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Sponsoring undeclared child

MilesAway

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Short answer: No. You cannot. Any child not declared and examined at the time of your application, and up to your receiving permanent resident status is deemed to not be a member of the family class. When you landed, they asked you to confirm that everything was correct, that you don't have any dependents, etc, and you said yes.
 

adanac21

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MilesAway said:
Short answer: No. You cannot. Any child not declared and examined at the time of your application, and up to your receiving permanent resident status is deemed to not be a member of the family class. When you landed, they asked you to confirm that everything was correct, that you don't have any dependents, etc, and you said yes.


But my wife can I sponsor her? We got married a year after I got here In Canada. I went back to marry her. Can I sponsor her?
 

MilesAway

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Did you live with your wife before you came to Canada? If you lived together for 12 months, and you did not declare her and have her examined, then no. If you did not live together, and weren't married at the time, then it should be okay (not knowing the full situation, it's difficult to say exactly.)
 

adanac21

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MilesAway said:
Did you live with your wife before you came to Canada? If you lived together for 12 months, and you did not declare her and have her examined, then no. If you did not live together, and weren't married at the time, then it should be okay (not knowing the full situation, it's difficult to say exactly.)
No we did not lived together. But we had a baby then my family and I moved here in Canada. We were not married back then that's why I didn't declared my son. Then I went back to marry her and I want to sponsor them here. What options so we have?
 

MilesAway

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I believe you are able to sponsor your wife, but your child cannot be sponsored ever.
 

MilesAway

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I don't believe so. People have tried that and been denied. The law is very clear on that. You declared that you did not have a son, and now you suddenly have a son.

The only option would be for your wife to apply to immigrate independently (skilled worker, PNP programs) and include your son as her dependent.

It's unfortunate, but it's the choice you made when you landed and declared that you had no dependents. Now you must deal with that.
 

adanac21

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MilesAway said:
I don't believe so. People have tried that and been denied. The law is very clear on that. You declared that you did not have a son, and now you suddenly have a son.

The only option would be for your wife to apply to immigrate independently (skilled worker, PNP programs) and include your son as her dependent.

It's unfortunate, but it's the choice you made when you landed and declared that you had no dependents. Now you must deal with that.

If she applied in any of that programs, can they not track my name on her papers? CAn she get our son? How about relinquishing my pr card, and move back in our country and then we apply for provincial nominee as a family. Would that be good?
 

MilesAway

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From my understanding, if you applies independently, it is not family class, and therefore she can include your son. Of course, she needs to declare that you are her spouse. If she doesn't, then she's also committing misrepresentation, and that is a big problem. It could be a problem for you, because you lied on your application. CIC does not like lies.

As for giving up your PR card, I'm not certain how that works, and if it would work in your case. I'll defer to others in that regard.
 

adanac21

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MilesAway said:
From my understanding, if you applies independently, it is not family class, and therefore she can include your son. Of course, she needs to declare that you are her spouse. If she doesn't, then she's also committing misrepresentation, and that is a big problem. It could be a problem for you, because you lied on your application. CIC does not like lies.

As for giving up your PR card, I'm not certain how that works, and if it would work in your case. I'll defer to others in that regard.



What program is best for her to apply to? And how long can she get our son? Can she not be denied? What if cic can trace my misrepresented record? Can we get deported?
 

MilesAway

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Only CIC knows what they will do. But given they don't do much to deport obvious frauds, I'm not certain they would actively pursue and deport you, but I suppose it is possible.

Look at the CIC site and find out if she qualifies for any program. I don't know what is best for her, or how long it will take.
 

leenvi

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Hi guys. We’re having a concern since our son was undeclared by my husband. Our expectation is that our application might got refuse due to misrepresentation.
But we just received our GCMS note, stating this on our initial review:

Dependent (name of our son) was not declared. However, as the Principal Applicant is not an excluded family member and Dependent is not being sponsored themselves as members of the family class but rather as an accompanying dependent of a member of the family class, the Dependent is not inadmissible under R117(9)(d). Eligibility passed.”

Guys, what are your thoughts/understandings about this? Thank you in advance.
 

kannan24

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Hi guys. We’re having a concern since our son was undeclared by my husband. Our expectation is that our application might got refuse due to misrepresentation.
But we just received our GCMS note, stating this on our initial review:

Dependent (name of our son) was not declared. However, as the Principal Applicant is not an excluded family member and Dependent is not being sponsored themselves as members of the family class but rather as an accompanying dependent of a member of the family class, the Dependent is not inadmissible under R117(9)(d). Eligibility passed.”

Guys, what are your thoughts/understandings about this? Thank you in advance.
if you emailed to CPC ottawa about ur child before landing then there is a chance of getting PR for your child.
 

leenvi

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03-22-2017
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Pending
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04-11-2017
Med's Done....
21-04-2017
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
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VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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if you emailed to CPC ottawa about ur child before landing then there is a chance of getting PR for your child.
He still didn’t declared even on his landing interview.