR status never expires it can only be revoked or renounced, only PR cards expire.

There are many posts on this forum covering your situation in that accompanying a citizen abroad you still maintain your PR status but are advised to keep as much proof as possible for when it comes to eventually renewing your PR card on your return

There is no auto process to renew PR cards and if I recall but others can correct me you would still need to be in Canada to apply for a new card so would need a PRTD with supporting status proof in order to fly back at some point.

Keep in mind that even though PR status is protected whilst accompanying a citizen the time out of the country does not count towards the physical presence for citizenship applications.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=4
thnx for the info bro!
 

Missnana

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Feb 26, 2018
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So I sent my application on November got my acknowledgment letter on jan 26th then on feb 2nd - police certificate and schedule A, my husband already did his medical through immigration so what would be the next step since they won’t be needing his medical
 

D-Mac

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Mar 4, 2013
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Hello All,


I have obtained a police certificate from my home country, which is ready to be submitted.


However, I have been living in Canada for the last few years (and made my application inland). I don’t require a Canadian police check, do I?
 

kkagill

Newbie
Feb 26, 2018
2
0
Hi guys, I've submitted Schedule A a couple weeks ago via email (validated the form, signed my signature and scanned), and yesterday I received a new email from CIC stating that I need to send three more additional documents (Schedule A, Police Certificate, Military Records). Not too sure why they requested me to send Schedule A again, but this time the form they linked seems outdated. A couple weeks ago, I used the most recent one from their website to submit. So here are my questions.

1. What's the purpose of asking me to resubmit Schedule A with an outdated form? Can I reuse and resubmit the one I submitted before?

2. Regarding the police certificate, a police certifiate is required from the country in which you have spent the majority of your adult life (since the age of 18), I've spent the majority of my adult life in Canada than in South Korea. So I went to RCMP to obtain it today, but they refused saying that I don't need to submit the one from Canada and instead I can submit the one I got it from South Korea. Is this true?

3. Regarding the military records, A certified copy of Military records, CIC attached this as well. Do I also need to get a certified copy of military records from South Korea? I've never heard of this before so I am a bit confused.

4. Seems like CIC wants me to submit all these via online, Please send the requested information / document(s) and all future inquiries with respect to your application via the Case Specific Enquiry form at the following link: https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/canada-case-cas-eng.aspx, but in the email, CIC also mentions that I need to submit forms via mail - this must be received at this office by: 2018/03/26. Does this mean I have to submit them via both online and mail? and they didn't mention where to send it as well.

Sorry to bother, but help is appreciated.

FYI, email from CIC: https://i.imgur.com/2Xiw2Dl.png, https://i.imgur.com/amFYEHC.png
 

ojofar

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Dec 20, 2016
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Hi my wife got her passport requested today. (bangladesh)
They want her to go to VFSGlobal to submit her passport.

VFSGlobal wants :
  • The passport request letter you received from IRCC - Have
  • ICR ( Invoce-Cum-Receipt) ?
  • Any applicable visa application centre (VAC) fees, such as passport transmission fees, courier fees etc.
  • Your contact information, including your email, phone number and return address
  • The VAC consent forms”?

what is ICR, VAC consent form?
does my wife just go into VFSGobal and they will help her submitting the passport?
 

MrNiki

Newbie
Nov 15, 2017
3
0
Hi! My wife (Canadian) is trying to sponsor me (Polish) as her spouse. We've hit a roadblock in our process and need some guidance. We've tried calling the IRCC 1-888 number, but the phones are always tied up. We sent an email, but they are so slow and this is time sensitive. My extended visitor status expires April 20th. We applied for inland sponsorship as me leaving would be very disruptive for us.
We sent our application in mid/late December, after we got our marriage license back from Service Ontario after we got married in October. Our application was rejected and we received it about a week ago because my birth certificate was not translated from Polish (which was our mistake, we'll get that back from the translator in a few days) and my wife's proof of source of income was not valid.
She is the sole proprietor of a small business and 2017 was the first year of operation. She was not employed otherwise in 2017. So that said, she does not have any previous tax documentation proving her income. She makes enough money to support us, and she wrote a letter explaining this, that it was her first year, how much she made and how much she expects to make in 2018. She also provided her Master Business License.
Our question: What more can we do? Does anyone has any resources for writing a stronger letter, like a template? Would including copies of letters from the CRA when she opened her tax and payrolls accounts make a difference? Bank statements?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
 

nik 2018

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Mar 1, 2018
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hello everybody im new to this site . didnt know how to start a new conversation . i had a few questions regarding the inland spouse sponsorship .
Im residing in Canada under study permit . I got married in January to a Permanent Resident of Canada . Now i am planning to fill in application for spousal sponsorship . Do i need to continue my classes in order to maintain my student status ( however its too costly so i discontinued it for the time being ) ? or do i need to apply for my visitor visa ? . my study visa expires in jan 2019 .
and even if i apply for my visitor visa along with my PR application if im not studying , Is my stay still legal because i do have study visa till jan 2019
 

christina88

Star Member
Sep 13, 2017
109
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Hi my wife got her passport requested today. (bangladesh)
They want her to go to VFSGlobal to submit her passport.

VFSGlobal wants :
  • The passport request letter you received from IRCC - Have
  • ICR ( Invoce-Cum-Receipt) ?
  • Any applicable visa application centre (VAC) fees, such as passport transmission fees, courier fees etc.
  • Your contact information, including your email, phone number and return address
  • The VAC consent forms”?

what is ICR, VAC consent form?
does my wife just go into VFSGobal and they will help her submitting the passport?
ICR, VAC consent form can be found on the VFSGobal website, should be printed, filled in.
 

christina88

Star Member
Sep 13, 2017
109
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Hi! My wife (Canadian) is trying to sponsor me (Polish) as her spouse. We've hit a roadblock in our process and need some guidance. We've tried calling the IRCC 1-888 number, but the phones are always tied up. We sent an email, but they are so slow and this is time sensitive. My extended visitor status expires April 20th. We applied for inland sponsorship as me leaving would be very disruptive for us.
We sent our application in mid/late December, after we got our marriage license back from Service Ontario after we got married in October. Our application was rejected and we received it about a week ago because my birth certificate was not translated from Polish (which was our mistake, we'll get that back from the translator in a few days) and my wife's proof of source of income was not valid.
She is the sole proprietor of a small business and 2017 was the first year of operation. She was not employed otherwise in 2017. So that said, she does not have any previous tax documentation proving her income. She makes enough money to support us, and she wrote a letter explaining this, that it was her first year, how much she made and how much she expects to make in 2018. She also provided her Master Business License.
Our question: What more can we do? Does anyone has any resources for writing a stronger letter, like a template? Would including copies of letters from the CRA when she opened her tax and payrolls accounts make a difference? Bank statements?
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
Just fix the issues they pointed at. The more papers you get as supportive ones, the better.
 

maicha

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Feb 26, 2013
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Passport Req..
01-06-2018
I am holding an open work permit and currently living and working here in canada and my soon to be wife will apply for spousal sponsoring me and she is a PR. We are going to process our application by ourselves and we need your help on this matter. please and thank you.

under the form APPLICATION TO CHANGE CONDITIONS, EXTEND MY STAY IN CANADA IMM5710
Which box i am going to tick to apply for open work permit?
box 1. A work permit with same employer
box 2. Restoration of your status as a worker
box 3.An initial work permit or work permit with a new employer
box 4. Temporary resident permit
 

AG01045

Newbie
Mar 2, 2018
7
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GUYS, I have a technical question, I came to Canada as an international student in 2015, now on a PGWP that expires this August, My Canadian wife applied to sponsor me, application received on Dec 2017, Police certificate and Schedule forms uploaded, my application now is in process, the question now is, if I did not reach a DM by August, does that put me on implied status until I get a decision on the PR application?
or should I apply for an extension of my PGWP, because I am entitled for it as I already confirmed that with CIC call centre, I can always call them just don't want to be put on hold for 50 min. If someone has a similar situation please share your experience. I am currently in a time race, and I am lost, should I apply now, or wait, I feel I am loosing time here.
 
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