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Ray of Hope - 79th Draw

Jojolet

Star Member
Apr 29, 2016
177
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Hope and illusion are 2 different thing. And also hope is not supposed to turn into passivity.

Go for the real statistics from the last year and it will be against you. More that 3 million people do want to immigrate to Canada. And only app. 94k will pass through EE (not all PNP use EE) - that is app. 47k of successful application (when average family is app 2 people per application). Add total waste rate app. 30% (ITA that will not end up in approved application) and you will get the picture. And that picture shows that applications for this year got overheated (they invited too many people early this year). The average amount of 24-25 ITA is indeed 2800-2900 per draw, which shows plenty of candidates with CRS of 430+.
.So unless the system will change (amount of points received, size of the average family or the total waste rate), your thinking is an illusion and a fairy tale.

In a way it is actually rather sneaky strategy to put others in illusion and let them sit and do nothing while one works on his own score (less proactive people means lower competition).

I do not intend to help bench warmers who decided to do so. What is needed here are people who will work for their goals.

You know what, best way to stay away from Canada and Northern America as such. You know, too much competition, too many shattered dreams. Life is too hard here to live it in passivity.
It looks to me you just simply love to read your own write ups. With your so much efforts into improving your CRS score I would have assumed by now you would be carrying the Canadian passport not even PR. You need to go and learn how to put a bit of human face to your rather harsh bluntness. No wonder you have posted so much and people usually gets irritated by your posts as evidenced in your number of likes. I wish there was a dislike option you would have being able to have a clearer view of yourself.

Relax pls and give some hope. It hurts no one. By the way I am at 414 and in your very presence I will get my ITA. I don't intend to learn French don't have the time
 

cfg2894

Member
Jul 5, 2017
14
12
Hey guys,

Ive been in the pool since August with 428 points. My profile says that i qualify both for the Canadian Experience Class and Federal Skilled Worker. My question is: can i apply for whichever program i want to? Or does CIC pick for me when I get an ITA? I would obviously prefer applying for the canadian experience class since it requires less documents (dont need to show proof of funds). Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
 

Samroze

Hero Member
Aug 12, 2017
214
636
Most Common Reasons for Rejection
Most common is PCC:
a. Not included
b. No Coloured Scan attached
c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)
d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)
e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted
f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.
g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.
h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.
Medical Reports:
a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.
b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.
c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.
d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}
Conversion of Files:
a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you
b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).
c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)
d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.
Passport and Visa Status:
a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.
b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.
Education:
a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number
b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.
c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.
Experience:
a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.
b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.
c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.
d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.
These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.
Applicable sections :
Section R10 - an applicant that makes but even one mistake in the uploading of his/her forms or documents can have their case rejected under Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (R10).
R10 imposes absolute strict liability on the applicant and the onus is on the applicant to submit a complete application with correct documents.
Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) includes a new authority that supports the Express Entry system.
Under section A11.2, an officer may not issue a visa to an applicant who did not or does not meet the Express Entry minimum entry criteria (MEC) or did not or does not possess the qualifications for which they received their CRS score at the time when
the invitation to apply (ITA) was issued; or
the e-APR was received by IRCC.
When reviewing an application, processing offices must determine if
the applicant possesses the qualifications that they declared in their e-APR, as corroborated by the applicant’s supporting documentation; and
when the applicant submits their e-APR, the information provided in their Express Entry profile has not materially changed to the degree that the applicant would not have been issued an ITA in that round of invitations.
Accordingly, officers should refuse an application under section A11.2 if it is determined that
at the time of the ITA or e-APR, the applicant did not or does not meet the MEC, which includes the requirements of the program to which they were invited to apply; or
the applicant’s recalculated CRS score has fallen below that of the lowest-ranked candidate invited to apply in that round of invitations.

All the best guys who are preparing their docs after ITA
Please go through the above and do Not leave any question unanswered to cic. Please be very careful while filling the personal as well as address history. Don't leave any gaps and explain the situation if there are any gaps. For ex..stufent from so and so date till so and so..then looking for a job...in the period before you start working.. keep a record of everything you've entered. Incase you are asked adr for any forms then the info you entered should be matching exactly.

While uploading PDF name them properly so that you don't get confused. For ex. Name.pcc; name.medical; name.passport as you have to upload for all family members.

All the best..
 
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Natraj

Member
Jun 27, 2017
11
14
Most Common Reasons for Rejection
Most common is PCC:
a. Not included
b. No Coloured Scan attached
c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)
d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)
e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted
f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.
g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.
h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.
Medical Reports:
a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.
b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.
c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.
d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}
Conversion of Files:
a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you
b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).
c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)
d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.
Passport and Visa Status:
a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.
b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.
Education:
a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number
b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.
c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.
Experience:
a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.
b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.
c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.
d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.
These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.
Applicable sections :
Section R10 - an applicant that makes but even one mistake in the uploading of his/her forms or documents can have their case rejected under Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (R10).
R10 imposes absolute strict liability on the applicant and the onus is on the applicant to submit a complete application with correct documents.
Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) includes a new authority that supports the Express Entry system.
Under section A11.2, an officer may not issue a visa to an applicant who did not or does not meet the Express Entry minimum entry criteria (MEC) or did not or does not possess the qualifications for which they received their CRS score at the time when
the invitation to apply (ITA) was issued; or
the e-APR was received by IRCC.
When reviewing an application, processing offices must determine if
the applicant possesses the qualifications that they declared in their e-APR, as corroborated by the applicant’s supporting documentation; and
when the applicant submits their e-APR, the information provided in their Express Entry profile has not materially changed to the degree that the applicant would not have been issued an ITA in that round of invitations.
Accordingly, officers should refuse an application under section A11.2 if it is determined that
at the time of the ITA or e-APR, the applicant did not or does not meet the MEC, which includes the requirements of the program to which they were invited to apply; or
the applicant’s recalculated CRS score has fallen below that of the lowest-ranked candidate invited to apply in that round of invitations.
How about if there was a refusal for student permit earlier.
 

vimalind

Hero Member
Aug 2, 2012
528
13
Job Offer........
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How about if there was a refusal for student permit earlier.
Yes you should mention that if there's any kind of refusal before of any kinda of visa. will not impact of your application anyway, but if u r not mentioning it then if they come to know it will impact
 
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Natraj

Member
Jun 27, 2017
11
14
Yes you should mention that if there's any kind of refusal before of any kinda of visa. will not impact of your application anyway, but if u r not mentioning it then if they come to know it will impact
Thank you. Have never concealed any information. It’s better a rejection than cheating.