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Qorax::: Seniors pls help on Prejune CAIPS- BFD - ECU

yeswecandoit

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Mar 9, 2012
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Results of many Caips report of Pre June Applicant .
========================================
My PSDEC & SELDEC is 1.
BF'D is on XX May 2012.

Points calculated are >67 ( varies on application some 70/69/72 etc )

And requested to ECU to request the following
PPTs
MEDs
RPRF
==========================================

Questions :-

1. Such BFD is for ECU for sending Medicals ? // ECU sends Medicals on BFD date ?
2. Any other CAIPS ( other than pre june ) works same as above .
3. Majority Prejune NDVO application are Inprocess with date - Medicals are awaited since last 3 Months // reason for delay / visa quota etc..
 

NavneetK

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I also want to understand the same thing........please help.........


yeswecandoit said:
Results of many Caips report of Pre June Applicant .
========================================
My PSDEC & SELDEC is 1.
BF'D is on XX May 2012.

Points calculated are >67 ( varies on application some 70/69/72 etc )

And requested to ECU to request the following
PPTs
MEDs
RPRF
==========================================

Questions :-

1. Such BFD is for ECU for sending Medicals ? // ECU sends Medicals on BFD date ?
2. Any other CAIPS ( other than pre june ) works same as above .
3. Majority Prejune NDVO application are Inprocess with date - Medicals are awaited since last 3 Months // reason for delay / visa quota etc..
 

jaggy999

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The only thing that I know from above as per ur PSDEC & SELDEC is 1 means u hve passed , if it was 4 it would have meant u failed.

As per ur others queries only qorax or other senior members can help...
 

skogutem

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AOR Received.
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IELTS Request
Submitted with all doc
Med's Request
June 2014
Med's Done....
Sep - Oct 2014
medical will come for sure but when we don't know.
 

Ank

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yeswecandoit said:
Results of many Caips report of Pre June Applicant .
========================================
My PSDEC & SELDEC is 1.
BF'D is on XX May 2012.

Points calculated are >67 ( varies on application some 70/69/72 etc )

And requested to ECU to request the following
PPTs
MEDs
RPRF
==========================================

Questions :-

1. Such BFD is for ECU for sending Medicals ? // ECU sends Medicals on BFD date ?
2. Any other CAIPS ( other than pre june ) works same as above .
3. Majority Prejune NDVO application are Inprocess with date - Medicals are awaited since last 3 Months // reason for delay / visa quota etc..

All about BF'D :
-Only for some of us who didn't know...

BF'D is an acronym for "Bring Forward Date" in the Canadian PR processing system. Usually our file moves from BF'D to BF'D, as it is the day/date next earmarked by our VO to check our file. This actually serves to eliminate unnecessary clogging of the system... that if there is nothing further to add in a particular file, the VO moves to another case file to work on, rather than holding onto the same one.

What happens on a BF'D
In simple terms it is the date that the file will be looked at [again], assessed, reviewed by your case handling officer at the CHC. S/he will check if anything is lacking, any further queries to be made [to you], any documents to be asked or if any decisive action is to be made/taken. Basically it serves as a 'Reminder Tool' to the case processing officer & that your file is not 'forgotten'.

Now, if the VO observes that something is lacking [that which was asked for], s/he will probably attempt to contact you on this BF'D day and mark another BF'D on your file. This depends on the subject of check [the all time phrase 'Case-to-Case' basis]. Sometimes, if the check report warrants, the VO might not give you another opportunity and take a decisive action. Note: The situation is fluid & no one can really provide a sanguine comment on it.

Will the file be 'only' looked at a BF'D
No. If something like reports, results, documents etc. [eg. background/security checks] comes to the CHC in between, your file gets opened and assessed. However, if nothing is received in between, you get another BF'D. Note once again: If they are waiting for something and it comes as expected then the file continues to be processed further, if not then the file will be next reviewed on the BFD 'only'.

An Example
Every time we get a letter/email from the CHC -it carries a 'time limit' to submit something, right? Say 45 days, 60 days or 90 days... the ending day of that time limit is our next BF'D. As an example, if the CHC sent you a medical request [alongwith the forms] on 02 Jan 2010; and it carries a 60 day's deadline -it means your file has been marked with the next BF'D of 01 Mar 2010.

However, if your medical results are received before the BF'D [01 Mar 2010], say on 05 Feb 2010 -your file will be further processed on that day itself [05 Feb 2010]. If the med results didn't come by earlier, then it will be opened on 01 Mar 2010 -the BF'D day.

How many BF'Ds we get
Some BF'Ds are 'routine', as exampled above. Then there are some which is either case generated or because of us. By 'case generated' I mean, [eg.] if one's Security Report is pending from an external agency -the VO gives a BF'D & waits. If the report comes in time, action is taken. If it doesn't, one gets another BF'D. And the situation continues...

By 'because of us'* I mean if the VO had asked us for a document [or a couple of them]. It is wise that we proceed to submit the document/s asap. Reason? The case moves faster [read: it'll open before the BF'D]. If we don't, s/he may try to contact us on the BF'D day & log another BF'D on our file [result: Delay/s].

Delays due to BF'Ds
As stated above, except the 'routine' ones, other BF'Ds do delay our process. At the least [best scenario] each BF'D would be a month apart. Some might be more. The ideal action on our part is to submit anything that has been asked for asap. That would negate a BF'D. However, there can be times that something we just might not be able to send asap. In that case we 'must' send it by the 'deadline' -that'd avoid another BF'D, won't it?

*Many Consultants [so called agents] erroneously advise us otherwise. Stating, "Oh you got the meds, don't worry you have time till 60 days to do it". That's a 'bull'. I'd advise -do it asap, if the speed of your case process matters to you.

This post I chose to write 'coz many members are either clueless about the BF'D issue or take it lightly. Which, albeit causes delays [without our actual intention]. Moreover, there are repeated queries on the subject in various threads. I hope this helped...
Qorax


this is the info share by qorax
 

qorax

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yeswecandoit said:
Results of many Caips report of Pre June Applicant .
========================================
My PSDEC & SELDEC is 1.
BF'D is on XX May 2012.

Points calculated are >67 ( varies on application some 70/69/72 etc )

And requested to ECU to request the following
PPTs
MEDs
RPRF
==========================================

Questions :-

1. Such BFD is for ECU for sending Medicals ? // ECU sends Medicals on BFD date ?
2. Any other CAIPS ( other than pre june ) works same as above .
3. Majority Prejune NDVO application are Inprocess with date - Medicals are awaited since last 3 Months // reason for delay / visa quota etc..
Sorry to be spoil sport, that's just a BFD... it might not elicit anything. Economic Commerce Unit is just a section which checks all paperworks r correct or otherwise... it doesn't specifically deal with meds.

Qorax
 

dreaming_yyz

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Doc's Request.
07-07-2010
AOR Received.
1st AOR 07-07-2010 - 2nd AOR 19-08-2010
IELTS Request
With the documents
File Transfer...
14-07-2010
Med's Request
08-11-2012
Med's Done....
27-11-2012
Interview........
Hopefully waived
Passport Req..
08-11-2012 (Passports sent on 04-12-2012) Received request for POF on 4-2-2012 Submitted POF on 15-2-2013, Received request for Saudi PCC on 2-4-2013
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Very useful thread
 

OHMYGOD

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File Transfer...
reviewed and started processing in jan 2012
Med's Request
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Med's Done....
soon by grace of god
Interview........
hopefully waived
VISA ISSUED...
soon
LANDED..........
soon
Qorax

Does This Imply that

1) The documents are being verified (Kind of a Background check is In Process)

2) Why is ECU Instructed to ask for X X X docs

3) Is there is Still scope of rejection

4) If Not ECU Then who Issues Medicals

5) Whats The Relevance of BFD in this scenario is Just a reminder date Nothing more


Please Enlighten us


qorax said:
Sorry to be spoil sport, that's just a BFD... it might not elicit anything. Economic Commerce Unit is just a section which checks all paperworks r correct or otherwise... it doesn't specifically deal with meds.

Qorax
 

qorax

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OHMYGOD said:
Qorax

Does This Imply that

1) The documents are being verified (Kind of a Background check is In Process)

2) Why is ECU Instructed to ask for X X X docs

3) Is there is Still scope of rejection

4) If Not ECU Then who Issues Medicals

5) Whats The Relevance of BFD in this scenario is Just a reminder date Nothing more

Please Enlighten us
1. Yes.
2. ECU isn't instructed, it's a misunderstanding, those r pending clearance from ECU.
3. It always is... till we land.
4. PMB-Ottawa.
5. The file would be opened by the IO, to see progress & work on it.

Qorax
 

nano24482

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27/04/2010
Let me give you guys the exact words written on the caips.
There is complete history of our case. right from the time we sent in our app.
the comments on our application buy the CIO office,
than file transfer details,
details of our complete documents etc(2nd AOR).
all our updates-inquiries-mails sent later, date-wise,
than the words written.

Selection Assesment
Age:10
Exp:21 All with same employer
Edu: 22 Dip 3 year
Language: 16 IELTS
Adaptability: 00
=============
Total Points 69

Proof of funds - Satisfied

PA has obtained sufficient points to satisfy me that he/she will be able to become economically established in Canada. I am satisfied that the points awarded to applicant adequately reflect the applicant's ability to settle in Canada

ECU- PLS request the following

Updated proof of funds showing $11, 115 Canadian dollars
PPTs(new)x1
MEDSx1
RPRF x1

CRIM PASSED x1
Indian Police Clearance certificate received for PA
Foreign travel= NIL
Copies of PPT pages reviewed= no concerns
Personal history reviewed= no concerns

After all the caips i,e computerized information there are scanned copies of all our documents and letters(my whole caips report was a 217 pages document)
Than there is a scanned copy of some IMM 5262(10-1998)c form. It seems some kind of register with my file number on it.


The details in it are in tabular format. I am not able to create it here
Refered to, ----------, Initials, Date, PA(A.Classer),Initials, BF(A. rapeller)

Will write details about it later. The date mentioned seems to be all our BF'Ds. Maybe I am wrong.


OHMYGOD said:
Does This Imply that

1) The documents are being verified (Kind of a Background check is In Process).
What exactly goes in background checks? Can anyone specify? Why does it take so much of time

2) Why is ECU Instructed to ask for X X X docs

3) Is there is Still scope of rejection
Till visa is in your hand, there is always a scope of rejection.

4) If Not ECU Then who Issues Medicals

5) Whats The Relevance of BFD in this scenario is Just a reminder date Nothing more
Seems so. I updated my documents due to marriage, and my spouse's name was added(just added), but his education, stay in Canada etc was not evaluated. So it can be implied that they do update caips, but evaluation is done.


Please Enlighten us
 

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nano24482 said:
Let me give you guys the exact words written on the caips.
There is complete history of our case. right from the time we sent in our app.
the comments on our application buy the CIO office,
than file transfer details,
details of our complete documents etc(2nd AOR).
all our updates-inquiries-mails sent later, date-wise,
than the words written.

Selection Assesment
Age:10
Exp:21 All with same employer
Edu: 22 Dip 3 year
Language: 16 IELTS
Adaptability: 00
=============
Total Points 69

Proof of funds - Satisfied

PA has obtained sufficient points to satisfy me that he/she will be able to become economically established in Canada. I am satisfied that the points awarded to applicant adequately reflect the applicant's ability to settle in Canada

ECU- PLS request the following

Updated proof of funds showing $11, 115 Canadian dollars
PPTs(new)x1
MEDSx1
RPRF x1

CRIM PASSED x1
Indian Police Clearance certificate received for PA
Foreign travel= NIL
Copies of PPT pages reviewed= no concerns
Personal history reviewed= no concerns

After all the caips i,e computerized information there are scanned copies of all our documents and letters(my whole caips report was a 217 pages document)
Than there is a scanned copy of some IMM 5262(10-1998)c form. It seems some kind of register with my file number on it.


The details in it are in tabular format. I am not able to create it here
Refered to, ----------, Initials, Date, PA(A.Classer),Initials, BF(A. rapeller)

Will write details about it later. The date mentioned seems to be all our BF'Ds. Maybe I am wrong.

Mine is also same except whole detailed episode of my verification call and it's reason (why they done it)
 

OHMYGOD

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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
IELTS Request
done
File Transfer...
reviewed and started processing in jan 2012
Med's Request
soon by grace of waheguru
Med's Done....
soon by grace of god
Interview........
hopefully waived
VISA ISSUED...
soon
LANDED..........
soon
Thanks for your Spot On reply

This Info Kind of makes be Uncomfortable and somehow feel I am back to square One :mad:



qorax said:
1. Yes.
2. ECU isn't instructed, it's a misunderstanding, those r pending clearance from ECU.
3. It always is... till we land.
4. PMB-Ottawa.
5. The file would be opened by the IO, to see progress & work on it.

Qorax
 

destinationBC

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App. Filed.......
thats history
Doc's Request.
thats history
AOR Received.
thats history
File Transfer...
thats history
Med's Request
thats history
Med's Done....
thats history
Passport Req..
thats history
VISA ISSUED...
got it
LANDED..........
Long Long ago
Sir qorax

I am given to understand that the rejection rate at this stage is pretty Low unless ECU finds a Flaw in the documents

Please advice If i have been Informed wrong



qorax said:
1. Yes.
2. ECU isn't instructed, it's a misunderstanding, those r pending clearance from ECU.
3. It always is... till we land.
4. PMB-Ottawa.
5. The file would be opened by the IO, to see progress & work on it.

Qorax